Some insight & advice for the dev

[EthicalPixel]

I dont like talking about this very much but what good does my crappy life experience do for others if i keep it bottled up.
I went to prison for robbing banks in what now seems like another life. So i will give you some feedback as to what to expect and the path you should try to get on.

Hopefully you are going to state or fed because county jail sucks.
Once you get there you will answer a variety of questions and get seen by a nurse once that is done they will move you to "new man" where you will have very limited movement locked in your cell for 23 hours a day only coming out for shower, meals and nurse. This will last for usually no longer than a week. You will remain there until you get classified and its in my opinion you should tell them you have a drinking or drug problem so you can be moved to a block (drug unit) that has access to special programs that will help you when parole comes around as well as good time credits.

Even if your sentence is mando its still a good idea to go to whats called a workers block or a program block because those are usually less hostile environments because everyone there has something to lose especially the workers block where you get special treatment when compared to the rest of the population.

Workers block houses all the workers of the jail. These guys not only get special food from time to time but also access to certain parts of the jail that most cons never get to see, these workers are usually paid around 2 bucks a day which doesnt sound like a lot on the surface but its a godsend when having nobody on the outside to fill your canteen.
Just like the drug unit you also get good time as a worker.
You have a great chance at becoming one because they love first timers probably because they arent broken in convicts yet. As long as you dont have any escape charges you should be able to get a job within the first 6 months but you have to hound them and be up their arse because thats the only way the needle moves in there persistence.

I used to work laundry and had it made. I had access to unlimited real pots of coffee and got to spend my entire day outside the cell, after a while the c.o gets to trust you and will start giving you some approved contraband like a pizza every blue moon (usually holidays)
it was nice being able to wash my stuff separately and travel to every block in the jail which opens an opportunity for a side hustle but unfortunately one of the new workers that got assigned as my partner tried to pass a soon to be lifer a handcuff key got caught and we ended up getting the full attempted escapee treatment.

Kitchen job is usually the easiest one to get and thats because the turnover rate is the highest from people getting fired from trying to bring food back to the block or quitting because it can suck at the bottom of the totem pole (wash dishes).
If you have a specialty like you are good at cutting hair you can do very good for yourself, barber usually makes a buck or two tip for every cut.
Best jobs are custodian/plumber, barber, laundry, library, med unit cleaner, and co's kitchen. A lot of jails now have computer stuff so tell them you are good with software and computers immediately! tell them at the initial intake and keep telling them.

Its important to not get involved with people who are up to bad things because you have no choice but to take the fall with them if crap hits the fan. You cant tell on them unless you want to live among pedos in pc.
Something bad goes down you have to plead the 5th no matter what.

Stay far away from drugs. It always leads to problem. Gambling too although I gambled every chance I got i would only gamble what i could afford to lose, jail is a bad place to have debts.

Workers unit is what should be at the forefront of your mind when you walk in and every time you wake up in the morning until you get a job. I cant emphasize how important this will be not just for wage and good time but most importantly for mental well being, time seems to move quicker when busy and being able to avoid being locked in the tiny box all day long in itself makes it worth it. I would do both the drug program and workers unit if were you.
If you have a 209a (domestic) they will have certain programs for that too and im not sure if its mandatory.


Wear two white tshirts and two white boxers, a grey sweatsuit as well as grey thermals when sentenced.

You might not be able to keep the grays if sentenced to county but you will almost certainly be allowed to keep the extra tshirts and boxers which will be huge because you wont have jack until about a month maybe even longer if you get out of new man near canteen order slip day (how the handle canteen will differ in places. some places give you a slip to fill out a week or so in advance and then everyone takes turns picking up premade bags and some places handle like a regular store where you go up to window and order while using a laundry bag to hold the items.

[Tetsujin]

I just wanted to show my support for the developer, this thread appeared to be a good place to provide that and what I intend to say.
Whatever has past, Whatever your looking towards now, it is what you do in the present that counts.
And it appears you have been doing well, this title has been received very well and the community cannot wait for you to resume work on it.
Your using your gifts well, your on a good path, your adding to Society and culture.

I do not know if this is the first custodial sentence you have faced, but you cannot be looking forward to.it Whatever your experience.

I myself spent 6 months inside, I was remanded following charges and waited almost a full 6 months for my trial to start.
Although I was confident throughout, it was still highly stressful right up until the jury declared me unanimously Not Guilty of all charges.
I found good employment while inside, i actually was able to teach mathematics along side the official tutor, having meaningful work made all the difference to my mental health, doing something skilled and for the benefit of others kept me strong.

