Please DO NOT Switch to 7900 XTX

[_APA [~sudo]]

Guys, I thought I should share this as Many of you guys might be switching from NVIDIA to AMD GPUs just for this. If you are stupid like me. I have been using NVIDIA GPUs forever, saw AMD sponsoring Starfield so I went and bought 7900 XTX - The biggest mistake of my life.

Now I understand these things happen but AMD sucks, I had so many issues
- Boot times were insane, 2 minutes to load into Windows (this is 100% AMD's fault and there are many posts on the internet about it)
- Multi-monitor sometimes won't work, It will crash drivers until I reboot (again is AMD fault for not fixing these issues)
- Driver crashes over and over again (I don't care if I had DDR5 RAM as someone on AMD Forums suggested, NVIDIA works so should AMD)
- WIFI Interception, A horrible Coil Whine also intercepted the WIFI Signal, I Went on Diel up speed :( This could very well be faulty hardware so I don't think this is AMD's fault but I hated every min of it

I understand, my setup might have been too advanced for AMD GPU
- Intel i9 13900
- 64GB DDR5 (6000)
- MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk

Things I have tried
- Fresh Install windows twice
- Cleared CMOS and reset BIOS (bios are up to date on Motherboard and the GPU both)
- Turned off any Boot settings in BIOS which could cause it
- Tried different display ports
- Tried different cables
- Check PCIe for dust or anything, Checked the card fitting to the socket
- Checked for the power Interruptions (there are none)
- Running in standard default settings (No OC)
- Also tried undervolting and overclocking - Nothing makes any difference

So If you are thinking to switch, just keep it in mind if you have a similar setup.

NOTES:
- This post is about 7900XTX, please don't post comments like oh my 6900XT (or another card) works, I don't care, 6900XT works for me too, please don't waste time.

- If you say your 7900XTX Works, Please share your full system specs, I stated that many times, this is related to particular setups such as mine especially If you have AMD CPU, please this post is not for you with all due respect.

Some references for the similar issue
https://community.amd.com/t5/graphics/7900xt-xtx-long-boot-initialisation-time/m-p/592222#M96302

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/amd-7900-xt-causing-boot-times-to-be-insanely-slow.3799203/?fbclid=IwAR3DRQQkwnYx-1cfqMcWDl0ogsW2XUPtIl4BdKMr71Lx2RoD5oU2a2DNo7s

https://reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/10l2aku/pc_takes_longer_to_boot_with_new_gpu_7900_xtx/

[RiChuF]

Originally posted by Dyna:

Originally posted by Sikklid:

Some people should stick to consoles.

Only to discover that both Playstation and Xbox run on AMD hardware with zero driver issues

That is some market share right there :)

And that's what most forget
amd already won the console war

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by RiChuF:

Originally posted by Dyna:

Only to discover that both Playstation and Xbox run on AMD hardware with zero driver issues

That is some market share right there :)

And that's what most forget
amd already won the console war

Best selling console currently on sale has an Nvidia APU actually.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Originally posted by RiChuF:

And that's what most forget
amd already won the console war

Best selling console currently on sale has an Nvidia APU actually.

The switch is an arm tablet with nintendo software on it. It's also from the previous generation of consoles, being released 3 years before the ps5/xbsx.

It isn't even competing in the same market segment anymore, price, performance, or form factor-wise.

It is successful, but it isn't the same.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Best selling console currently on sale has an Nvidia APU actually.

The switch is an arm tablet with nintendo software on it. It's also from the previous generation of consoles, being released 3 years before the ps5/xbsx.

It isn't even competing in the same market segment anymore, price, performance, or form factor-wise.

The Switch is a home console with an Nvidia APU and is the best selling console currently available. In fact it's the second best selling console of all time. The underlying tech is irrelevant. Nvidia makes the APU

It's also technically a current gen console. The Wii U was the 8th gen release from Nintendo.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

The Switch is a home console with an Nvidia APU and is the best selling console currently available. In fact it's the second best selling console of all time. The underlying tech is irrelevant. Nvidia makes the APU

Point in comment you missed.

