RX 7600 1080p?

[Waffle1G]

I just realized the AMD website advertises the 1080p "Heroic Experience" with a RX 7600.
Bumping their 1440 experience up by recommending the RX 6800 series.
RX 7600 however, is give or take the same performance as the RTX 2080 which is the recommended on Steam.
Fair to say the 2080 won't be pushing 1440p at 60fps, and will just be enough for 1080p at either 30 or 60fps (I'm guessing looking at specs)
What would you guys say you reckon would be a decent 1440p card?
Is a 4080 or RX 7900 XT necessary?

Yes, I'm aware we'll only know after the game releases and benchmarks are out.
But for us tech geeks it's still fun to speculate and brainstorm specs/performance.

[wesnef]

Those aren't actual recommendations. They're an advertisement in support of their "buy a current GPU/CPU and get Starfield free" promotion.

So all their 'suggestions' are things that are from the 'current' available hardware and covered by the sale. The 7600 is the lowest-end GPU that's in the sale, so that's the one they have to suggest for the 1080p setup. There's nothing smaller.

[Waffle1G]

Originally posted by wesnef:

Those aren't actual recommendations. They're an advertisement in support of their "buy a current GPU/CPU and get Starfield free" promotion.

So all their 'suggestions' are things that are from the 'current' available hardware and covered by the sale. The 7600 is the lowest-end GPU that's in the sale, so that's the one they have to suggest for the 1080p setup. There's nothing smaller.

Hmm, so even tho it's an advertisement atleast this means the 7600 must and will run decent on 1080p right? I mean like, there's no way they would sell that GPU/CPU without it actually being powerful enough to back their 1080p claims right?

[Mentally Unstable]

Have a look at some benchmarks of the 7600 and 2080 at the following:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/10.html

Using cyberpunk as an approximation, the two cards are about the same at 1080p and 1440p but the 2080 is the more capable card at 4k.

However at 1440p, neither is hitting 60. Bear in mind that it is without dlss/fsr and without ray tracing. So if you use dlss/fsr, you would likely be able to hit 60 at 1440p with both of them, without ray tracing of course.

If you want a comfortable 1440p experience without the use of DLSS/FSR, then I would suggest a 4070ti or 7800 but the latter is still not out yet. The 4080 and 7900 are intended for 4k but if you have the dough to spare, there's nothing wrong with getting either for 1440p either.

Here is 4070ti's performance in cyberpunk:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-tuf/11.html

[Waffle1G]

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

Have a look at some benchmarks of the 7600 and 2080 at the following:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/10.html

Using cyberpunk as an approximation, the two cards are about the same at 1080p and 1440p but the 2080 is the more capable card at 4k.

However at 1440p, neither is hitting 60. Bear in mind that it is without dlss/fsr and without ray tracing. So if you use dlss/fsr, you would likely be able to hit 60 at 1440p with both of them, without ray tracing of course.

Yeah that's why I got confused that the AMD website shows the 7600 is only good for a 1080p experience but not powerful enough for 1440p, yet both cards (2080) are pretty much the same.
I guess like Wesnef said above, it's just marketing and advertising to sell their products.
Do you think Starfield will have similar performance as Cyberbunk?

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by Waffle1G:

Do you think Starfield will have similar performance as Cyberbunk?

I honestly don't know. But cyberpunk serves as one of the more demanding games to benchmark on besides hogwarts. Similar to how crysis was the go to benchmark of yesteryear. So if one is able to clear cyberpunk benchmarks by a good margin and without use of dlss/fsr, then they should stand a good chance at starfield, optimization notwithstanding.

Speaking about optimization, beth games tend to be somewhat of an unoptimized heap at launch which means weaker rigs might suffer at the start while stronger rigs can just power (brute force) through it. I remember even the 3080 struggling in cyberpunk at launch.

[Waffle1G]

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

Originally posted by Waffle1G:

Do you think Starfield will have similar performance as Cyberbunk?

I honestly don't know. But cyberpunk serves as one of the more demanding games to benchmark on besides hogwarts. Similar to how crysis was the go to benchmark of yesteryear. So if one is able to clear cyberpunk benchmarks by a good margin and without use of dlss/fsr, then they should stand a good chance at starfield, optimization notwithstanding.

Speaking about optimization, beth games tend to be somewhat of an unoptimized heap at launch which means weaker rigs might suffer at the start while stronger rigs can just power (brute force) through it. I remember even the 3080 struggling in cyberpunk at launch.

Yeah, Cyberpunk is usually the first to pop up on any benchmarking video.
I guess it really is the new Crysis when it comes to benchmarking and tons of intensive testing.

How would you go about purchasing Starfield, as everyone is well aware their releases can be.. well.. not very pleasant.
What if your rig isn't powerful enough at launch, would you just refund it.
Wait for game updates, maybe driver updates and purchase it again?
I'm running the 2080 myself hence I noticed the 7600 recommendation, and even though it's ''only'' 4 years old. It already feels very outdated.
Fingers crossed I'm able to achieve 60fps decent graphics on 1440p, as my GPU is currently my weakest link.

[Agricola]

Originally posted by wesnef:

Those aren't actual recommendations. They're an advertisement in support of their "buy a current GPU/CPU and get Starfield free" promotion.

So all their 'suggestions' are things that are from the 'current' available hardware and covered by the sale. The 7600 is the lowest-end GPU that's in the sale, so that's the one they have to suggest for the 1080p setup. There's nothing smaller.

