To people who say Nicole Brennan looks old and ugly...

[Vegasskill]

Ok, few key facts.

1) We don't know how old she is
2) She is not 28 nor 39
3) She is a medical officer on a mining star ship. She is not a model!!!
4) Isaac is 47 years old (born in 2461. DS1 takes place in 2508)

One developer said in some video(supposedly) that Nicole is in her early 40s. 43 perhaps???
But we simply don't know for sure. None game sources exactly state her age.

So stop being ignorant.

[mark1971]

My guess is that is was intended to create attention for marketing purposes. It stimulated lots of discussions already before the release of Dead Space.

Tanya Clarke, the voice actor of Nicole, is a good looking woman but ingame she does not look like her. In contrast to Gunner Wright, the voice actor of Isaac which was obviously assumed for facial design. This second step shows me that it was done by purpose.

I'm not troubled by Nicoles artistic interpretation. It's not relevant. But it worked, as intended, as marketing.

[xnamxoutlawx]

Blazin Hazen a écrit :

xnamxoutlawx a écrit :

Yeah I'm toxic because I'm calling a person who is calling other people ignorant when he is just as ignorant. If he doesn't want to look a fool he should learn to write better. Calling someone out on something is toxic? Then I guess that's what it is then.

I was actually on your side there buddy. We're on the same side.

Lol sorry kind of hard to tell, maybe next time add a I agree or something.

[Blazin Hazen]

xnamxoutlawx a écrit :

Blazin Hazen a écrit :

I was actually on your side there buddy. We're on the same side.

Lol sorry kind of hard to tell, maybe next time add a I agree or something.

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[koosa_]

You can tell some ugly blue haired b*tch with sand in her vagina meddled with this game.

[RickJones]

Let's see:

- girlfriend suddenly looks like she orders from the senior citizen's menu - check
- girlfriend tells you self-righteously to go to hell and you still go chasing after her - check
- suddenly every second character is gay - check
- multiple characters and imagery race-swapped - check

Yeah I think it's a pretty safe bet this game had some woke intervention. The main writer is a woman whose previous credits include Mass Effect Andromeda. And she's retweeting stuff from a "non-binary" person patting themselves on the back for seeing their writing in the game. Because everyone knows all the best writers buy into gender nonsense and immediately post clips of their writing in a game to their Twitter followers. You can just imagine the hiring practices going on there.

[SpielSatzFail]

RickJones a écrit :

- girlfriend suddenly looks like she orders from the senior citizen's menu - check
- girlfriend tells you self-righteously to go to hell and you still go chasing after her - check
- suddenly every second character is gay - check

Maybe it's a message to Isaac to better become gay too ;D

[S1mon_Phoenix]

This wokeness cancer infects everything. I noticed it immediately. Every Female looks old and ugly now. The 2008 models look better. Why do Diversity hires do this? Do good looking Women not exist in their Woke World? Im sure mods will fix it.

[Nexusshark]

RickJones a écrit :

Let's see:

- girlfriend suddenly looks like she orders from the senior citizen's menu - check
- girlfriend tells you self-righteously to go to hell and you still go chasing after her - check
- suddenly every second character is gay - check
- multiple characters and imagery race-swapped - check

Yeah I think it's a pretty safe bet this game had some woke intervention. The main writer is a woman whose previous credits include Mass Effect Andromeda. And she's retweeting stuff from a "non-binary" person patting themselves on the back for seeing their writing in the game. Because everyone knows all the best writers buy into gender nonsense and immediately post clips of their writing in a game to their Twitter followers. You can just imagine the hiring practices going on there.

Great... So they made Nicole ugly on the outside *and* the inside.

[It´sAllAimAssist]

watched that scene on youtube, modern writing, everyone is unable to control their emotions and lashes out which then causes whoever they are talking to to lash out in return.
I mean Isaac talking to Nicole about his parents.
I mean ok she lashed out, but cutting the feed...really.

And at the same time when they are dealing with an actual physical threat of being ripped apart by space zombies they have the emotional intensity of drywall.
especially Hammond and Kendra, in the original they sound like two people struggling to keep it together from the start and in the remake at least the scenes I watched they sound like office managers getting told their floor is running out of printer paper.

[Soren]

Nexusshark a écrit :

Because video games are a form of escapism. And most people don't need their video games to be "realistic", least of all a girlfriend that looks like a grandma.

Realism is actually quite an important element when trying to invoke immersion. And immersion is necessary for survival horror to seem more scary. Sorry, if you're hanging out with hatsune miku in the zombie apocalypse it just isn't as scary since it isn't as believable.

Nexusshark a écrit :

Especially when they originally didn't look that way. Nobody plays video games to be reminded of what they don't want to see in video games. I can guarantee you that nobody complained that Nicole looked "unrealistic" or "too pretty" back in 2008, and those who did were usually feminists.

