This or Star Citizen

[Jim]

I don't know much about Star Citizen, but am excited for Starfield, and watching youtube videos has started getting me Star Citizen / Squadron 42 videos in my recommended list.

Which would you go for?

[Deadoon]

引用自 JayRebirth：

You don't lose anything you've spent real money on!

[Citation needed] On that claim, because the only dev comment on the subject claiming that you never lose it was unofficiated by removing the gold text from it.
Also, proving my point:

引用自 Deadoon：

Star citizen fanboys won't even listen to developer statements on this and will argue that it isn't true.

[Witski]

引用自 Deadoon：

引用自 JayRebirth：

You don't lose anything you've spent real money on!

[Citation needed] On that claim, because the only dev comment on the subject claiming that you never lose it was unofficiated by removing the gold text from it.
Also, proving my point:

引用自 Deadoon：

Star citizen fanboys won't even listen to developer statements on this and will argue that it isn't true.

Again? By reading the Faq's, pledges ( ships ) are permanently atteched to the account.
Stop twisting words on something you don't understand and don't want to.

[-={LG}=-]

引用自 Witski：

pledges ( ships ) are permanently atteched to the account.

Indeed, they just make you wait a week to get it back if it gets destroyed in game. Which is why you should always buy a whole lot more than one ship...

[Daedrius]

Star Citizen has been in development for 12 years and today is still in alpha. So, you should definitely avoid Chris Roberts retirement plan and play Starfield next month.

[Deadoon]

引用自 Witski：

引用自 Deadoon：

[Citation needed] On that claim, because the only dev comment on the subject claiming that you never lose it was unofficiated by removing the gold text from it.
Also, proving my point:

Again? By reading the Faq's, pledges ( ships ) are permanently atteched to the account.
Stop twisting words on something you don't understand and don't want to.

You mean like the faqs that state if you lose your ship without insurance you will have to buy a new one? You know, like the one I referenced.
Also being attached to account permanently is quite a flexible statement. Another interpretation is that it just means that you can't buy the same ship multiple times with real money.

Again [citation needed]. Your claims hold no water unless you back them up with developer statements that have not been rescinded.

[Killzone]

This isnt vaporware.

[Bumblebro]

Aint no way you really wanna think about buying scam citizen lol.

[Jonah Falcon]

引用自 Killzone：

This isnt vaporware.

It's not vaporware, as friends of mine are enjoying playing it right now.

I'm looking forward to Squadron 42, personally. I'm a hermit and don't want to play with others.

[patrick68794]

引用自 Caduryn：

引用自 patrick68794：

Lol CIG has over 600 developers and pay over $50 million a year in salaries. They're not "relatively small," they're the size of most AAA studios and larger than BGS.

Also the people spending hundreds of dollars are the ones that know exactly what they're doing at this point. You don't have to spend more than $45 and you shouldn't even be doing that without at least playing it during one of the multiple free trial periods they have every year

Over 600 Developers....
Over $50 million a year salaries....


And yet not able to deliver since 2010......

Full development started in 2012 actually with a dozen people. They didn't have 600+ employees until 2020

[Leftcoast]

引用自 Deadoon：

This, star citizen has purchasable mtx that only has a guaranteed safe to use period of 6 months. After which it is up to you to remember to renew insurance on, which if forgotten you can lose the ship permanently.

Star citizen fanboys won't even listen to developer statements on this and will argue that it isn't true.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/SCW/14282-API

What happens if I don’t have insurance?
Your character will have to buy a new ship with any credits he has, or if he doesn’t have enough credits fly missions for a third party (both NPC and player) until he’s earned enough to buy his own ship again.

Yeah, you can become completely shipless if you mess up in a space sim, sounds like a lot of fun right?

Oh, and in starfield you make your own ship, with it's own layout and everything, not rely on someone else to give you what you want.

True, good to point out that this isn't a problem until the gamer launches which at this point will never happen as the game morfs into a scam.

Seriously people, do not spend any money on Star Citizen. If you must try it, waif for free fly, but do not give them any money. Chris Roberts already bought at least one mansion off backers money without delivering squat.

[Jonah Falcon]

引用自 Leftcoast：

引用自 Deadoon：

This, star citizen has purchasable mtx that only has a guaranteed safe to use period of 6 months. After which it is up to you to remember to renew insurance on, which if forgotten you can lose the ship permanently.

Star citizen fanboys won't even listen to developer statements on this and will argue that it isn't true.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/SCW/14282-API

Yeah, you can become completely shipless if you mess up in a space sim, sounds like a lot of fun right?

Oh, and in starfield you make your own ship, with it's own layout and everything, not rely on someone else to give you what you want.

True, good to point out that this isn't a problem until the gamer launches which at this point will never happen as the game morfs into a scam.

Seriously people, do not spend any money on Star Citizen. If you must try it, waif for free fly, but do not give them any money. Chris Roberts already bought at least one mansion off backers money without delivering squat.

Didn't deliver anything?

https://www.youtube.com/@Morphologis

He goes on raids with his friends in Star Citizen. He's just started covering Starfield, too.

[-={LG}=-]

引用自 Jonah Falcon：

I'm looking forward to Squadron 42, personally.

You're waiting for the game they mysteriously pulled from their website. Mkay.

引用自 Jonah Falcon：

It's not vaporware, as friends of mine are enjoying playing it right now.

Really. What was the date of retail release? I must have missed it...

[Leftcoast]

引用自 -OrLoK- Слава Україн：

is that true though?

does pvp really permeate the entire game, including Squadron 42 with zero opt out?

However you feel, it is wise to wait for Star Citizen to launch a real game before giving them money.

Technically yes, PvP does permeate the entire game. However, it sooooo huge even with one small system that it's very easy to avoid PvP.

Now, you will here a lot of people making it sound like "griefers are everywhere", however that is not true. I year or so ago I mined for hella days to fill a large ship with the most expensive mineral and then hauled it selling for millions of credits and never ran into a single player during that whole experiment.

[Jonah Falcon]

引用自 -={LG}=-：

引用自 Jonah Falcon：

I'm looking forward to Squadron 42, personally.

You're waiting for the game they mysteriously pulled from their website. Mkay.

Well, you're blocked, mmmmkay?

I have little tolerance for children with no social skills.

[Leftcoast]

引用自 patrick68794：

Lol CIG has over 600 developers and pay over $50 million a year in salaries. They're not "relatively small," they're the size of most AAA studios and larger than BGS.

Also the people spending hundreds of dollars are the ones that know exactly what they're doing at this point. You don't have to spend more than $45 and you shouldn't even be doing that without at least playing it during one of the multiple free trial periods they have every year

History will tell. Right now it looks like CIG is using those employees to milk people for digital ships and just enough progress to keep the hype train going. I still think they intend to deliver, it's just that Chris Roberts is both horribly incompetent and couple that with his digital ship cash cow, sadly CIG has no incentive to deliver.