So serve your time, get it done then come back to us, you are respected and wanted.

[Vanta]

For what it's worth, I am pretty sure dev isn't in America, but I hope some of this advice will be helpful

[MM]

Dear Dev,

Some great posts here. Especially the first.

I don't know for how long you are going away for, I commend the way you wrote about the whole thing, you did not shift blame on anyone but yourself. From what I have witnessed, especially when it comes to crimes of a violent nature BEFORE the person in question has accutaly spent some time in prison, admitting guilt is rare. Well, with men anyways.

Put everything this game is in files one a safe device(temperature shock ect proof) and hide it well. Delete everything else and smash the drives. Leave nothing to chance.

Then wait.

Likely, when you come back out, the world will be quite different.
Donald Trump and his followers will have done what ever the hell it is they want to do and society will have shifted accordingly.
My guess is that everyone will be far less well off for it in the end.
So having a project like this, to dust off is a good deal for anyone.
Who KNOWS where the dollar will stand in two years from now?

Work on localisation(s), seize all available markets.
You can still profit from income of other currencies. Unless the whole world goes to ****
Dream up fun game ideas and find all available ways to lower cpu/gpu overhead.
Make mobile versions. Some money will come in.


Maybe this IS the best thing that can happen to you. What if you had earned the money now and, in twenty four months, that money will have, through devaluation and inflation turns out to be barely enough to buy a sack of a pair of socks.

Manage it. You have to. So you will. That is what your brain was made for.
New situations. Learning. Solving problems. Flexibility. Adaption. Those ARE its elements.

[Swamp Fox]

Yo that's crazy that you went to prison for robbing banks. How'd you slip up?

[iOii0i]

People go to prison every day.

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy to me that everyone here is actually on the dev's side. She ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ assaulted somoene so badly that she's going to prison for 3 years, and you're all acting like she's the one that got assaulted. I feel like I'm in the Twilight zone or something. She's not a victim, she's the literal offender.

[Toastman]

Originally posted by World's Strongest Man 1984:

It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy to me that everyone here is actually on the dev's side. She ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ assaulted somoene so badly that she's going to prison for 3 years, and you're all acting like she's the one that got assaulted. I feel like I'm in the Twilight zone or something. She's not a victim, she's the literal offender.

People don't know the details of the case. Is everything public record? I'd like to read more about it.

[Discussions_Acc]

Originally posted by World's Strongest Man 1984:

It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy to me that everyone here is actually on the dev's side. She ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ assaulted somoene so badly that she's going to prison for 3 years, and you're all acting like she's the one that got assaulted. I feel like I'm in the Twilight zone or something. She's not a victim, she's the literal offender.

That happened to someone else so why would they care? A game they like is much more important.

[♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠]

Originally posted by Discussions_Acc:

Originally posted by World's Strongest Man 1984:

It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy to me that everyone here is actually on the dev's side. She ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ assaulted somoene so badly that she's going to prison for 3 years, and you're all acting like she's the one that got assaulted. I feel like I'm in the Twilight zone or something. She's not a victim, she's the literal offender.

That happened to someone else so why would they care? A game they like is much more important.

This is the problem. People got their priorities crossed.

If you don't care, then when it happens to you no one will care either. Why get out of the way of the ambo on its way to save someone, and then when you're dying and calling for one, it won't arrive in time either. That's not a place you want to be, believe me.

[Bankai9212]

I think outside of records we have little context on something that happened years ago. Thing is people like this game and want it to be finished and it’s obvious the dev wants to do that. But do to past mistakes in going to prison for it. Me and others would prefer to have the game finished short of a miracle the dev stated they may not be able to finished once out. That’s if anyone will still be interested by that point.

[New Adventurer]

Originally posted by EthicalPixel:

I dont like talking about this very much but what good does my crappy life experience do for others if i keep it bottled up.
I went to prison for robbing banks in what now seems like another life. So i will give you some feedback as to what to expect and the path you should try to get on.

Hopefully you are going to state or fed because county jail sucks.
Once you get there you will answer a variety of questions and get seen by a nurse once that is done they will move you to "new man" where you will have very limited movement locked in your cell for 23 hours a day only coming out for shower, meals and nurse. This will last for usually no longer than a week. You will remain there until you get classified and its in my opinion you should tell them you have a drinking or drug problem so you can be moved to a block (drug unit) that has access to special programs that will help you when parole comes around as well as good time credits.

