Persona 5 Royal

Persona 5 Royal

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nephalim Nov 6, 2022 @ 11:02am
The difficulty in this game is just plain broken.
Playing on hard and it is a cakewalk. The game just throws an overwhelming amount of OP stuff at you, constantly. It is flashy but sometimes it feels like it is playing itself. WTF is this completely overpowered and semi random showtime thing, did the game really need this?

I hope there will be some good mods for when I eventually play this again.
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AsuraStrike Nov 6, 2022 @ 11:22am 
That is my biggest gripe for P5R and why I consistently believe P5 is the definitive and most authentic first playthrough experience.

The best you can do to mitigate this is:
avoid any DLC items and persona
avoid public execution - if you must fuse this way, avoid rigged personas or those higher lvl than you.

Additionally, the lv5 str perk is legal but extremely broken if you know how to abuse it, so use it sparingly.
Soren Nov 6, 2022 @ 11:33am 
Playing on Merciless with a 3x Max HP mod on all enemies. Realistically, that's all P5R needs to be somewhat challenging. For enemies to live long enough in most cases to actually fight back. I tried 5x HP at first, but found the persona awakening fight with Ryugi impossible.

Anyway, I learned a lot of things with the 3x Max enemy HP mod. The opening fight against the two Pumpkin dudes, they aren't allowed to kill you. The gun tutorial fight where Mona is meant to kill them in 1 turn with his slingshot has broken A.I. when they don't die. As in Mona is set to auto and just randomly uses 1 slingshot bullet even though he ran out of ammo at the start?

Funny part is I get to experience more of the game with 3x enemy HP. Some basic game mechanics I've learned that probably existed in the original P5 is enemies can try to run away if scared. And you only have 3 thieves guild escape blocks per dungeon if you don't kill them within a turn of them trying. Also enemies are actually capable of running out of SP and can fail to use skills when that happens. Even the original P5 is baby easy to the point where you'll never find out about the SP or enemy escaping I think.
nephalim Nov 6, 2022 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by Soren:
Playing on Merciless with a 3x Max HP mod on all enemies.

This exists on PC? 3x sounds like too much. 2x would be better. And turn off some stuff like showtime.
Soren Nov 6, 2022 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by nephalim:
Originally posted by Soren:
Playing on Merciless with a 3x Max HP mod on all enemies.

This exists on PC? 3x sounds like too much. 2x would be better. And turn off some stuff like showtime.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/408717

They have various percentages, but not 200%.

Also 2x HP is so low you'd be one shotting most starting enemies regardless because merciless gives 3x damage instead of 2x damage on super-effective element hits. Which is why Merciless is mostly easier than hard mode.

I can understand 200% for the sake of bosses. But cannon fodder is already so squishy and susceptible to baton pass combos as is.
nephalim Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:28am 
Ok my Crystal of Gluttony was automatically upgraded to a Ring of Gluttony by doing nothing special, which reflects all attacks except almighty. What the actual ♥♥♥♥ were they thinking I could just throw this on Joker and rush every battle and pretty much finish the game. This really sucks, I have no choice but to not use it to keep the game interesting.
Jackal Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:36am 
hrmm reading this crap makes me want to just play OG persona 5 on my ps5 instead
Jauhis Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:39am 
You dont really need to use the OP stuff to it be cakewalk on hard. Without them its pretty easy game too if you know what your doing.
Jauhis Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Jackal:
hrmm reading this crap makes me want to just play OG persona 5 on my ps5 instead

Original P5 was easy too.
Jackal Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:40am 
apparently even basic combat functions are broken and OP like some sort of execution mode or something? and they made the dungeons way easier ?
nephalim Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by Jackal:
apparently even basic combat functions are broken and OP like some sort of execution mode or something? and they made the dungeons way easier ?

Not sure what you mean about combat functions. Execution mode you mean the red thing? I

I think the dungeons are a big improvement in Royal. But the difficult even on hard is like an assist mode.
Jauhis Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:47am 
Dungeons has been always too easy when you could complete them only using 1 day even Original P5.
Jauhis Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:48am 
I'm ignoring all the OP stuff just like i did first time royal ps4.
nephalim Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:49am 
Any hope of mods coming to the rescue? The game balance needs a full overhaul.
Jackal Nov 10, 2022 @ 11:52am 
i guess im gonna wait another couple months before trying this out, ill go play other games while the mods fix the crap
Lynfinity Nov 10, 2022 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by nephalim:
Ok my Crystal of Gluttony was automatically upgraded to a Ring of Gluttony by doing nothing special, which reflects all attacks except almighty. What the actual ♥♥♥♥ were they thinking I could just throw this on Joker and rush every battle and pretty much finish the game. This really sucks, I have no choice but to not use it to keep the game interesting.
It automatically casts "Tetrakarn" and "Makarakarn" at the start of any battle, which makes you reflect both Physical and Magical attacks for a single turn. Quite useful, but not nearly as overpowered as you make it sound.
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Date Posted: Nov 6, 2022 @ 11:02am
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