Pre-Download for PC?

[CommanderCody]

Did they say anything about a pre-download opening up? I don't want a Balder's Gate fiasco where millions of us start to pre-download at the same time and we end up crashing the servers for days on end.

[spicyLEGO]

Escrito originalmente por Hernie:

Escrito originalmente por spicyLEGO:

I have experienced Pre-download (and later unpacking files) to be much slower than downloading the game officially after launch

There will be a lot of people downloading this title near the launch date so it may be slower at the start, but as more users have it installed it will be much quicker, if you want to wait that long. It's a big download so as soon as I can pre-download I'm doing it. I hate waiting.

One thing is for sure, I won't learn from my experience and pre-download the game anyway
Because I can't wait

[herbstwerk]

Escrito originalmente por spicyLEGO:

I have experienced Pre-download (and later unpacking files) to be much slower than downloading the game officially after launch

Speed of decrypt absolutely depends on the speed of your drive, CPU, RAM and available resources. Hogwards Legacy, a game of comparable size, decrypted for me in minutes (on a NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD, 64GB and 5900X) while there were post/threads complaining that it took hours. On mid tier current/last gen hardware it really shouldn't take longer than the download unless you have exceptionally fast internet and the Steam servers are having a really good day or aren't hammered by thousands of users trying to get the same files.

[Henswi]

Escrito originalmente por spicyLEGO:

I have experienced Pre-download (and later unpacking files) to be much slower than downloading the game officially after launch

Is unpacking related to your SSD speed, or we will be forced to digest 2 hours of unpacking 125GB if we decide to predownload?

[spicyLEGO]

Escrito originalmente por herbstwerk:

Escrito originalmente por spicyLEGO:

I have experienced Pre-download (and later unpacking files) to be much slower than downloading the game officially after launch

Speed of decrypt absolutely depends on the speed of your drive, CPU, RAM and available resources. Hogwards Legacy, a game of comparable size, decrypted for me in minutes (on a NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD, 64GB and 5900X) while there were post/threads complaining that it took hours. On mid tier current/last gen hardware it really shouldn't take longer than the download unless you have exceptionally fast internet and the Steam servers are having a really good day or aren't hammered by thousands of users trying to get the same files.

I have a SATA SSD, so maybe that's why it has been slow for me

[spicyLEGO]

Escrito originalmente por Henswi:

Escrito originalmente por spicyLEGO:

I have experienced Pre-download (and later unpacking files) to be much slower than downloading the game officially after launch

Is unpacking related to your SSD speed, or we will be forced to digest 2 hours of unpacking 125GB if we decide to predownload?

tbh, 2 hours of unpacking is tolerable compared to waiting 5 to 8 hours downloading the game AFTER it has released

[Darth Sirius]

Escrito originalmente por ChuTheMan:

like many other big games? yes.

the issues with baldurs gate was that the game already released 3 years ago, the "release" works like a regular update to a game, you can't pre-download updates.
stuff like that works with MMO however.

i heard it was only for xbox

[Gibletstein]

All I say is wait and see. Its 3 weeks 3 days away for the early access. I'm hoping for a predownload as my county's internet is terrible and it took me 36 hours to download Fallout 4 GOTY. Then again I did install it on my ancient 2TB HDD Instead of a SSD.

[herbstwerk]

Escrito originalmente por spicyLEGO:

Escrito originalmente por herbstwerk:

Speed of decrypt absolutely depends on the speed of your drive, CPU, RAM and available resources. Hogwards Legacy, a game of comparable size, decrypted for me in minutes (on a NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD, 64GB and 5900X) while there were post/threads complaining that it took hours. On mid tier current/last gen hardware it really shouldn't take longer than the download unless you have exceptionally fast internet and the Steam servers are having a really good day or aren't hammered by thousands of users trying to get the same files.

I have a SATA SSD, so maybe that's why it has been slow for me

Quite possibly. The SATA interface itself certainly is a bottleneck, it taps out at around 600MB/s iirc, while a PCIe 3.0 NVMe will easily reach 3-4GB/s. That's 5+ times more, at that point it's not just a measurable difference.

[John Golderos]

Tommorow préload ?

[Fremduk]

Escrito originalmente por John Golderos:

Tommorow préload ?

For Xbox not PC - its common for Xbox to have pre-load as far as +30 days early as its close platform , with PC you lucky to get 72h because of data-mining / working on cracking on pc.

[ChuTheMan]

Escrito originalmente por Fremduk:

Escrito originalmente por John Golderos:

Tommorow préload ?

For Xbox not PC - its common for Xbox to have pre-load as far as +30 days early as its close platform , with PC you lucky to get 72h because of data-mining / working on cracking on pc.

if we talk about steam downloads, good luck trying to datamine/Crack that.
Steam downloads are encrypted with a AES 256-bit key

for people who dont know how strong that is, even if you got a quantum computer, it will still take 200 times longer than the universe have existed to encrypt it.

[herbstwerk]

Escrito originalmente por ChuTheMan:

Escrito originalmente por Fremduk:

For Xbox not PC - its common for Xbox to have pre-load as far as +30 days early as its close platform , with PC you lucky to get 72h because of data-mining / working on cracking on pc.

if we talk about steam downloads, good luck trying to datamine/Crack that.
Steam downloads are encrypted with a AES 256-bit key

for people who dont know how strong that is, even if you got a quantum computer, it will still take 200 times longer than the universe have existed to encrypt it.

I bet one of those fancy Iranian quantum computers will do it in an afternoon.
Also, why brute force it when the key is most likely 'It just works!'. ;)

[ChuTheMan]

Escrito originalmente por herbstwerk:

Escrito originalmente por ChuTheMan:

if we talk about steam downloads, good luck trying to datamine/Crack that.
Steam downloads are encrypted with a AES 256-bit key

for people who dont know how strong that is, even if you got a quantum computer, it will still take 200 times longer than the universe have existed to encrypt it.

I bet one of those fancy Iranian quantum computers will do it in an afternoon.
Also, why brute force it when the key is most likely 'It just works!'. ;)

oh damnk i forgot about the super power Iran.

but for real, Xbox do not encrypt their files at all, from what i know only the exe file is botched so it cant get cracked/used.
meaning datamining should be possible there.

[General_Mueller]

Well those of us who got the $100 edition don’t have to worry about this..

[[-iD-]]

Escrito originalmente por ChuTheMan:

Escrito originalmente por Fremduk:

For Xbox not PC - its common for Xbox to have pre-load as far as +30 days early as its close platform , with PC you lucky to get 72h because of data-mining / working on cracking on pc.

if we talk about steam downloads, good luck trying to datamine/Crack that.
Steam downloads are encrypted with a AES 256-bit key

for people who dont know how strong that is, even if you got a quantum computer, it will still take 200 times longer than the universe have existed to encrypt it.

this game isn't only on steam.