This is the WORST AI I have ever seen in a game.

[pitrogg]

It is borderline impossible to lose against this AI. I have 30+ games played and I won every single one, and I am a pretty mediocre/bad player in Table Top Simulator (15% win rate at best). I am winning even when not even aiming for VP, but doing silly stuff like collecting all the bene geserit cards.
I just saw AI Helena playing Infiltrate before going to Carthag. She has infiltrate built-in! AI is playing additional swords in battles that it's already winning.. I don't know who's working on AI for this game but it's unplayable for anyone who has some basic experience in it. And there's not enough players to play online.

[Narcissistic Cannibal]

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AI is playing additional swords in battles that it's already winning

Although I don't agree that AI is bad (you can still lose when playing sub-optimally), this particular part is true. Quite often AI spends 2-3 battle cards in an obviously unwinnable combat and stays the weakest participant.
Something has to be done with this erratic behaviour.

[aversethule]

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Here's how to win every game.
1. T1 go stillsuits, put a troop or two especially if there's solari to win for 2-3 place. Go to Wealth for 2 solari. If there's spice to win, then go for spice and conflict.
2. T2 take spice & sell spice (if you took spice the round before and won some in the 1st conflict, go to sell spice imidiately). Buy SM
3. T3 Buy SM if you havent yet. The AI is too dumb to buy SM for a long time so now you have 1 extra move and you must try really hard to lose.

I've noticed that the AI always goes for stillsuits first as well, so if playing against 3 AI, your strats works 25% at best already from turn 1, agent 1.

[easytarget]

OP has lived a very sheltered life. But I do rather like his hat.

[pitrogg]

Update: AI is much better now. It's still hard to lose with it but at least it can happen if you're trying some weird new strat.

[Dire Wolf CS]

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Update: AI is much better now. It's still hard to lose with it but at least it can happen if you're trying some weird new strat.

Good to hear!

[the tim]

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Update: AI is much better now. It's still hard to lose with it but at least it can happen if you're trying some weird new strat.

Agree. And the op:s initial statement of there not being enough players only isnt really true anymore either. Several online games goes up in the public lobby and every 30 min there is a Ranked Match available where you almost always gets a 4p match and on some rare occassions you get a 3p game. And if you constantly beat the people in Ranked then heh well

[Ancient Toaster]

You must really be good because I lose to the AI all the time.

[the tim]

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You must really be good because I lose to the AI all the time.

A curveballish recommendation from me is to play pvp preferably Ranked. Mostly to see how you can play the game. That opened it up alot from me

[marttini7]

'House of Hagal' variant seems like an improvement to the original AI... i usually play against level 2 of Hagal and it's more difficult than the default medium CPU. Maybe the hard CPU (on default) can be better than Hagal level 2?? I don't know... but until now, i feel satisfied about the overall AI.

[Vertemouse]

The AI on Hard woops my ass on a regular basis.

[the tim]

Also. From playing more and more of this, to me gem of tactical game blizz, and the more I start to rapidly improve in my play. The more it reminds me of when I improved in playing Poker. Dune:Imperium (and Ix) are to me in many and all parts close to Poker.

Looking at how I feel I need to play now be able to win. With all of the factors I want to keep in mind and be able to adjust to on the drop of dime. That feels like alot-alot to put on an AI to accomplish :)

Does it continue to weird me dafaq out when I happen to time out in an online match. Oh very much so :D Im just trying to raise the question on what we want the AI to achive here and if that is then actually reasonable achievable?

If you did. Or they did make it so the AI always does exactly the same thing every time for everything. Then in the spirit of this game it would truely be the easiest opponent. If you want it to be unpredictable, as human players are, then will we not always get randomness at some level/s?

[OmegaOm]

then play PVP, why play AI anyway, makes no sense