Unsolvable FPS dip/micro stutter issue

[Swoogz]

Hey all, decided to get into P5R for the first time but unfortunately my experience hasnt been too great. Game runs at high settings 120 fps 1440p great, but every few seconds or so my FPS dips into the high 90s/108 fps and causes a micro stutter. Doesnt happen when I first boot up the game, but as i play it seems to get more and more consistent. Ive tried changing affinity cores, running in razer cortex, turning vsync on and off. It also happens when i change the fps cap to 60, micro stutters and drops to 56 fps when it does.

My specs are:

rtx 3080 12 gb
I7- 12700k
32 gb ddr5 ram
windows 11

I dont have this problem in any other game ive played, and been digging in every forum to try and find a fix but nothing seems to work. So frustrating. Let me know if more info is needed, or if anyone ran into this same issue cause I should have no issue running the game.

[Bun]

Thanks for mentioning that it doesn't happen in other games. Does audio stutter too? Did you try contacting tech support?

Here's some random suggestions:
- Try disabling any security software (AV/VPN) and verify game files. It's possible these inferfere with the DRM, leading to stutter (unlikely, but Denuvo "could be" attempting to verify you constantly).
- Make sure no GPU setting or overlay is affecting the game. For example, my AMD Software has a "Radeon Chill" feature where it'll auto lower fps when "idle". I can stare at something for like 5 sec and my fps lowers already.

This is unrelated: I had a similar problem when playing Crosscode where fps would slowly start to drop after 5-30 mins of playing in a snowy town. I was buying/selling items for my character. I had to restart the game often to restore fps. A temporary solution was to lower video settings (pixel size) from max to lowest while playing in this snowy area.

Never did figure out the issue but I also used mods and played around with GPU settings at the time. I thought the snow or merchant trading probably overloaded the game engine or something but strange thing is, after returning to this area at higher level the issue disappeared. So issue was problably my mods.

[Magnadeus]

Originally posted by Bun:

Thanks for mentioning that it doesn't happen in other games. Does audio stutter too? Did you try contacting tech support?

Here's some random suggestions:
- Try disabling any security software (AV/VPN) and verify game files. It's possible these inferfere with the DRM, leading to stutter (unlikely, but Denuvo "could be" attempting to verify you constantly).
- Make sure no GPU setting or overlay is affecting the game. For example, my AMD Software has a "Radeon Chill" feature where it'll auto lower fps when "idle". I can stare at something for like 5 sec and my fps lowers already.

This is unrelated: I had a similar problem when playing Crosscode where fps would slowly start to drop after 5-30 mins of playing in a snowy town. I was buying/selling items for my character. I had to restart the game often to restore fps. A temporary solution was to lower video settings (pixel size) from max to lowest while playing in this snowy area.

Never did figure out the issue but I also used mods and played around with GPU settings at the time. I thought the snow or merchant trading probably overloaded the game engine or something but strange thing is, after returning to this area at higher level the issue disappeared. So issue was problably my mods.

honestly, this is just a very poor port of the game. everyone has more than a good enough rig to play it and it's just a laggy stuttery mess. I've used almost every possible solution and none of them fix the issue. the task manager priority trick kind of works, but it still stutters. i honestly think denuvo is the culprit, but atlus won't removed it since the persona games are their biggest cash cows and removing it leads getting pirated, but it would possibly fix the stutter issue that everyone is facing.

[Sachmo The Trumpet Player]

I had the stutters and still did randomly while playing. The DXVK/Vulkan workaround helped me a bunch.

[messanoir]

That is weird. For reference, I get 120fps stable (no noticable frame drops in Afterburner). my specs:
Ryzen 7 5700X3D
RX6700Xt 12gb
32gb ddr4 4400 (running at 3800mhz)
Windows 11.

If there is any other info I can provide that might help, i'm happy to provide.

[Dopey Shepard]

It seems that a bunch of people with high end GPUs experience some kind of hiccup in their game, you aren't the first one. Primarily RTX cards (well, duh) but not AMD ones

Is there any chance you aren't referring to certian populated places in Tokyo that drop your framerate because of CPU hogging and bad optimization?

[Swoogz]

No, it happens after im playing for some time it seems to get worse. I did find that using gsync/freesync was making it really bad and disabling it in nvidia control panel for just this game seems to help a good bit. But yeah still very frustrating

[Nevaska]

I'm having the same problem, my specs are:
I5 11400
RTX 4060 TI 8gb
32gb ddr4 3200 mhz
Windows 11
The task manager reports that the game uses 30% of my gpu and 40% of my cpu in 2k with all settings at the highest possible, but i noticed that when those stutters happen, the gpu usage goes to 0%, a friend of mine with a similar build also reported this issue. I don't know if it's a denuvo issue or a driver issue, but i know it's very annoying, my build can run all games at ultra settings in 2k, a game like this should't be a problem.

