you guys really preordering this after Fallout 4?

[reggie.ps]

I'm not trusting any suit that tells me it's bug free; especially after Todd Howard claiming FO4 "just works" prior to release, it didn't.

Never preorder!
Even if you're 1000% sure you're gonna buy the game, NEVER PREORDER. The bonuses you get ain't worth the price of getting a stinker at launch.

The last game I preordered was Cyberpunk 2077, to put it in perspective cause we've all been bitten by pre-launch hype. Thought I could trust CDPR with their track record being much better than Bethesda at launch (W3 at launch was nowhere near as ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up as anything Bethesda put out at launch) and look what CP2077 was like at launch.

Just my 2 cents and want to know if there's anyone here that's ignoring the "don't preorder" rule for Starfield and why you're ignoring it for this game; not looking to try convince anyone to cancel their preorders, but why exactly is this a game worth preordering?

[ElectricGFunk.]

Originally posted by reggie.ps:

I'm not trusting any suit that tells me it's bug free; especially after Todd Howard claiming FO4 "just works" prior to release, it didn't.

Never preorder!
Even if you're 1000% sure you're gonna buy the game, NEVER PREORDER. The bonuses you get ain't worth the price of getting a stinker at launch.

The last game I preordered was Cyberpunk 2077, to put it in perspective cause we've all been bitten by pre-launch hype. Thought I could trust CDPR with their track record being much better than Bethesda at launch (W3 at launch was nowhere near as ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up as anything Bethesda put out at launch) and look what CP2077 was like at launch.

Just my 2 cents and want to know if there's anyone here that's ignoring the "don't preorder" rule for Starfield and why you're ignoring it for this game; not looking to try convince anyone to cancel their preorders, but why exactly is this a game worth preordering?

yeah man

[Ragnar Caesar]

Originally posted by reggie.ps:

Never preorder!

I will never pre-order. I promise!

[katzenkrimis]

Originally posted by reggie.ps:

Look what CP2077 was like at launch.

Ran perfectly fine for me.

While everyone was crying a river of tears, I finished the game a couple of weeks after release.

Completionist style.

[reggie.ps]

Originally posted by Al Abaster:

Somebody remind me what the big issues were with Fallout 4...

the big one off the top of my head is large load times based on your FPS, that bug is still in the game as far as I know (ie. the higher the framerate, the longer the load time), and this also affected minigame bugs like lockpicking, higher FPS meant your characters hand would go zipping along the lock

it's been 8 years now since I last played FO4, but aside from these two big big bugs, I remember constant crashes, long load times, quests breaking when it comes to NPC scripts, like NPCs disappearing during certain quests. but this is all anecdotal evidence from my own personal experience. not here to go debate about FO4 bugs lmao, but just curious why people are preordering a game from a company that's known for putting out the buggiest games at release, buggier than a bug farm

[DarkHorsePrime]

It's because of fallout 4 that I have pre-ordered this....
And CP 2077, ESO, FO76, skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, The Witcher (1,2 and 3).
It's just what I am into.
I also never really had any problems with Cyberpunk at launch or Fallout 4 so Meh I guess.

[alex010300]

Fallout 4 is good, so you are not going to frighten people away from this game.

[wesnef]

Originally posted by reggie.ps:

Originally posted by Al Abaster:

Somebody remind me what the big issues were with Fallout 4...

the big one off the top of my head is large load times based on your FPS, that bug is still in the game as far as I know (ie. the higher the framerate, the longer the load time), and this also affected minigame bugs like lockpicking, higher FPS meant your characters hand would go zipping along the lock

The "engine is tied to framerate" thing, is not a bug. It's how the game was designed. Of course, when FO4 came out, 60hz monitors were the vast majority, so. . .
Meanwhile, there's mods that can fix it, and they themselves fixed it in Fallout 76.
(also, that loading time thing is false - the two different "faster loading" mods both work by making the load screen fps 350+, which vastly speeds up loading.)

[Ragnar Caesar]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Fallout 4 is good, so you are not going to frighten people away from this game.

+1

[Brian9824]

Didn't have any issues of any significance in Fallout 4 really. Worked pretty damn well

[reggie.ps]

Originally posted by wesnef:

Originally posted by reggie.ps:

the big one off the top of my head is large load times based on your FPS, that bug is still in the game as far as I know (ie. the higher the framerate, the longer the load time), and this also affected minigame bugs like lockpicking, higher FPS meant your characters hand would go zipping along the lock

The "engine is tied to framerate" thing, is not a bug. It's how the game was designed. Of course, when FO4 came out, 60hz monitors were the vast majority, so. . .
Meanwhile, there's mods that can fix it, and they themselves fixed it in Fallout 76.
(also, that loading time thing is false - the two different "faster loading" mods both work by making the load screen fps 350+, which vastly speeds up loading.)

okay, hear me out here, designing your engine to be tied around FPS is a console based method, PC games from the golden era of the late 90s to early 2000s, never had this, this limitation around FPS being tied to speed started around the PS1/PS2 era, you excusing a bad engine for bugs caused by said engine feels like bad bait, it's like being grateful for your pizza being only 30% burnt cause you're used to your pizza being 50% burnt.

[reggie.ps]

Originally posted by Al Abaster:

Originally posted by reggie.ps:

the big one off the top of my head is large load times

I'm not seeing though how this constitutes enough to hurl invective at Starfield. I'm not pre-ordering because I consider it financially irresponsible, and I want to wait and see how much woke I'm going to be forced to endure.

YOU ARE THE PERSON I WISH MOST OF THE GAMING COMMUNITY IS LIKE.
I'm not telling these people to not buy the game, but for the love of god do not preorder, do not ever preorder, I'm hype as ♥♥♥♥ for so many games, I will NEVER preorder cause launch periods at every game is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ mess, and I don't know why for the love of god people are preordering this considering Bethesda's track history at launch, give it a week or two, let the reviews come in, let the first few patches come in, but whatever you do, never ever preorder.

[Frankbt92]

Fallout 4 is great

[Lo Burattino]

but Fallout 4 wasn't bad

[NaCly]

I fully expect it to launch with plenty of bugs just like every other Bethesda game. I also love the entire Elder Scrolls and Fallout series (with the exception of ESO and FO76). I have no issues with pre-ordering this and Steam allows you to refund all the way up to 2 weeks past launch or 2 hours of playtime, so there really isnt any downside to pre-ordering now vs waiting for launch.

[Frankbt92]

Originally posted by reggie.ps:

I'm not trusting any suit that tells me it's bug free; especially after Todd Howard claiming FO4 "just works" prior to release, it didn't.

Never preorder!
Even if you're 1000% sure you're gonna buy the game, NEVER PREORDER. The bonuses you get ain't worth the price of getting a stinker at launch.

The last game I preordered was Cyberpunk 2077, to put it in perspective cause we've all been bitten by pre-launch hype. Thought I could trust CDPR with their track record being much better than Bethesda at launch (W3 at launch was nowhere near as ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up as anything Bethesda put out at launch) and look what CP2077 was like at launch.

Just my 2 cents and want to know if there's anyone here that's ignoring the "don't preorder" rule for Starfield and why you're ignoring it for this game; not looking to try convince anyone to cancel their preorders, but why exactly is this a game worth preordering?

"Don't preorder rule"? LOL you just made that up? Where's that written? It's worth preordering just because i like what they've shown, It's my personal desition, EVERYONE personal desition, to preorder or not, don't get all this people demanding others to justify in what they use their money.