Persona 6 female protag

[King of Games]

Since Persona seems to have some kind of weird thematic correlation with Jojo (atleast p3 onwards), what are the odds of p6 having a female protag.
They kinda combined parts of Golden Wind and Stone Ocean in P5 with the crime and prison themes. So idk if they'd try to get something else out of SO or something from Steel Ball Run

[Tiasmoon]

Publicado originalmente por lucky.peic:

I doubt it.
Besides, if they add female only portag i aint playing it

Sucks.. for you that is.

[Sibirski Plavac]

Publicado originalmente por Tiasmoon:

Publicado originalmente por lucky.peic:

I doubt it.
Besides, if they add female only portag i aint playing it

Sucks.. for you that is.

Nah, I dont have issues with female protagnoist in other games but if game has social elements like dating then im not gonna play it
I, as a male aint gonna date males even if its just a video game

Besides, im 99% certian that they wont be having female only protagonist in P6

[Xelane]

Publicado originalmente por lucky.peic:

Publicado originalmente por Tiasmoon:

Sucks.. for you that is.

Nah, I dont have issues with female protagnoist in other games but if game has social elements like dating then im not gonna play it
I, as a male aint gonna date males even if its just a video game

Besides, im 99% certian that they wont be having female only protagonist in P6

That doesn't make sense. They could just make both male and female romantic options. It wouldn't be remotely difficult.

You could also just not pick any romantic options.

Edit: Just to be clear, the reason I'm harping on this is because is because fixating on one minor (borderline irrelevant, really, since it just affects, like 2 scenes that last for about a minute each), to the point that you'll skip an otherwise amazing game is just silly.

The romance stuff altogether is maybe like 10 minutes of content in a 100+ hour game. Skipping the whole game just because of that is beyond silly--especially since they aren't mandatory.

[Dragon Master]

Publicado originalmente por Xelane:

Publicado originalmente por lucky.peic:

Nah, I dont have issues with female protagnoist in other games but if game has social elements like dating then im not gonna play it
I, as a male aint gonna date males even if its just a video game

Besides, im 99% certian that they wont be having female only protagonist in P6

That doesn't make sense. They could just make both male and female romantic options. It wouldn't be remotely difficult.

You could also just not pick any romantic options.

Edit: Just to be clear, the reason I'm harping on this is because is because fixating on one minor (borderline irrelevant, really, since it just affects, like 2 scenes that last for about a minute each), to the point that you'll skip an otherwise amazing game is just silly.

The romance stuff altogether is maybe like 10 minutes of content in a 100+ hour game. Skipping the whole game just because of that is beyond silly--especially since they aren't mandatory.

It’s not about difficulty but more that most people just won’t engage with same-gender romance. Some will but enough people will bow out of the game altogether that it would be likely to make Atlus lose money rather than make it.

The persona series has a built in audience and the vast majority of them are not interested in homosexuality being part of the game.

Add in the crapshoot if Atlus does attempt it and does it poorly, then they would have pissed everyone off.

And yes, people will skip an entire game because of it. The issue has been politicized so much in recent years that a lot of people are sick of it altogether and want nothing to do with it so they’ll skip out by default.

[Xelane]

Publicado originalmente por Dragon Master:

It’s not about difficulty but more that most people just won’t engage with same-gender romance. Some will but enough people will bow out of the game altogether that it would be likely to make Atlus lose money rather than make it.

I'm not sure I follow the first part of that, as I don't recall mentioning difficulty.

As for romance, as I mentioned before, I see no reason why they couldn't just have both options. The player also doesn't have to romance anyone. It really doesn't matter and, as I mentioned before, the romantic scenes only cover about 10 minutes of gameplay.

Publicado originalmente por Dragon Master:

The persona series has a built in audience and the vast majority of them are not interested in homosexuality being part of the game.

I'm going to need a source to believe that.

And again, even if that was indeed the case, the romance is such a small part of the game it shouldn't even matter and you aren't forced to engage in it at all.

Publicado originalmente por Dragon Master:

Add in the crapshoot if Atlus does attempt it and does it poorly, then they would have pissed everyone off.

I won't dispute that Atlus has a tried and true formula for their SMT games, but I don't think that the gender of the player matters, given the fact that the romance scenes always consist of one or two scenes that are extremely brief.

Publicado originalmente por Dragon Master:

And yes, people will skip an entire game because of it. The issue has been politicized so much in recent years that a lot of people are sick of it altogether and want nothing to do with it so they’ll skip out by default.

I'd argue that--were that to happen--people would be reading too much into the decision. I don't see anything wrong with having the lead for some Persona games be female.

It would be like me saying I don't want to play as someone who has black hair so I refuse to play P5 because of it. It's such a superficial detail that it shouldn't matter.

[Tiasmoon]

Publicado originalmente por Dragon Master:

It’s not about difficulty but more that most people just won’t engage with same-gender romance. Some will but enough people will bow out of the game altogether that it would be likely to make Atlus lose money rather than make it.

