Don't kick me off my PC when I turn on my Deck and a game is running on both

[ITNoetic]

Here was my scenario just now.

I had an idea for some tinkering I wanted to do with my Deck. I was playing a fighting game online. While I was in a matchmaking queue, I decided I would boot up the Deck and get it into Desktop mode so I could mess with it in between matches.

As soon as the Deck woke up, my PC logged out of Steam, disconnected me from the favorable matchup that was about to load, and forced me to re-enter both my password and Steam Guard code. Even though I'm sitting at my computer with my Steam Deck to the side.

What I would want to happen in that case is to not get disconnected from my ranked match with no opportunity to correct whatever the issue was before having to deal with that BS.

I'm pissed, and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

I get that this is a unique situation. But gimme 10 minutes to sort it out. Just start a 10-minute timer on both platforms, and when the timer ends, quit both games. Stop the timer if I quit one of the games before then. Very, very easy. If there's internet nonsense to worry about, well, guess what? The Deck won't be online when it wakes, so it won't connect unless the game automatically does it, which is unlikely given how stuff tends to be set up. The only thing the Deck will connect to is Steam, which is the point at which everything goes to ♥♥♥♥.

It's like, if I don't set my Steam Deck to airplane mode before I put it to sleep while playing a game, it becomes a bomb that goes off if I'm ever stupid enough to turn it on while I'm already playing something else on PC.

[sev]

you are notified when booting up a game that you'll be disconnected from Steam, as only one client can be running a game at a time, to prevent account sharing and such. I do agree that there should be a choice when turning on the Deck which device to sign out, since I imagine this could be a common occurrence.
As an extreme workaround, you could create a second Steam account to sign in to the Deck with, and use library sharing to play games from your main account. untested but I assume it would work and solve your issue, though for obvious reasons I can't say I'd recommend it

[Otto Raynar]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από sev:

... you could create a second Steam account to sign in to the Deck with, and use library sharing to play games from your main account. untested but...

Library sharing already does this same thing normally anyway (which is why I'm not surprised that the Deck behaves this way) It's annoying as hell, but the best thing I've found to do is always keep the deck in Offline Mode whenever I don't need it to be connected.

[TONKAHANAH]

agreed. I have the same issue when queueing for Dota 2. Whats worse is that if this happens when queuing for dota, when you get back in it'll give you the "failed to ready up" penalty even if you didnt find a match.

this is super annoying. i should he able to access my games on my devices, especially when im under the same roof. I'd understand a bit more if I was trying to play the same game on multiple devices, but they're two completely different games.. thats ridiculous

[Boblin the Goblin]

It's fun seeing people discover something that's been a thing on Steam since it's been released.

Put the deck in offline mode, problem solved.

[cee]

I agree, this is a great request. There should be a grace period.

Family share gives you a 5 minute grace period timeout if you boot a 2nd game. Your scenario should do the same from suspend mode. That is enough of a grace period to sort it.

Running the deck in offline mode isn't a good solution as cloud saves are often desired.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Christopher:

I agree, this is a great request. There should be a grace period.

Family share gives you a 5 minute grace period timeout if you boot a 2nd game. Your scenario should do the same from suspend mode. That is enough of a grace period to sort it.

Running the deck in offline mode isn't a good solution as cloud saves are often desired.

Cloud saves get resynced when going back online.

[ITNoetic]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από sev:

you are notified when booting up a game that you'll be disconnected from Steam, as only one client can be running a game at a time, to prevent account sharing and such. I do agree that there should be a choice when turning on the Deck which device to sign out, since I imagine this could be a common occurrence.
As an extreme workaround, you could create a second Steam account to sign in to the Deck with, and use library sharing to play games from your main account. untested but I assume it would work and solve your issue, though for obvious reasons I can't say I'd recommend it :ojchicken:

In the use case I outlined in the OP, there is no notification. There is simply a disconnection.

I did not create this feature request looking for a workaround.

Additionally, save files are a thing

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από KittenGrindr:

It's fun seeing people discover something that's been a thing on Steam since it's been released.

Put the deck in offline mode, problem solved.

Steam Deck has only been a thing for a few months. Putting a PC to sleep while it's actively running a game is brand new to me. Especially if I'm also already running a game on another PC when I wake up the first one. Usually, that other system would be an entirely different platform. Hell, even the Steam Deck doesn't have any issues when you do this with a non-Steam game.

So what you're saying about offline mode doesn't solve the problem. It just replaces it with a worse one (having to manually toggle offline/online mode to download pre-cached shaders and patches).