Even if your sentence is mando its still a good idea to go to whats called a workers block or a program block because those are usually less hostile environments because everyone there has something to lose especially the workers block where you get special treatment when compared to the rest of the population.

Workers block houses all the workers of the jail. These guys not only get special food from time to time but also access to certain parts of the jail that most cons never get to see, these workers are usually paid around 2 bucks a day which doesnt sound like a lot on the surface but its a godsend when having nobody on the outside to fill your canteen.
Just like the drug unit you also get good time as a worker.
You have a great chance at becoming one because they love first timers probably because they arent broken in convicts yet. As long as you dont have any escape charges you should be able to get a job within the first 6 months but you have to hound them and be up their arse because thats the only way the needle moves in there persistence.

I used to work laundry and had it made. I had access to unlimited real pots of coffee and got to spend my entire day outside the cell, after a while the c.o gets to trust you and will start giving you some approved contraband like a pizza every blue moon (usually holidays)
it was nice being able to wash my stuff separately and travel to every block in the jail which opens an opportunity for a side hustle but unfortunately one of the new workers that got assigned as my partner tried to pass a soon to be lifer a handcuff key got caught and we ended up getting the full attempted escapee treatment.

Kitchen job is usually the easiest one to get and thats because the turnover rate is the highest from people getting fired from trying to bring food back to the block or quitting because it can suck at the bottom of the totem pole (wash dishes).
If you have a specialty like you are good at cutting hair you can do very good for yourself, barber usually makes a buck or two tip for every cut.
Best jobs are custodian/plumber, barber, laundry, library, med unit cleaner, and co's kitchen. A lot of jails now have computer stuff so tell them you are good with software and computers immediately! tell them at the initial intake and keep telling them.

Its important to not get involved with people who are up to bad things because you have no choice but to take the fall with them if crap hits the fan. You cant tell on them unless you want to live among pedos in pc.
Something bad goes down you have to plead the 5th no matter what.

Stay far away from drugs. It always leads to problem. Gambling too although I gambled every chance I got i would only gamble what i could afford to lose, jail is a bad place to have debts.

Workers unit is what should be at the forefront of your mind when you walk in and every time you wake up in the morning until you get a job. I cant emphasize how important this will be not just for wage and good time but most importantly for mental well being, time seems to move quicker when busy and being able to avoid being locked in the tiny box all day long in itself makes it worth it. I would do both the drug program and workers unit if were you.
If you have a 209a (domestic) they will have certain programs for that too and im not sure if its mandatory.


Wear two white tshirts and two white boxers, a grey sweatsuit as well as grey thermals when sentenced.

You might not be able to keep the grays if sentenced to county but you will almost certainly be allowed to keep the extra tshirts and boxers which will be huge because you wont have jack until about a month maybe even longer if you get out of new man near canteen order slip day (how the handle canteen will differ in places. some places give you a slip to fill out a week or so in advance and then everyone takes turns picking up premade bags and some places handle like a regular store where you go up to window and order while using a laundry bag to hold the items.

Sorry for quoting your entire post but man you gave some great advice and showed that there's a way out of the black pit the dev dug himself into. Really, I mean it. Awesome post.

But since the dev said this: "the sentence isn’t going to help with that at all, but I guess we all know that.”
(Talking about his violent tendencies)

It makes me wonder if he even wants a better life at all!!

I know some jagoff will say "of course he does! How dare you?!" (Greta impersonation) To which I'll say then he should understand why he's being closed off from society. Everyone has the chance to become a better person and it starts with acknowledging his mistakes and accepting punishment.

Yes I know he's accepted punishment now. I meant he shouldn't have written off the help prison time will give him. Saying "prison time won't help me" easily turns into "the law system/society is to blame". I'm so sick of that mentality.

Here's hoping the devs future life improves. Both during and after prison. Don't give up

[Stahlfrau]

Originally posted by New Adventurer:

Saying "prison time won't help me" easily turns into "the law system/society is to blame". I'm so sick of that mentality.

Almost like it's a real problem and you're sick of people pointing out actual societal issues.
Presuming the dev is american, the USA prisons are known to be both violent and very unsuccessful in terms of rehabilitating inmates into law-abiding citizens when compared to prisons worldwide. To the point that I, a non-american, have heard many times that inmates almost have to join a prison gang for safety reasons, and that, ofc, won't help with the violence problem.

[New Adventurer]

dont do the crime if you cant do the time, simple as that. l also love being lectured about our law enforcement by outsiders :D

wana point out flaws? then be specific. dont just say 'it doesnt work" without saying why. spell it out. get a dialogue going.