Originally posted by Deadoon:

It isn't even competing in the same market segment anymore, price, performance, or form factor-wise.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

The Switch is a home console with an Nvidia APU and is the best selling console currently available. In fact it's the second best selling console of all time. The underlying tech is irrelevant. Nvidia makes the APU

Point in comment you missed.

Originally posted by Deadoon:

It isn't even competing in the same market segment anymore, price, performance, or form factor-wise.

You thinking it doesn't compete in the same market is irrelevant. It is objectively competition for other home consoles.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

You thinking it doesn't compete in the same market is irrelevant. It is objectively competition for other home consoles.

And you thinking it is a ninth gen console is also an opinion that goes against general consensus.

The switch is successful BECAUSE it isn't competing in the same space as the other mainstream consoles. It carved out a niche that they cannot fulfil, and thrives in it. Nintendo failed with the WIIU, and basically fell back to their reliable handheld market and released a high performance handheld that can act as a home console, but is also fully capable of running independently.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

You thinking it doesn't compete in the same market is irrelevant. It is objectively competition for other home consoles.

And you thinking it is a ninth gen console is also an opinion that goes against general consensus.

The switch is successful BECAUSE it isn't competing in the same space as the other mainstream consoles. It carved out a niche that they cannot fulfil, and thrives in it. Nintendo failed with the WIIU, and basically fell back to their reliable handheld market and released a high performance handheld that can act as a home console, but is also fully capable of running independently.

And you're still wrong. It's the best selling home console on sale right now. You can keep replying but you'll still be wrong. Nvidia has the lead market share in both the PC and console market.

[DCid]

If Ratchet and Clank and Remnant 2 is anything to go by.

Starfield dodge a bullet by blocking Nvidia if the rumors are true.

Those two are the latest games with heavy Nvidia tech that have trash performance.

No amount of spinning on your head is going to change that.

[commodore1979]

I didnt I switched to rx 7900 xt

[RiChuF]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Originally posted by Deadoon:

And you thinking it is a ninth gen console is also an opinion that goes against general consensus.

The switch is successful BECAUSE it isn't competing in the same space as the other mainstream consoles. It carved out a niche that they cannot fulfil, and thrives in it. Nintendo failed with the WIIU, and basically fell back to their reliable handheld market and released a high performance handheld that can act as a home console, but is also fully capable of running independently.

And you're still wrong. It's the best selling home console on sale right now. You can keep replying but you'll still be wrong. Nvidia has the lead market share in both the PC and console market.

ohh god

[RiChuF]

Originally posted by DCid:

If Ratchet and Clank and Remnant 2 is anything to go by.

Starfield dodge a bullet by blocking Nvidia if the rumors are true.

Those two are the latest games with heavy Nvidia tech that have trash performance.

No amount of spinning on your head is going to change that.

careful we have a know it all in here that will try and correct you

[Zelensky, King of beggars]

Originally posted by DCid:

If Ratchet and Clank and Remnant 2 is anything to go by.

Starfield dodge a bullet by blocking Nvidia if the rumors are true.

Those two are the latest games with heavy Nvidia tech that have trash performance.

No amount of spinning on your head is going to change that.

Ratchet and clank is very well optimized with minor issues and Remnant is developer's fault for using UE5 with no knowledge of new tech. The only thing Nvidia does to games is put options for all upscalers and optimize the game for their own platform which AMD doesn't because they think they can force people to use the abomination that FSR is, fortunately people like Puredark exist and mod in DLSS day one. Buying an AMD GPU is like wanting to play Star Citizen and buying Elite Dangerous, next time don't cheap out and buy the real deal.

[Zelensky, King of beggars]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by Zelensky, King of beggars:

There's a reason why their combined Steam GPU share is 2% when you count the last 3 gens vs Nvidia's.

AMD has 15% gpu share on steam. The issue is that AMD cards sometimes report generic names like "AMD Radeon Graphics"(even the 7900xt does this according to reddit) or my(still well performing) vega 56 being a "Radeon RX Vega"(even in task manager), which is shared with the v56, v64 and Radeon 7 I believe.

imagine being so incompetent you can't even name your own product in its software

[AmaiAmai]

Just came here to say that it does sound like a RAM issue, and that MSI boards have been having issues with SAMSUNG RAM which G SKILL kits mostly use -- it's an issue for AMD And INTEL boards. Ask MSI for support