[Boblin the Goblin]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ITNoetic:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από sev:

you are notified when booting up a game that you'll be disconnected from Steam, as only one client can be running a game at a time, to prevent account sharing and such. I do agree that there should be a choice when turning on the Deck which device to sign out, since I imagine this could be a common occurrence.
As an extreme workaround, you could create a second Steam account to sign in to the Deck with, and use library sharing to play games from your main account. untested but I assume it would work and solve your issue, though for obvious reasons I can't say I'd recommend it :ojchicken:

In the use case I outlined in the OP, there is no notification. There is simply a disconnection.

I did not create this feature request looking for a workaround.

Additionally, save files are a thing

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από KittenGrindr:

It's fun seeing people discover something that's been a thing on Steam since it's been released.

Put the deck in offline mode, problem solved.

Steam Deck has only been a thing for a few months. Putting a PC to sleep while it's actively running a game is brand new to me. Especially if I'm also already running a game on another PC when I wake up the first one. Usually, that other system would be an entirely different platform. Hell, even the Steam Deck doesn't have any issues when you do this with a non-Steam game.

So what you're saying about offline mode doesn't solve the problem. It just replaces it with a worse one (having to manually toggle offline/online mode to download pre-cached shaders and patches).

Doesn't matter if it's new to you. It is a restriction that has been in place since Steam started because of how licensing and digital products work. This isn't something that Steam can just change. This would require them to renegotiate contracts with every major publisher in the platform.

Good luck trying to convince them that you aren't account sharing by allowing one account to run multiple games on multiple machines simultaneously.

[Silver]

I've picked up the deck to play during waits in the lobby on my desktop, but then forgotten I already had a game suspended and wasn't offline, so would end up getting kicked out and have to relogin. At least not having to require reentering passwords would be a step forward even if kicking out is present.

[NanoPi]

Had it happen before on 2x desktop. Instead of filling out the login, I closed the login window and reopened Steam.

[ITNoetic]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από KittenGrindr:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ITNoetic:

In the use case I outlined in the OP, there is no notification. There is simply a disconnection.

I did not create this feature request looking for a workaround.

Additionally, save files are a thing




Steam Deck has only been a thing for a few months. Putting a PC to sleep while it's actively running a game is brand new to me. Especially if I'm also already running a game on another PC when I wake up the first one. Usually, that other system would be an entirely different platform. Hell, even the Steam Deck doesn't have any issues when you do this with a non-Steam game.

So what you're saying about offline mode doesn't solve the problem. It just replaces it with a worse one (having to manually toggle offline/online mode to download pre-cached shaders and patches).

Doesn't matter if it's new to you. It is a restriction that has been in place since Steam started because of how licensing and digital products work. This isn't something that Steam can just change. This would require them to renegotiate contracts with every major publisher in the platform.

Good luck trying to convince them that you aren't account sharing by allowing one account to run multiple games on multiple machines simultaneously.

Where in the world is this energy coming from?

I am having a problem playing games that I bought, and you're telling me good luck convincing Valve to solve the problem? Whether I get booted instantly or after 5 or 10 minutes is up to Valve, not some licensing agreement that predates my hardware.

And the Steam Deck (and thus this problem) is brand new. Anyway, we're done, buddy! Go find someone else's feature request to troll.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ITNoetic:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από KittenGrindr:

Doesn't matter if it's new to you. It is a restriction that has been in place since Steam started because of how licensing and digital products work. This isn't something that Steam can just change. This would require them to renegotiate contracts with every major publisher in the platform.

Good luck trying to convince them that you aren't account sharing by allowing one account to run multiple games on multiple machines simultaneously.

Where in the world is this energy coming from?

I am having a problem playing games that I bought, and you're telling me good luck convincing Valve to solve the problem? Whether I get booted instantly or after 5 or 10 minutes is up to Valve, not some licensing agreement that predates my hardware.

And the Steam Deck (and thus this problem) is brand new. Anyway, we're done, buddy! Go find someone else's feature request to troll.

It isn't trolling just because you don't like the answer.

You request has been posted multiple times, each time has gotten the same responses because of the same reason.

Use the search function.

[sev]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ITNoetic:

In the use case I outlined in the OP, there is no notification. There is simply a disconnection.

I mentioned that, I was just giving context just in case.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από KittenGrindr:

It isn't trolling just because you don't like the answer.

being unhelpful and standoffish for no good reason when you aren't even being minorly inconvenienced is certainly less than chill
it stands to state that adding a notification to the Deck before getting booted would be helpful while not compromising Valve's vision with their current measures, and restating it where such restatement isn't disallowed only helps bring attention to the issue.

[Capt. Happy]

I agree, the steam deck sleep feature adds a new problem to the normal system. If I'm playing a game on my deck and I use the sleep feature, just powering on the steam deck kicks me out of whatever I'm doing on my desktop, even if the game the steam deck is waking up to is a non-steam game running in game mode. Even just extending the 5 minute grace period to this situation would help a lot.