Ryzen 5 2600 and Ryzen 5 2600x

[Kucingilang]

So I have R5 2600 and the requirements is R5 2600x and I have RTX 3060 for the gpu, with 16gb of RAM. My question is Can I still run this game? or should I upgrade first? Thanks!

[Cellar_Cat]

My guess is it might run, if not especially well. A subpar CPU is often harder to compensate for with in-game settings than a subpar GPU in my experience. You can't always disable or turn down the things it struggles with.

But that's only a guess. To my knowledge none of us here can play the game yet, so it's kind of hard to give much else.

[Deadoon]

The 2600 and it's x variant aren't all that different. You only lose .2-.3 ghz clock speed, but otherwise have the exact same cpu.

If you are willing to upgrade and if you have a motherboard compatible with it, you might be able to upgrade to something much more powerful like a 5700(x or g is also only a few % off from one another). Sub $200 and you get a cpu with 1.5-2* the performance on the same socket and power draw.

[Kucingilang]

Originally posted by Cellar_Cat:

My guess is it might run, if not especially well. A subpar CPU is often harder to compensate for with in-game settings than a subpar GPU in my experience. You can't always disable or turn down the things it struggles with.

But that's only a guess. To my knowledge none of us here can play the game yet, so it's kind of hard to give much else.

I hope it runs well. Thanks for the info!

Originally posted by Deadoon:

The 2600 and it's x variant aren't all that different. You only lose .2-.3 ghz clock speed, but otherwise have the exact same cpu.

If you are willing to upgrade and if you have a motherboard compatible with it, you might be able to upgrade to something much more powerful like a 5700(x or g is also only a few % off from one another). Sub $200 and you get a cpu with 1.5-2* the performance on the same socket and power draw.

Glad that it has not much different, thanks for the advise and reply! cheers!

[Pandora's Actor]

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

So I have R5 2600 and the requirements is R5 2600x and I have RTX 3060 for the gpu, with 16gb of RAM. My question is Can I still run this game? or should I upgrade first? Thanks!

both will give about the same perf so if you have a tight budget you really dont need to upgrade.

but it may hold your 3060 back so generally you would want to upgrade, and depending on your motherbord you may be able to simply update the bios and put something else in there like a 5600x. which can be found for 156 euros. and is an absolute steal for such a price. but you dont have to if you dont want to.

and to test out if your cpu holds your gpu back. play the most demanding aaa game you have like cyberpunk orso, and then see with an overlay how much usage your gpu has. if its between 95-100% 99% of the time its good. if it falls under the 90% or even far below it you have performance that you currently arent getting left on the table.

[Kucingilang]

Originally posted by Pandora's Actor:

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

So I have R5 2600 and the requirements is R5 2600x and I have RTX 3060 for the gpu, with 16gb of RAM. My question is Can I still run this game? or should I upgrade first? Thanks!

both will give about the same perf so if you have a tight budget you really dont need to upgrade.

but it may hold your 3060 back so generally you would want to upgrade, and depending on your motherbord you may be able to simply update the bios and put something else in there like a 5600x. which can be found for 156 euros. and is an absolute steal for such a price. but you dont have to if you dont want to.

and to test out if your cpu holds your gpu back. play the most demanding aaa game you have like cyberpunk orso, and then see with an overlay how much usage your gpu has. if its between 95-100% 99% of the time its good. if it falls under the 90% or even far below it you have performance that you currently arent getting left on the table.

should I stick with AMD cpu or Intel? which one is suitable for 3060? I heard that i3 13th gen is enough for my 3060.

[Pandora's Actor]

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

Originally posted by Pandora's Actor:

both will give about the same perf so if you have a tight budget you really dont need to upgrade.

but it may hold your 3060 back so generally you would want to upgrade, and depending on your motherbord you may be able to simply update the bios and put something else in there like a 5600x. which can be found for 156 euros. and is an absolute steal for such a price. but you dont have to if you dont want to.

and to test out if your cpu holds your gpu back. play the most demanding aaa game you have like cyberpunk orso, and then see with an overlay how much usage your gpu has. if its between 95-100% 99% of the time its good. if it falls under the 90% or even far below it you have performance that you currently arent getting left on the table.

should I stick with AMD cpu or Intel? which one is suitable for 3060? I heard that i3 13th gen is enough for my 3060.

depends on your motherbord. if you have a b450 or x470 no you dont have to. even if you have a b350/x370 but a good motherbord you probably dont even need to change it to stick in a 5000 gen cpu.

so what motherbord do you have? because there would be 0 reason for you to change your mobo and ram if you have a good motherbord right now.