[Team Fortune Dev]

Originally posted by New Adventurer:

dont do the crime if you cant do the time, simple as that. l also love being lectured about our law enforcement by outsiders :D

wana point out flaws? then be specific. dont just say 'it doesnt work" without saying why. spell it out. get a dialogue going.

It doesn't work because it generally makes people more likely to be violent or commit crimes.

Not everyone. Actually, ♥♥♥♥, the Canadian government did a big study into this. They found that for low-grade offenders who have a lot to lose, job, family and such, then punishment as a deterrent works quite well!

The problem is that once you put someone in level 4 for years, they disconnect from normal society type thoughts completely. This is what happened to me. I became a really weird, completely unhinged person. The first time I got arrested I had never been in a fight. By the time I caught my current case, fighting was the only way I knew how to resolve my problems. I no longer believed that humans were capable of compassion and that words could solve my problems. I was stuck in the prison mind-set. I was unbelievably lucky to be surrounded by people who were patient and compassionate and willing to teach me that this was not the way to live, and that it was possible to do much better.

Rehabilitation is really important and our current system doesn't focus on that enough. At the same time, some people are genuinely dangerous and they need to be isolated from society so they don't start running around hurting others. The difficult part is figuring out which is which, and I completely understand why the overloaded prison system can't sort it out. It's a very, very hard problem. People lie, they manipulate, how can you take people at their word when they say that they've changed?

At any rate, I just think that the way that things work now is not optimal. I've seen too many people become horribly dangerous just because of the environments they were put in. I think we need to address that. The solution is not to abolish prisons or fire all the cops. But there needs to be reforms, unless you want things to continue as they are, which is to say not very well.

At the same time, I accept my sentence. It's OK. Things are as they are and I am willing to face my actions. I just don't believe that this will help. I don't wish this upon the next person. I'll report and I'll do my time, but I hope that eventually another person doesn't have to do this, because it's bad. It makes them worse, more dangerous, more likely to hurt again. I want people to become better, not learn how to be bad more effectively.

[New Adventurer]

Originally posted by Team Fortune Dev:

Originally posted by New Adventurer:

dont do the crime if you cant do the time, simple as that. l also love being lectured about our law enforcement by outsiders :D

wana point out flaws? then be specific. dont just say 'it doesnt work" without saying why. spell it out. get a dialogue going.

It doesn't work because it generally makes people more likely to be violent or commit crimes.

Not everyone. Actually, ♥♥♥♥, the Canadian government did a big study into this. They found that for low-grade offenders who have a lot to lose, job, family and such, then punishment as a deterrent works quite well!

The problem is that once you put someone in level 4 for years, they disconnect from normal society type thoughts completely. This is what happened to me. I became a really weird, completely unhinged person. The first time I got arrested I had never been in a fight. By the time I caught my current case, fighting was the only way I knew how to resolve my problems. I no longer believed that humans were capable of compassion and that words could solve my problems. I was stuck in the prison mind-set. I was unbelievably lucky to be surrounded by people who were patient and compassionate and willing to teach me that this was not the way to live, and that it was possible to do much better.

Rehabilitation is really important and our current system doesn't focus on that enough. At the same time, some people are genuinely dangerous and they need to be isolated from society so they don't start running around hurting others. The difficult part is figuring out which is which, and I completely understand why the overloaded prison system can't sort it out. It's a very, very hard problem. People lie, they manipulate, how can you take people at their word when they say that they've changed?

At any rate, I just think that the way that things work now is not optimal. I've seen too many people become horribly dangerous just because of the environments they were put in. I think we need to address that. The solution is not to abolish prisons or fire all the cops. But there needs to be reforms, unless you want things to continue as they are, which is to say not very well.

At the same time, I accept my sentence. It's OK. Things are as they are and I am willing to face my actions. I just don't believe that this will help. I don't wish this upon the next person. I'll report and I'll do my time, but I hope that eventually another person doesn't have to do this, because it's bad. It makes them worse, more dangerous, more likely to hurt again. I want people to become better, not learn how to be bad more effectively.

YES THANK YOU!! Its unbelievably difficult to get anyone to articulate what exactly they don't like about the prison system and its many short comings. I wish stahlfrau had your patience to type out their issues with the prison system. Its so easy to hate on authority especially if the person is from another country where they might have experienced genuine oppression from past tyrannical governments. Old wounds run deep as they say.

I appreciate your patience with reading all this talk about you and your patience with me in explaining your stance about the prison system. I genuinely hope you hang in there. Your attitude brings me hope for the future.