radiant A.I is still the best in Oblivion.How come since then , every game from Bethesda got worse , and worse ?

[gimlikos84]

When I first time saw Oblivion , and radiant A.I I thought that the future of video games will be mind blowing with the A.I system.After 20 years , I can say that the only game that really have great A.I system in an open world game , is RDR2.Skyrim and Fallout 4 were downgraded with A.I , and fallout 76 no comment ;].

[peppergomez]

Bethesda's radiant AI took an arrow to the knee

[WuffWabbit]

*Cough* Rose-tinted goggles *Cough*

[Daedrius]

Maybe. After I heard "Have you been to the Cloud District?" 5 dozen times I kind of wanted to throw my monitor across the room. haha.. Here's hoping they'll avoid super repetitive dialog.

[-={LG}=-]

Originally posted by Ezeris:

After I heard "Have you been to the Cloud District?" 5 dozen times I kind of wanted to throw my monitor across the room.

"What's the matter? Never seen a strong Nord woman before?"

"Looking for my husband Nazeem? Check the Jarl's backside. That's usually where he stuffs himself these days."

[A. Silvermane]

I loved the mod that gave you a guards ear every time he said, "You have my ear Citizen" Must have had over 1000 of them by the end of my playthrough.

One of the radiant AI features I missed in Skyrim that was in oblivion was being able to clear a room and npc inventory of food, dropping a poison apple on the floor and taking bets on which NPC would pick it up die. In Skyrim food just appeared in their hands and you had to reverse pickpocket poisons into their inventory which had next to no chance of success the more lethal it was.

[ONISAIBOT]

The OP is certainly sugarcoating radiant AI here, but the fact stands that Skyrim's scripted encounter dialogues were about as deep as a puddle the time you entered an area for the 2nd time and that's coming from Oblivion's supposed successor.

[Torgrim]

Radiant AI was simple as copy and pace, nothing spectacular to speak off.

[Richardson]

Oblivion's AI definitely had some advantages, but it also came with...quirks. The fact that each NPC had a tracked Needs made them far more immersive when they'd break schedule to find something to eat. This kind of fell apart when they would *kill* each other because another NPC's inventory was the closest source of food. It was also quite annoying when you needed to talk to someone specific, but they weren't where they should be because of said schedule break. Or, you know, being dead.

A similar situation happened with the STALKER games. The original version of the AI was *really* good. *Too* good in some cases. It wasn't unusual for the player to enter a new area and discover that the intended battlezone had been resolved because the NPC factions actually just went out and won their war rather than waiting for the player to show up and do it for them. The combat AI was also frighteningly effective, with NPCs being able to share medkits and ammo if one ran out, or coordinate throwing grenades to both sides of a player behind cover so they had no where to run. Much of this functionality actually still remains in the games, just disabled through additional coding, and mods exist to restore the functionality.

[gimlikos84]

Originally posted by Torgrim:

Radiant AI was simple as copy and pace, nothing spectacular to speak off.

Maybe yes.At the end you had that feeling , that this world exist.

[Vitchilo]

Hopefully we get a big AAA game soon with all NPCs having voice recognition/AI response included like that Skyrim companion mod. This will be truly game changing.

But I bet a small dev studio does it before... because no way its gonna work on consoles and we wont see next gen consoles until 2028... and even then it might not even be good enough. So PC all the way for next gen gaming. Not just 8K because who really cares about 8K, its worthless... what about real next gen stuff like NPC AIs. Graphics are nice and all but enough about graphics. Time to develop other things to make things better. WIth pathtracing, graphics are at like 90%-95% of real life in real time. You wont get much better graphics in the future than UE5.