Hibernation Mode

[GreyCivic]

I would like to have a Hibernation Mode instead of the Standby Mode, that i have not so much power consumption in the switched off situation, to keep the actual gaming position.

[Boblin the Goblin]

The standby mode is the same as a hibernation mode.

It uses almost no power.

[Prezidentas]

the standby mode is not the same as a true hibernation. however I don't see it happening since no one from the 64GB camp would want to waste 16GB of space for a feature only a small amount of people want. and no, "making it an option" is not an option.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Škoda 14Tr:

the standby mode is not the same as a true hibernation. however I don't see it happening since no one from the 64GB camp would want to waste 16GB of space for a feature only a small amount of people want. and no, "making it an option" is not an option.

Why would they have to give up 16gb of space?

[Prezidentas]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by Škoda 14Tr:

the standby mode is not the same as a true hibernation. however I don't see it happening since no one from the 64GB camp would want to waste 16GB of space for a feature only a small amount of people want. and no, "making it an option" is not an option.

Why would they have to give up 16gb of space?

to have a swap file big enough to store the entire ram on disk

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Škoda 14Tr:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Why would they have to give up 16gb of space?

to have a swap file big enough to store the entire ram on disk

Would it need to store the entirety of RAM though and not just what is currently being used?

It doesn't make sense that it would store the entirety of RAM if it all isn't being used.

[Snowfious]

While it may not make sense, usually for an effective "hibernation" method, you do want to use the entirety of your RAM on Storage. Because here's the thing, you may be playing a game that uses 4GB of RAM, but what about when you are playing a game that is using 10GB of RAM? If you only allocated 6GB to the swap, you'll crash your game or the OS itself while it's trying to do its thing when 10GB of RAM is being used. Too dangerous, so the only thing Valve could do is "all" the RAM for swap, not something you can manually set.

At least for Game-Mode, obviously in Desktop Mode you can do whatever you want, such as the 6GB. But when that issue happens, it's on you. As for Valve, it would only make sense for the SWAP to be how much the RAM is for the device.

Possibly this could be a thing on the SD 2, as long as they don't offer a 64GB device again. Hopefully the next iteration will be 256GB+.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Snowfious:

While it may not make sense, usually for an effective "hibernation" method, you do want to use the entirety of your RAM on Storage. Because here's the thing, you may be playing a game that uses 4GB of RAM, but what about when you are playing a game that is using 10GB of RAM? If you only allocated 6GB to the swap, you'll crash your game or the OS itself while it's trying to do its thing when 10GB of RAM is being used. Too dangerous, so the only thing Valve could do is "all" the RAM for swap, not something you can manually set.

At least for Game-Mode, obviously in Desktop Mode you can do whatever you want, such as the 6GB. But when that issue happens, it's on you. As for Valve, it would only make sense for the SWAP to be how much the RAM is for the device.

Possibly this could be a thing on the SD 2, as long as they don't offer a 64GB device again. Hopefully the next iteration will be 256GB+.

I'm not saying manually set the size, I'm saying why would it store the whole size and not what is being used automatically.

It's hard to think that computers with 32GB or 64GB of RAM are just making a file that big instead of the amount being used at the time of hibernation. It also wouldn't keep that file permanently since a new one is created when hibernation is initiated.

[Prezidentas]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

It's hard to think that computers with 32GB or 64GB of RAM are just making a file that big instead of the amount being used at the time of hibernation.

yes, that's exactly how it works. however most people don't even bother with hibernation.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Škoda 14Tr:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

It's hard to think that computers with 32GB or 64GB of RAM are just making a file that big instead of the amount being used at the time of hibernation.

yes, that's exactly how it works. however most people don't even bother with hibernation.

I'm not see mention of the size, only the fact that it snapshots the RAM at the time.

[deckorator]

To have the best of two worlds, you can set up suspend-then-hibernate. Fast resume for short time and zero drain for long term. Check-out my experience shared: https://github.com/nazar256/publications/blob/main/guides/steam-deck-hibernation.md

I hope Valve can include suspend-then-hibernate as a out-of-the box feature.