Turn time nerfed to 90s, down from 3 min? Seriously? It was already way too short. Why not give an option?

[Keebz]

I do not like the sound of forced 90s turns and for me it kind of ruins my desire to play. I like playing this game as a slow-burn strategic game with IRL friends where we can shoot the breeze as we play. 90s isn't enough to think a few turns ahead unless you're maybe super good at this game. I honestly want an option for unlimited turn time especially in private matches. For online matches, it should be a vote. 90s, 3 mins, 5 min, or no limit.

And allow us to save mid match to pick up the game later, please!

[pether.pg]

4 player games took ages to complete, I like this change.

[Spectral B4dger]

Keebz if you think 90seconds are too short/fast you can always setup an async game. After all if you want to play with your friends I assume you can coordinate with them via discord/message etc etc. You can even save and continue at a later time. Async is a great option for flexibility!!

[RoF76]

I like this change very much.

[Kwame]

if the "thinkingtime" would be 3 Minutes it would be a max of 9 Minutes waiting in a 4-Player game until its your turn again - thats a lot of wasting time

[lucliu]

Agreed, should make the multiplayer turn timer as an option.

[snipe2004]

Standard 90 s is great! Compute yourself how long a game would be otherwise : 3 min * 3 agents * 4 players * 10 turns = 6 hours.... This change lowers it down to 3, which makes more sense to me. Plus, it is less boring to play in PvP. I hated it online, you don't have any interaction with other players, you just watch your screen sithout anything to do for 10 min each turn. Awful.
So, thanks devs for the change!

[Stormfrenzy88]

I'm pretty split on the change. On one hand there were some people that took 3 minutes every time and that was a bit annoying but on the other hand 90 seconds isn't always enough to make decisions.

Maybe add the ability to take extra time but limit it to like 3 times per game.

Also with the change the timer starts ticking so late that sometimes there isn't enough time to execute whatever plans you could come up by that time.

[dyskordian]

I agree with OP. Make it variable, especially on friends/invite/non-ranked play.

For other online board games they tend to do a "full time per player" thing, so it doesn't matter how long each turn takes but you only have, as an example, 30 minutes of playtime total. Across 4 players that is 2 hours max, but each player can take as long as they want on their turns up until they run out of time.

I think this is preferable. It makes it so that I can plan out a turn or two, but occasionally have to take a couple of minutes and really figure out the next turn or so.

[Sturm]

I much prefer 90 seconds to 3 minutes as the standard but I'm not sure why we don't have an option to change the time depending on our preference. Seems like an easy thing to add.

[Vertemouse]

Put your phone away, 3 minutes is insane.

[Oubley]

Originalmente postado por dyskordian:

I agree with OP. Make it variable, especially on friends/invite/non-ranked play.

For other online board games they tend to do a "full time per player" thing, so it doesn't matter how long each turn takes but you only have, as an example, 30 minutes of playtime total. Across 4 players that is 2 hours max, but each player can take as long as they want on their turns up until they run out of time.

I think this is preferable. It makes it so that I can plan out a turn or two, but occasionally have to take a couple of minutes and really figure out the next turn or so.

This approach makes more sense.

what happens if banked time is up, does it just auto resolve or does it then go to a quick time only?

90 seconds is insane to me for a board game. That seems more like for people who've played the game a bunch of times.

Just reading things and understanding options and what's going on I would think would take a couple minutes alone.

[BigNordBaer]

90 sec is enough to think about that you will lose.

[madracc00n]

Even 90 sec is alot to send 1 agent to a location.I mean u can also play on advance instead of sleeping during other people turn.

[BLUDGEON]

Posted this in the Discord but wanted to put it here also to support the OP:

The question of how long the turn timer should be is a tricky one - it's tough to balance giving people (particularly newer players) enough time to figure out what to do in a game of complex decision making versus the desire of very experienced (and/or impatient) players to speed things up. Creating multiple options is also not as simple a solution as it sounds due to the potential for fragmenting lobbies.

I thought the 3-minute timer was good, though I personally haven't been bothered too much with the recent cut to 1.5 minutes.

However, I've come to see that there absolutely needs to be a timerless option. A friend decided to pick up Dune Digital who has played the board game a few times but not much and not recently. We tried to play a game together with two AI opponents with the idea that I'd be able to give a refresher on how the game works and guide us through. It was completely impossible. Her timer ran out the first two turns and she was kicked from the game. We had to give up on the entire evening.

One of the fundamentals of board games is being able to sit down with your friends and learn a game and/or have someone teach it to you as you play it. I think it would very helpful for the game's growth and success for this to be part of the digital version as well.

I've had a few friends express interest who haven't played the board game, and what I want to say is "Awesome, pick it up and we can play!", but instead what I would have to say is "Well... okay, here's a 40 minute Youtube video to watch, and then go through the tutorials, and maybe play a bunch of games against the AI, and then maybe we can play together...". And realistically, even after going through all that it's very likely that 90 seconds will often still not be enough time.

So unfortunately even though I'd love to get more of my friends into this, at the moment I just can't really recommend it to them.

[Anapoda]

Ok, 3 minutes per turn means that a single game can last for two hours.

With 90 seconds per turn now, that's one hour.

That sounds way better to me.