Stop using DLSS and other upscaling technology

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DLSS, FSR, and upscaling technology in general is trash technology. I still have no idea how the hell Nvidia and AMD managed to convince so many people who play their games on PC that DLSS and FSR are worth turning on. Dude, if you can't run the latest games without this trash technology turned on, then it's time for you to upgrade your PC. It's ridiculous that PC gamers have come to accept serious visual downgrades like artifacting and ghosting to make their games run slightly better.

Nvidia must absolutely love the fact this garbage technology is being pushed so hard, even by the community, to the point where it became a selling point for their products. Nvidia are actually geniuses. They managed to put FOMO on a garbage feature for their products. "You don't buy an Nvidia video card? You're missing on the great trash that is DLSS". It's hilarious just how many people, especially people who are willing to spend hundreds of dollars on video cards, are deciding their purchase mostly on whether or not a video card has DLSS.

To this very day, I have not seen a single game where DLSS and especially FSR (that is even worse than DLSS) is worth turning on. On COD, the ghosting is hilariously bad with DLSS and the quality is ♥♥♥♥ with FSR on every preset. Even on the flagship games that are constantly used with these technologies, it's noticeably worse and it is NOT worth turning on.

STOP accepting and normalizing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ visual fidelity. YOU'RE. ON. THE. PC. PLATFORM. You came here, because one of the reasons was superior visual quality compared to the alternatives like the PS and Xbox. If you're not getting the desired performance from your PC, either save up for an upgrade or before you upgrade, save up more money to get a higher tier video card.

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So are you farming jester trophies or just flaunting that you don't understand how computers work?

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Originally posted by user:

So are you farming jester trophies or just flaunting that you don't understand how computers work?

No arguments whatsoever.

I accept your concession.

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Originally posted by Blonde:

Originally posted by user:

So are you farming jester trophies or just flaunting that you don't understand how computers work?

No arguments whatsoever.

I accept your concession.

Jester trophies it is then, you could have just said that.

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Originally posted by user:

Originally posted by Blonde:

No arguments whatsoever.

I accept your concession.

Jester trophies it is then, you could have just said that.

I'm open to argue about my post, but you're clearly not. You just came here to say that I'm wrong, but not explain why I'm wrong. You think I give a ♥♥♥♥ about jesters or awards or whatever these things are called? You think this is like Reddit? If I feel like saying something, I'll say it, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about the downvotes or the jesters or whatever.

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Originally posted by Blonde:

Originally posted by user:

Jester trophies it is then, you could have just said that.

I'm open to argue about my post, but you're clearly not. You just came here to say that I'm wrong, but not explain why I'm wrong. You think I give a ♥♥♥♥ about jesters or awards or whatever these things are called? You think this is like Reddit? If I feel like saying something, I'll say it, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about the downvotes or the jesters or whatever.

I don't care if you care. J-j-j-j-jester troooophiies.

[Kotton]

Regarding your criticism of PC gamers accepting visual downgrades, it's essential to remember that PC gaming is a diverse ecosystem with a wide range of hardware configurations. Not everyone can afford to constantly upgrade their systems to keep up with the latest games. DLSS and FSR can be seen as tools to help bridge the performance gap and provide a smoother experience without the need for immediate hardware upgrades.

[Oh Heck]

OP, maybe you should look into how they improved DLSS since 2.0. They made huge improvements on ghosting in 2.3. It's even further improved in 3.0. It is absolutely a viable new technology, and a welcome option for those that opt to use it.

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Originally posted by NoScript:

Regarding your criticism of PC gamers accepting visual downgrades, it's essential to remember that PC gaming is a diverse ecosystem with a wide range of hardware configurations. Not everyone can afford to constantly upgrade their systems to keep up with the latest games. DLSS and FSR can be seen as tools to help bridge the performance gap and provide a smoother experience without the need for immediate hardware upgrades.

This is a valid argument. I don't want to come here and then tell the people who are less fortunate than me to just go ahead and spent a couple of hundred bucks on new components like it's nothing. Though I still do think that this is inherent drawback of this platform and something to always consider. That's not right, but this post was more specifically aimed to those are willing spend hundreds of bucks on their video card, like I said in my post, and still turn on these upscalers. Mid-high end PCs have absolutely no business turning on this crap. My main gripe is that this garbage technology is being pushed as some sort of revolutionary, amazing technology when it's not. It's crap.

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Originally posted by Oh Heck:

OP, maybe you should look into how they improved DLSS since 2.0. They made huge improvements on ghosting in 2.3. It's even further improved in 3.0. It is absolutely a viable new technology, and a welcome option for those that opt to use it.

The newer versions of DLSS are complete garbage. The ghosting is a serious problem. 6 months ago it was completely unusable for me in Hitman 3. Here is a very good post with examples of how terrible it is.. Make no mistake about it, this is still garbage technology and I have still yet to be proved wrong.

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Originally posted by Blonde:

... Make no mistake about it, this is still garbage technology and I have still yet to be proved wrong.

There is a lot of marketing and hype to be sure, but hopefully will get better

[FKA]

And my absolute biggest problem with Nvidia is when it comes to aspects that are crucial to a video card and actually matter like the VRAM and memory bandwidth, they completely cheap out here and cause their fans to be screwed up their ass. This is clearly planned obsolescence. The 3070 was a pretty damn good video card, but screwed over by the clearly insufficient amount of VRAM. Nvidia continues to invest in trash like DLSS, but refuses to properly equip their video cards with a decent amount of VRAM.

[herbstwerk]

Originally posted by Blonde:

To this very day, I have not seen a single game where DLSS and especially FSR (that is even worse than DLSS) is worth turning on.

Cyberpunk 2077. Path Tracing.

~30fps without, 60fps with DLSS at quality settings at 3440*1440.

As much as I do prefer no upscaling, 30fps is far from optimal. And that with a system where throwing more money at the problem wouldn't do much. (specs in profile if you care)

[HeyYou]

Originally posted by Blonde:

And my absolute biggest problem with Nvidia is when it comes to aspects that are crucial to a video card and actually matter like the VRAM and memory bandwidth, they completely cheap out here and cause their fans to be screwed up their ass. This is clearly planned obsolescence. The 3070 was a pretty damn good video card, but screwed over by the clearly insufficient amount of VRAM. Nvidia continues to invest in trash like DLSS, but refuses to properly equip their video cards with a decent amount of VRAM.

Back when the 3070 first came out, 8 Gig WAS 'a decent amount of VRAM'......

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Originally posted by HeyYou:

Originally posted by Blonde:

And my absolute biggest problem with Nvidia is when it comes to aspects that are crucial to a video card and actually matter like the VRAM and memory bandwidth, they completely cheap out here and cause their fans to be screwed up their ass. This is clearly planned obsolescence. The 3070 was a pretty damn good video card, but screwed over by the clearly insufficient amount of VRAM. Nvidia continues to invest in trash like DLSS, but refuses to properly equip their video cards with a decent amount of VRAM.

Back when the 3070 first came out, 8 Gig WAS 'a decent amount of VRAM'......

No, actually it wasn't. Concerns were already being raised back in 2020 about the 8 GB VRAM. For example, DOOM Eternal was already using more than 8 GB of VRAM on the highest settings, causing the 3070 to perform much worse than a 2080 Ti 11 GB VRAM, even though they should've been roughly the same.

[Tomatokek]

trophy hunter.