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vel Mar 21, 2023 @ 9:42pm
Why do you sprint with gun up?
what the ♥♥♥♥ ground branch
Originally posted by KrisRedbeard:
Been discussed before.
The old animation was down.
The new animation is up.
Think it blended in better and such too.
Can't recall.
Discussed how we might end up making it a preference, like low or high ready.

In any case, please keep the discussion civil.
Reduce the hostility.

Thank you.
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NeverADullDoor Mar 21, 2023 @ 11:09pm 
Because it's a good way to not flag/ND your teammates or yourself if you trip as you're sprinting around?

Ultimately, IRL, how you hold a rifle while you sprint in combat is very context (and personal preference) dependent; context for which there's no real way to program everything for in a video game. Sprinting with the rifle at high ready/high port is a pretty good, militarily accepted, universal animation. Just because it's how they animate the sprinting in CoD as well doesn't automatically make it wrong.
Last edited by NeverADullDoor; Mar 21, 2023 @ 11:17pm
Alumenad Mar 22, 2023 @ 12:11am 
Originally posted by ta:
what the ♥♥♥♥ ground branch

Cause dudes are tactical.
Snipeyguy Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:06am 
You wanna sprint with your gun sticking sideways in front of your torso or what? IRL You´d be hitting almost anything while running like that. Best option would be low ready though, no chance of hitting tree branches or anything else. Imagine running through a doorframe only to get smacked on your backside cause your gun blocked you from moving. :crashbcoot:
vel Mar 22, 2023 @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by Snipeyguy:
You wanna sprint with your gun sticking sideways in front of your torso or what? IRL You´d be hitting almost anything while running like that. Best option would be low ready though, no chance of hitting tree branches or anything else. Imagine running through a doorframe only to get smacked on your backside cause your gun blocked you from moving. :crashbcoot:
actual brainlet not even going to explain it

Originally posted by NeverADullDoor:
Because it's a good way to not flag/ND your teammates or yourself if you trip as you're sprinting around?

Ultimately, IRL, how you hold a rifle while you sprint in combat is very context (and personal preference) dependent; context for which there's no real way to program everything for in a video game. Sprinting with the rifle at high ready/high port is a pretty good, militarily accepted, universal animation. Just because it's how they animate the sprinting in CoD as well doesn't automatically make it wrong.

describe some account when a soldier was running with their gun on 1 hand pointing up before shooting at someone when they were expecting to be shot at because they're in a battle, or tell me any effective or top shot shooter who does that even in sports competitions which is not even a battle scenario

Originally posted by Alumenad:
Originally posted by ta:
what the ♥♥♥♥ ground branch

Cause dudes are tactical.
what is up with people always saying tactical without even knowing what is tactical
Last edited by vel; Mar 22, 2023 @ 7:18pm
vel Mar 22, 2023 @ 7:21pm 
"if you trip as you're sprinting around?"
you are in a shoot out with someone and so your first thing is to migitate falling down and shooting someone, but thats not even correct, what if someone runs in front of you while you fall and you discharge in front of you anyways. So that's just strawman.
Last edited by vel; Mar 22, 2023 @ 7:23pm
vel Mar 22, 2023 @ 7:30pm 
" Just because it's how they animate the sprinting in CoD "
not even saying the OG game with gun up sprinting that is Ghost Recon Future soldier
Viviana Mar 22, 2023 @ 7:38pm 
We were literally taught to sprint with a gun that way in the military.
Nerv Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:45pm 
Originally posted by ta:
what the ♥♥♥♥ ground branch
Because we don't swing our gun in front of us like idiots while sprinting in this game or in real life. This isn't COD or any regular trash fps game.
Last edited by Nerv; Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:46pm
NeverADullDoor Mar 22, 2023 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by ta:
describe some account when a soldier was running with their gun on 1 hand pointing up before shooting at someone when they were expecting to be shot at because they're in a battle, or tell me any effective or top shot shooter who does that even in sports competitions which is not even a battle scenario

In general, during a firefight you want to be sprinting as little as possible, because sprinting usually means breaking cover. So if you do have to sprint somewhere, it's usually to some other piece of cover, i.e., you're not expecting to have to engage a target within milliseconds of arriving, and your teammates are preferably putting down suppressing fire while you move. Once you're back in cover, then you pop out to reengage targets at your (relative) leisure. If you wind up sprinting into an immediate close quarters gun fight, you've probably ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up somewhere along the line.

There is a way to hold a rifle out in front of you so you can engage more quickly after sprinting, but I typically only see guys doing that for short 5-10 meter bursts of movement. You can see both in this video as he transitions from dead sprint to getting ready to fire:

https://youtu.be/H9ZNpOOHwXY

And while it'd be cool to see transitions between both carries while sprinting, it seems like it'd also be something difficult to animate/time while not looking jank. In game, I just use the jogging mode when I need short bursts of speed.