The persona series has a built in audience and the vast majority of them are not interested in homosexuality being part of the game.

Add in the crapshoot if Atlus does attempt it and does it poorly, then they would have pissed everyone off.

And yes, people will skip an entire game because of it. The issue has been politicized so much in recent years that a lot of people are sick of it altogether and want nothing to do with it so they’ll skip out by default.

Most of ''the audience'' doesnt care about romance in particular. They dont play the games for that. Most who do only romance one or two anyway. Guys are also not the only ones that play Persona either. Yes, some wont stay with the franchise in case of a female protagonist, but I think you vastly overestimate the importance of that part of the audience.

Publicado originalmente por Dragon Master:

The issue has been politicized so much in recent years that a lot of people are sick

..of it being brought up, like you are doing here.

[Douchebag Extraordinaire]

There are two sides to this, they can write an absolutely compelling story like how Tatsuya really loves Jun and the whole implication of their relationship compared to what's actually happening in game but on the other side, Persona, as a spin off and compared to the mainline SMT games, relies on its relationship system for its popularity and the target audience is mostly hetero males.

Yes, some men are cool with playing with female protagonists and even shipping as one, but it's ignorant to believe that introducing a female only protag in a role playing game with dating sim is going to go over with those that might not be cool with it.

[Tiasmoon]

Its pretty ignorant to claim ''relationship system'' refers to romance, rather then S-links.

[Dragon Master]

Publicado originalmente por Tiasmoon:

Its pretty ignorant to claim ''relationship system'' refers to romance, rather then S-links.

Call it what you will, the series has a reputation of being a dating sim and dungeon crawler mix.

[Sibirski Plavac]

Publicado originalmente por Xelane:

Publicado originalmente por lucky.peic:

Nah, I dont have issues with female protagnoist in other games but if game has social elements like dating then im not gonna play it
I, as a male aint gonna date males even if its just a video game

Besides, im 99% certian that they wont be having female only protagonist in P6

That doesn't make sense. They could just make both male and female romantic options. It wouldn't be remotely difficult.

You could also just not pick any romantic options.

Edit: Just to be clear, the reason I'm harping on this is because is because fixating on one minor (borderline irrelevant, really, since it just affects, like 2 scenes that last for about a minute each), to the point that you'll skip an otherwise amazing game is just silly.

The romance stuff altogether is maybe like 10 minutes of content in a 100+ hour game. Skipping the whole game just because of that is beyond silly--especially since they aren't mandatory.

If you like it go ahead and play if it releases with female protagonist, i wont

If they make both female and male protagonists then i wont mind playing with male one

I honestly doubt we are going to see protagonist gender choice, if i remember correctly a long time ago there was an interview regarding that and devs did mention it was hard and time consuming making both options in persona 3, but i might be remembering wrong
Im gonna have to google a bit later and see if i can find it

[Sibirski Plavac]

Publicado originalmente por Dragon Master:

Publicado originalmente por Xelane:

That doesn't make sense. They could just make both male and female romantic options. It wouldn't be remotely difficult.

You could also just not pick any romantic options.

Edit: Just to be clear, the reason I'm harping on this is because is because fixating on one minor (borderline irrelevant, really, since it just affects, like 2 scenes that last for about a minute each), to the point that you'll skip an otherwise amazing game is just silly.

The romance stuff altogether is maybe like 10 minutes of content in a 100+ hour game. Skipping the whole game just because of that is beyond silly--especially since they aren't mandatory.

It’s not about difficulty but more that most people just won’t engage with same-gender romance. Some will but enough people will bow out of the game altogether that it would be likely to make Atlus lose money rather than make it.

The persona series has a built in audience and the vast majority of them are not interested in homosexuality being part of the game.

Add in the crapshoot if Atlus does attempt it and does it poorly, then they would have pissed everyone off.

And yes, people will skip an entire game because of it. The issue has been politicized so much in recent years that a lot of people are sick of it altogether and want nothing to do with it so they’ll skip out by default.

Lack of interest from playerbase is one more reason why it is unlikely we will see female protagonist in P6

And yeah, people shoving lgbt down everyones throat is really getting annyoing and is one more reason why some people would skip game no matter how good rest of the game is

[King of Games]

Publicado originalmente por Dis Lexic:

Oh my, they use a fairly common colour a lot, one thats tied in quite nicely to the themes of the game at that. Look, you can think that they are similar, but when you get right down to it, as I have said, the only real similarity between them that isnt a fairly common story telling device is the fact that Personas and Stands are somewhat similar, but even they are both based of psychological ideas that have existed for a long time before either of them were conceived. Are there references? Probably, but thats not really suprising considering how popular Jojo is.

You can ignore it if you want. But there are many parallels between the two series, with P4 having the most influence from Jojos