They just used the mocap performance of the actual actor who played Nicole in Dead Space 2. You know what some fans appreciate. When the same actors reprise their roles. The fact claptrap was replaced in BL3 was just off putting and not preferred by me in the slightest.

[It´sAllAimAssist]

Soren a écrit :

Nexusshark a écrit :

Because video games are a form of escapism. And most people don't need their video games to be "realistic", least of all a girlfriend that looks like a grandma.

Realism is actually quite an important element when trying to invoke immersion. And immersion is necessary for survival horror to seem more scary. Sorry, if you're hanging out with hatsune miku in the zombie apocalypse it just isn't as scary since it isn't as believable.

Nexusshark a écrit :

Especially when they originally didn't look that way. Nobody plays video games to be reminded of what they don't want to see in video games. I can guarantee you that nobody complained that Nicole looked "unrealistic" or "too pretty" back in 2008, and those who did were usually feminists.

They just used the mocap performance of the actual actor who played Nicole in Dead Space 2. You know what some fans appreciate. When the same actors reprise their roles. The fact claptrap was replaced in BL3 was just off putting and not preferred by me in the slightest.

Your are saying unattractive women are necessary for immersion because attractive women are unrealistic?

for the umptenth time the voice actress is more attractive than the ingame model and she isn´t reprising her role as she wasn´t the voice actor for the first dead space.

Lyari Limon was the voice actress and model for Nicole in the first dead space.
And you can do little touches on a in game model to make it more or less attractive and feminine, older or younger.
This was a choice to make her unattractive and nothing else.

[Nexusshark]

Soren a écrit :

Nexusshark a écrit :

Because video games are a form of escapism. And most people don't need their video games to be "realistic", least of all a girlfriend that looks like a grandma.

Realism is actually quite an important element when trying to invoke immersion. And immersion is necessary for survival horror to seem more scary. Sorry, if you're hanging out with hatsune miku in the zombie apocalypse it just isn't as scary since it isn't as believable.

Nexusshark a écrit :

Especially when they originally didn't look that way. Nobody plays video games to be reminded of what they don't want to see in video games. I can guarantee you that nobody complained that Nicole looked "unrealistic" or "too pretty" back in 2008, and those who did were usually feminists.

They just used the mocap performance of the actual actor who played Nicole in Dead Space 2. You know what some fans appreciate. When the same actors reprise their roles. The fact claptrap was replaced in BL3 was just off putting and not preferred by me in the slightest.

The original Nicole looked like Hatsune Miku to you?? Hm... 😏

And this isn't Dead Space 2. Even then DS2 Nicole and the VA herself look MUCH more attractive than this old hag in the remake.

You see, most of us were already quite immersed in the original. And not even a single idiot was thinking that their immersion would improve if Nicole was looking like a grandma, BECAUCE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EFFING IMMERSION!!

Now... I understand you're trying to play devil's advocate, but your way of doing that is just trying to come up with all kinds of excuses and distractions. Or maybe you're just trying to farm for clown points. In any case you seem very disingenious, so don't expect me to take you seriously.

[Nexusshark]

MadHamster a écrit :

Nexusshark a écrit :

This version of Nicole looks waaay beyond 30 though. 40 year old women look a lot better than that. And I'm not american.

Not every single one of them. Especially, from certain countries and ethnic groups.

So what?? Doesn't mean Nicole must look like a grandma now.

[IMStarker]

Vegasskill a écrit :

Ok, few key facts.

1) We don't know how old she is
2) She is not 28 nor 39
3) She is a medical officer on a mining star ship. She is not a model!!!
4) Isaac is 47 years old (born in 2461. DS1 takes place in 2508)

One developer said in some video(supposedly) that Nicole is in her early 40s. 43 perhaps???
But we simply don't know for sure. None game sources exactly state her age.

So stop being ignorant.

Time in space is slower, they both Isaac and Nicole met at the same age, but Nicole has aged slower than him, so she looks younger by logic.

[Velber]

HellSlayer a écrit :

Nexusshark a écrit :

Because video games are a form of escapism. And most people don't need their video games to be "realistic", least of all a girlfriend that looks like a grandma. Especially when they originally didn't look that way. Nobody plays video games to be reminded of what they don't want to see in video games. I can guarantee you that nobody complained that Nicole looked "unrealistic" or "too pretty" back in 2008, and those who did were usually feminists.

Its partly. video games are suppose to be better or prettier than real life because why the f.. we would play as obese 1000lbs woman which has shaven hair and no teeth and with lazy eye? Its an example.. but nobody would.. protagonists are suppose to be welcoming, not gross and disgusting and repulsive.

fallout 4 - imagine if they released that game and the pet dog you find early ingame was not some nice awesome shepard but some 3legged gross disgusting shaved dog which has pig tail and 3 ears?

Nobody wants to look at that.. nobody really. Its repulsive. These are just examples i wrote for those who dont understand the bigger picture.

Id want that dog…