"if you trip as you're sprinting around?"
you are in a shoot out with someone and so your first thing is to migitate falling down and shooting someone, but thats not even correct, what if someone runs in front of you while you fall and you discharge in front of you anyways. So that's just strawman.

I mean, if you wanna call trying to drill basic firearm safety into soldiers while they train a strawman, go right ahead, I guess. Although, one might point out that an actual example of a strawman would be to assume that every adult who trips winds up face planting like a toddler.
vel Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by NeverADullDoor:
Originally posted by ta:
describe some account when a soldier was running with their gun on 1 hand pointing up before shooting at someone when they were expecting to be shot at because they're in a battle, or tell me any effective or top shot shooter who does that even in sports competitions which is not even a battle scenario

In general, during a firefight you want to be sprinting as little as possible, because sprinting usually means breaking cover. So if you do have to sprint somewhere, it's usually to some other piece of cover, i.e., you're not expecting to have to engage a target within milliseconds of arriving, and your teammates are preferably putting down suppressing fire while you move. Once you're back in cover, then you pop out to reengage targets at your (relative) leisure. If you wind up sprinting into an immediate close quarters gun fight, you've probably ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up somewhere along the line.

There is a way to hold a rifle out in front of you so you can engage more quickly after sprinting, but I typically only see guys doing that for short 5-10 meter bursts of movement. You can see both in this video as he transitions from dead sprint to getting ready to fire:

https://youtu.be/H9ZNpOOHwXY

And while it'd be cool to see transitions between both carries while sprinting, it seems like it'd also be something difficult to animate/time while not looking jank. In game, I just use the jogging mode when I need short bursts of speed.

"if you trip as you're sprinting around?"
you are in a shoot out with someone and so your first thing is to migitate falling down and shooting someone, but thats not even correct, what if someone runs in front of you while you fall and you discharge in front of you anyways. So that's just strawman.

I mean, if you wanna call trying to drill basic firearm safety into soldiers while they train a strawman, go right ahead, I guess. Although, one might point out that an actual example of a strawman would be to assume that every adult who trips winds up face planting like a toddler.

what the ♥♥♥♥ is this giant essay and the lecture about your bad opinion and bad theory. I've had enough of ground branch's threads. Unless if the devs know the people in the real life counterparts for this game they're making, that settles it for me. Adding their aesthetic to the gameplay. So I won't be wasting anymore time with random people who have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ no clue what they're talking about
Last edited by vel; Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:20am
vel Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by Tomas:
We were literally taught to sprint with a gun that way in the military.
what group taught that way of sprinting with your gun up in one hand and what year was that. I just want to see how this started
Last edited by vel; Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:28am
NeverADullDoor Mar 23, 2023 @ 1:09am 
Originally posted by ta:
what the ♥♥♥♥ is this giant essay and the lecture about your bad opinion and bad theory. I've had enough of ground branch's threads. Unless if the devs know the people in the real life counterparts for this game they're making, that settles it for me. Adding their aesthetic to the gameplay. So I won't be wasting anymore time with random people who have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ no clue what they're talking about

Creates discussion thread; refuses to engage in discussion.
My fault for expecting something intelligent to happen I guess.
Riusma Mar 23, 2023 @ 1:18am 
You can sprint while crouching if you want your gun to be down... :|
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
KrisRedbeard  [developer] Mar 23, 2023 @ 1:46am 
Been discussed before.
The old animation was down.
The new animation is up.
Think it blended in better and such too.
Can't recall.
Discussed how we might end up making it a preference, like low or high ready.

In any case, please keep the discussion civil.
Reduce the hostility.

Thank you.
vel Mar 23, 2023 @ 4:40am 
Originally posted by NeverADullDoor:
Originally posted by ta:
what the ♥♥♥♥ is this giant essay and the lecture about your bad opinion and bad theory. I've had enough of ground branch's threads. Unless if the devs know the people in the real life counterparts for this game they're making, that settles it for me. Adding their aesthetic to the gameplay. So I won't be wasting anymore time with random people who have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ no clue what they're talking about

Creates discussion thread; refuses to engage in discussion.
My fault for expecting something intelligent to happen I guess.
In your false academia spasm, what you have considered """""intelligent"""" projecting how bad you're at running.


Originally posted by KrisRedbeard:
Been discussed before.
The old animation was down.
The new animation is up.
Think it blended in better and such too.
Can't recall.
Discussed how we might end up making it a preference, like low or high ready.

In any case, please keep the discussion civil.
Reduce the hostility.

Thank you.
reason: aesthetics

How are you running with the gun, do you mean pointing at your feet down or somewhere in front? Pointing "down" as opposed to pointing up doesn't mean anything except that the barrel is downwards someway
Last edited by vel; Mar 23, 2023 @ 4:48am
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