Exactly. either that or they are trying to hide an issue with graphics where running a normal 1080 rig achieving 60-80 FPS will result in 10FPS running starfield. look at the specs at the bottom of the store page , copied below. the recomended RX6800xt is A 4K card. Don't fall for the BS sales lie. Might be best to hold off upgrading until we know how the game really performs.


MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 10 version 22H2 (10.0.19045)
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, Intel Core i7-6800K
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti
DirectX: Version 12
Storage: 125 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD Required
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 10/11 with updates
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, Intel i5-10600K
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
DirectX: Version 12
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 125 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD Required

[D#]

The 7600 is basically the same as a 5700xt. It does fine at modern titles at 1440p if you are not maxing the settings.

[supergoyo77]

Originally posted by Waffle1G:

I just realized the AMD website advertises the 1080p "Heroic Experience" with a RX 7600.
Bumping their 1440 experience up by recommending the RX 6800 series.
RX 7600 however, is give or take the same performance as the RTX 2080 which is the recommended on Steam.
Fair to say the 2080 won't be pushing 1440p at 60fps, and will just be enough for 1080p at either 30 or 60fps (I'm guessing looking at specs)
What would you guys say you reckon would be a decent 1440p card?
Is a 4080 or RX 7900 XT necessary?

Yes, I'm aware we'll only know after the game releases and benchmarks are out.
But for us tech geeks it's still fun to speculate and brainstorm specs/performance.

I am going to play in 1080p with the RX 6700 XT 12 GB and for 1440p with this GPU you will play just as well, you don't need to spend a lot of money to play in full hd with high quality at 60 fps.

[KesslerCOIL]

Originally posted by supergoyo77:

Originally posted by Waffle1G:

I just realized the AMD website advertises the 1080p "Heroic Experience" with a RX 7600.
Bumping their 1440 experience up by recommending the RX 6800 series.
RX 7600 however, is give or take the same performance as the RTX 2080 which is the recommended on Steam.
Fair to say the 2080 won't be pushing 1440p at 60fps, and will just be enough for 1080p at either 30 or 60fps (I'm guessing looking at specs)
What would you guys say you reckon would be a decent 1440p card?
Is a 4080 or RX 7900 XT necessary?

Yes, I'm aware we'll only know after the game releases and benchmarks are out.
But for us tech geeks it's still fun to speculate and brainstorm specs/performance.

I am going to play in 1080p with the RX 6700 XT 12 GB and for 1440p with this GPU you will play just as well, you don't need to spend a lot of money to play in full hd with high quality at 60 fps.

you say that, but a lot of games in the last couple years have run like hot garbage.
Jedi Survivor recommends an RTX2070|RX6700XT, but that only gets you 30fps 1080p with a ♥♥♥♥ load of stuttering too.

[niacus]

The Xbox Series S GPU equivalent is the AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT or its Nvidia counterpart, the Geforce GTX 1650 Super. This conclusion is based on the Xbox Series S performance levels in triple-A PC games since its release. So 1440p 30 is possible with low end GPU, it seems performance is CPU bound.

[supergoyo77]

Originally posted by KesslerCOIL:

Originally posted by supergoyo77:

I am going to play in 1080p with the RX 6700 XT 12 GB and for 1440p with this GPU you will play just as well, you don't need to spend a lot of money to play in full hd with high quality at 60 fps.

you say that, but a lot of games in the last couple years have run like hot garbage.
Jedi Survivor recommends an RTX2070|RX6700XT, but that only gets you 30fps 1080p with a ♥♥♥♥ load of stuttering too.

We'll see, Me with my AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor 4.00 GHz, 32.0 GB Ram Corsair and my Sapphire RX 6700 XT 12 GB I think I can play Starfield without any problem on my TV 1080p 60 hz quadcore HDR 10 pq16 without any problem in high quality and at 60 fps with the hdr activated.

[Xsile]

Originally posted by Waffle1G:

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

I honestly don't know. But cyberpunk serves as one of the more demanding games to benchmark on besides hogwarts. Similar to how crysis was the go to benchmark of yesteryear. So if one is able to clear cyberpunk benchmarks by a good margin and without use of dlss/fsr, then they should stand a good chance at starfield, optimization notwithstanding.

Speaking about optimization, beth games tend to be somewhat of an unoptimized heap at launch which means weaker rigs might suffer at the start while stronger rigs can just power (brute force) through it. I remember even the 3080 struggling in cyberpunk at launch.

Yeah, Cyberpunk is usually the first to pop up on any benchmarking video.
I guess it really is the new Crysis when it comes to benchmarking and tons of intensive testing.

How would you go about purchasing Starfield, as everyone is well aware their releases can be.. well.. not very pleasant.
What if your rig isn't powerful enough at launch, would you just refund it.
Wait for game updates, maybe driver updates and purchase it again?
I'm running the 2080 myself hence I noticed the 7600 recommendation, and even though it's ''only'' 4 years old. It already feels very outdated.
Fingers crossed I'm able to achieve 60fps decent graphics on 1440p, as my GPU is currently my weakest link.

The thing about cyberpunk is how horribly optimized that game is. CDPR has admitted as much. Though through many many optimization patches cyber punk keeps running better and better even on much older hardware like mine. The problem with benches as that most that do them move on once they get their results and make their conclusions about the hardware they are benching. They rarely go back and test older equipment to see how that equipment runs a game that has had 2 years of optimization patches. I bought cyber punk the day it came out and my poor Ryzen 3600 and RX 5700xt had a hell of a time running the game on lowest setting. However today, due to all the optimizations CDPR has patched into cyber punk I can run it on a mix of ultra and high setting on the same exact computer. In conclusion I would say hold off on any gpu purchase until at least several patches have taken place, because you know there will be.