[Kucingilang]

Originally posted by Pandora's Actor:

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

should I stick with AMD cpu or Intel? which one is suitable for 3060? I heard that i3 13th gen is enough for my 3060.

depends on your motherbord. if you have a b450 or x470 no you dont have to. even if you have a b350/x370 but a good motherbord you probably dont even need to change it to stick in a 5000 gen cpu.

so what motherbord do you have? because there would be 0 reason for you to change your mobo and ram if you have a good motherbord right now.

I have b350M atm and I'm planning to change my motherboard to h610m combined with i3 12100f

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

Originally posted by Pandora's Actor:

depends on your motherbord. if you have a b450 or x470 no you dont have to. even if you have a b350/x370 but a good motherbord you probably dont even need to change it to stick in a 5000 gen cpu.

so what motherbord do you have? because there would be 0 reason for you to change your mobo and ram if you have a good motherbord right now.

I have b350M atm and I'm planning to change my motherboard to h610m combined with i3 12100f

12100 f is not really that much of an "upgrade" over your current cpu. It has great single core performance, but is only a 4 core cpu and you would have to buy an entirely new motherboard as well. Your b350 is likely to have a bios update that can get it to work as well. A 5600 is about the same price as the 12100f, but has 2 more cores AND should be compatible with your current board.

It all depends on the exact motherboard though. B350 tomahawk for example has support even for ryzen 5000 pro.

[-M*A*S*H-]

My PC :

Ryzen 5 2600 (overclocked 4.00 Ghz with Ryzen Master)
NH-D15 SE-AM4 Noctua for cooling
PRIME B450M-K motherboard
RTX 3060 12GB Vram graphics card
32 GB RAM
SSD

By using the Ryzen Master software you can safely overclock the Ryzen 5 2600 up to 4.00 Ghz.
Mine has been overclocked for 2 years and everything is going very well.
I live in a region of Europe where the summer temperature is 40° on average so no problem with my Noctua

Here is a video that will show you how to do it, it's this video that I followed (I just adapted the tension)

https://youtu.be/Nyj6qa-jtfk

A screenshot of my overclocking

https://i.imgur.com/3AWsexE.png

And finally a link (in French sorry, but you will find an English version) To have the links but also to re-install the AMD drivers from time to time when you will one day have the message that tells you that Ryzen master cannot start.
So don't panic.

https://windows.atsit.in/fr/11615/

AMD's problem is that they always suck for updates to their products, unlike Intel and N'vidia.
But it's not the same prices for their products, AMD is cheaper but just as reliable for people who have small budgets

Hope this answers your questions

[Kucingilang]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

I have b350M atm and I'm planning to change my motherboard to h610m combined with i3 12100f

12100 f is not really that much of an "upgrade" over your current cpu. It has great single core performance, but is only a 4 core cpu and you would have to buy an entirely new motherboard as well. Your b350 is likely to have a bios update that can get it to work as well. A 5600 is about the same price as the 12100f, but has 2 more cores AND should be compatible with your current board.

It all depends on the exact motherboard though. B350 tomahawk for example has support even for ryzen 5000 pro.

I see... I'll try 5600x then. Thanks for the info!

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

So I have R5 2600 and the requirements is R5 2600x and I have RTX 3060 for the gpu, with 16gb of RAM. My question is Can I still run this game? or should I upgrade first? Thanks!

It's the same freaking CPU 😐 it just has an X on the label that's not at all significant in any meaningful way.

The X is barely faster and has the exact same architecture. That's like saying a Ryzen 3600 can't be on par with 3600x or 5600 can't play the same games as 5600x. That's just not true.