[Arceus]

Did you get a fix, I have a 4080 Super, and I'm getting similar issues. I suppose its a RTX problem, I've not seen anyone with AMD reporting any issues.

Its slightly weird, because I played P3R, and I didn't face any of these issues.

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by Arceus:

Did you get a fix, I have a 4080 Super, and I'm getting similar issues. I suppose its a RTX problem, I've not seen anyone with AMD reporting any issues.

Its slightly weird, because I played P3R, and I didn't face any of these issues.

it is indeed an RTX problem. Dont know how they didnt optimize the game for RTX cards considering when the PC version came out. May I suggest buying an inferior card, like mine (RX 580 8gb) used and then play the game, and then re-sell it so you don't lose that much money. I know its a lot of hassle for 1 game but what can you do?

No mods to fix this too?

[Majoras ジ]

I bought Persona yesterday, I downloaded it today to play, when I enter the game menu I see 30 fps, I thought 30 fps was the game's fps limit, when I entered the game it was between 30-48 fps, my PC It's not a bad PC Ryzen 5600GT and an RX7600 card, I don't know why, I did some research and there are several people with the same problem, there are people from years ago with this problem. If anyone can help me I would be grateful!

[Sami Mikata]

Hello everyone after dealing with This issue for more than a week and researching mine was fixed by reducing my mouse polling rate from 8000 to 2000 Best regards

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by Sami Mikata:

Hello everyone after dealing with This issue for more than a week and researching mine was fixed by reducing my mouse polling rate from 8000 to 2000 Best regards

That's awesome! Do you have an RTX gpu, by any chance? I'll be sure to tell others of your possible solution. I remember it did help me in another game but it wasn't low fps issue but rather mouse acceleration that couldn't be disabled

[Janik]

Originally posted by Magnadeus:

Originally posted by Bun:

Thanks for mentioning that it doesn't happen in other games. Does audio stutter too? Did you try contacting tech support?

Here's some random suggestions:
- Try disabling any security software (AV/VPN) and verify game files. It's possible these inferfere with the DRM, leading to stutter (unlikely, but Denuvo "could be" attempting to verify you constantly).
- Make sure no GPU setting or overlay is affecting the game. For example, my AMD Software has a "Radeon Chill" feature where it'll auto lower fps when "idle". I can stare at something for like 5 sec and my fps lowers already.

This is unrelated: I had a similar problem when playing Crosscode where fps would slowly start to drop after 5-30 mins of playing in a snowy town. I was buying/selling items for my character. I had to restart the game often to restore fps. A temporary solution was to lower video settings (pixel size) from max to lowest while playing in this snowy area.

Never did figure out the issue but I also used mods and played around with GPU settings at the time. I thought the snow or merchant trading probably overloaded the game engine or something but strange thing is, after returning to this area at higher level the issue disappeared. So issue was problably my mods.

honestly, this is just a very poor port of the game. everyone has more than a good enough rig to play it and it's just a laggy stuttery mess. I've used almost every possible solution and none of them fix the issue. the task manager priority trick kind of works, but it still stutters. i honestly think denuvo is the culprit, but atlus won't removed it since the persona games are their biggest cash cows and removing it leads getting pirated, but it would possibly fix the stutter issue that everyone is facing.

"runs bad on my PC that means it's a bad port!!!!!"

Pathetic, really. It runs without any problems on my almost 8 year old PC, by your logic that makes it a perfect port.

[Dopey Shepard]

"runs bad on my PC that means it's a bad port!!!!!"

Pathetic, really. It runs without any problems on my almost 8 year old PC, by your logic that makes it a perfect port.

no matter how you look at this issue, the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of the people have no issue with the port and find it very enjoyable as is evident by 95%+ liked reviews

And yeah, I'm one of those for whom the game runs just great. RX 580, I3 10100, I only dip below 60 fps in crowded areas because the game is quite heavy on the CPU but I easily get my monitor's 144hz fps

[Many-Named]

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

"runs bad on my PC that means it's a bad port!!!!!"

Pathetic, really. It runs without any problems on my almost 8 year old PC, by your logic that makes it a perfect port.

no matter how you look at this issue, the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of the people have no issue with the port and find it very enjoyable as is evident by 95%+ liked reviews

And yeah, I'm one of those for whom the game runs just great. RX 580, I3 10100, I only dip below 60 fps in crowded areas because the game is quite heavy on the CPU but I easily get my monitor's 144hz fps

Yeah ok man, the overwhelming majority of people don't get cancer so cancer isn't a problem.

Whatever.

Anyway we agree that this is probably an RTX problem, at least I will stop fiddling around because the game ran FLAWLESSLY on my older system and now it just won't keep a stable fps no matter what, despite my current system being at least 4x faster.

Ah well, still a gem, if a flawed one.