If your CPU has an X all you did was pay more for an extremely small gain.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

I have b350M atm and I'm planning to change my motherboard to h610m combined with i3 12100f

12100 f is not really that much of an "upgrade" over your current cpu. It has great single core performance, but is only a 4 core cpu and you would have to buy an entirely new motherboard as well. Your b350 is likely to have a bios update that can get it to work as well. A 5600 is about the same price as the 12100f, but has 2 more cores AND should be compatible with your current board.

It all depends on the exact motherboard though. B350 tomahawk for example has support even for ryzen 5000 pro.

The i3-12100f is about 50% faster than Ryzen 2600 in gaming. Desktop apps, video games, multimedia apps only care about core performance, which in this case the i3 dominates.

The i3-12100f also has four times the pcie bandwidth. Nothing about the Ryzen is better except maybe the number of CPU threads available. These CPU threads will be useless though and just remain idle.

Originally posted by -M*A*S*H-:

My PC :

Ryzen 5 2600 (overclocked 4.00 Ghz with Ryzen Master)
NH-D15 SE-AM4 Noctua for cooling
PRIME B450M-K motherboard
RTX 3060 12GB Vram graphics card
32 GB RAM
SSD

By using the Ryzen Master software you can safely overclock the Ryzen 5 2600 up to 4.00 Ghz.
Mine has been overclocked for 2 years and everything is going very well.
I live in a region of Europe where the summer temperature is 40° on average so no problem with my Noctua

Here is a video that will show you how to do it, it's this video that I followed (I just adapted the tension)

https://youtu.be/Nyj6qa-jtfk

A screenshot of my overclocking

https://i.imgur.com/3AWsexE.png

And finally a link (in French sorry, but you will find an English version) To have the links but also to re-install the AMD drivers from time to time when you will one day have the message that tells you that Ryzen master cannot start.
So don't panic.

https://windows.atsit.in/fr/11615/

AMD's problem is that they always suck for updates to their products, unlike Intel and N'vidia.
But it's not the same prices for their products, AMD is cheaper but just as reliable for people who have small budgets

Hope this answers your questions

Overclocking Ryzen is a complete waste.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

I see... I'll try 5600x then. Thanks for the info!

5600 is notably cheaper and similar performance. The 5700g however is almost the same price as the 5600x, and you get two more cores with near identical performance to the 5600x. The 5600x is basically between a bunch of good deals and overpriced.

Before all of that though, ensure your motherboard has a bios update that is compatible with the newer chips.

[Pandora's Actor]

Originally posted by Kucingilang:

Originally posted by Pandora's Actor:

depends on your motherbord. if you have a b450 or x470 no you dont have to. even if you have a b350/x370 but a good motherbord you probably dont even need to change it to stick in a 5000 gen cpu.

so what motherbord do you have? because there would be 0 reason for you to change your mobo and ram if you have a good motherbord right now.

I have b350M atm and I'm planning to change my motherboard to h610m combined with i3 12100f

i put this warning ahead for a reason so make sure you read it
" DO NOT INSTALL THE LATEST BIOS BEFORE GETTING THE NEW CPU TO SWAP IT WITH. ONLY INSTALL THE NEWEST BIOS WHEN YOU HAVE THE NEW CPU AND PLAN TO SWITCH IT IMMEDIATLY AFTERWARDS. PS AFTER YOU UPDATED YOUR BIOS THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY TO PUT YOUR OLD CPU BACK IN. DO NOT DO THIS OR IT WILL CREATE ISSUES. "

if it is the asus prima b350 a you could get a 5600x after you installed bios version 6042.
if it is the msi B350M Gaming Pro you could get the 5600x after you installed bios version 7A39v2P5(Beta version)
if it is the MSI B350M PRO VDH you could get the 5600x after you installed bios version 7A38vAL4(Beta version)
if it is the msi B350M MORTAR you could get the 5600x after you installed bios version 7A37v1O7(Beta version)

there is 0 reason for you to go get a i3 or i5 from intel. it would cost more money than you have to spend. just buy the cpu. and update the bios after you received the new cpu already and your ready to swap it out. then swap it out and your good to go.

[Pandora's Actor]

Originally posted by W O K E I S M:

Overclocking Ryzen is a complete waste.

it is not. it can get you better stable framerates. its only a waste on the 7000 series or x3d parts who benefit more of the pbo/expo settings