I bought a steam deck and I’m excited b it after doing so much research, I feel like I regret buying it.

[TheRealSlimShady]

I’m new to steam deck. I don’t have a pc and I usually play on the ps5 and I enjoy it a lot. I was looking for something more portable and on the go. I first couldn’t decide if I should get the steam deck or Rog ally. I ended getting the steam deck. Again, I’m so new to the PC gaming. I was not really sure what I was getting myself into.

I was looking on the steam app and I was thinking that any game I see on the app I would be able to play on the steam deck. I came to find out that you can’t play some games on steam deck and I’m kind of disappointed.

I was looking forward to play “bodycam”, “undisputed” and “ready or not” but I’ve been researching that these games crash a lot or can’t even be played on steam deck.

I kind of regret purchasing a steam deck but I’m not sure if I’m overthinking it.

I do understand that some games can’t be played like “Warzone” which I’m totally fine with because that’s why I have my ps5 for.

I bought the stupid ps portal too and I hate it and that’s why I came across the steam deck.

By the way, I haven’t received my steam deck yet. I’m still waiting for it to come in.

[Haruspex]

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

In the 2 years I’ve own the deck, I’ve had to tinker with way more games than windows.

Depends on which games. There are a lot of older Windows games that "just work" on Deck but require tinkering on Windows, I get where you're coming from though. Personally, I don't think Linux and by extension the Steam Deck requires more tinkering, just different tinkering, and when you're already familiar and comfortable with Windows, tinkering on Linux can feel more complicated.

[Drak3]

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

Drak3 の投稿を引用：

Only if you make the conscious effort to to make the Deck more complicated. Which isn't remotely necessary for 90% of people, it's simpler than running Windows on other handhelds.

In the 2 years I’ve own the deck, I’ve had to tinker with way more games than windows.

In the two years I've owned the Deck, I've never once had to use the desktop mode. I'm not sticking to just verified games either. The vast majority of my library runs with, at most, just changing a graphic setting or two, and for a handful of games, drop TDP to 3-5W. There was very little I needed to do out of the box.

Whereas I have to vet Windows updates to ensure that my user data doesn't get deleted (like KB4532693), or Windows false flagging a program as incompatible and deleting it without user verification after an update (default behavior since the release of 10, can't be turned off).
I often have to kill and relaunch Legion Space or Armory Crate SE or reboot the Go/Ally to deal with software dragging down performance to worse than the Deck at low TDP, because trying to fix the issues of an incompetent OS with marginally less incompetent software is the only way Lenovo and ASUS can address the issue that is Windows without jeopardizing their licensing agreements with Microsoft.
I regularly have to cycle wifi on and off with every Windows machine I've owned that has ran 8 or newer. It's not an issue on my Deck. It's not an issue on my ROG Strix Advantage running Manjaro. It wasn't an issue when I was testing Bazzite on a Minisforum V3.
Turning off core isolation to prevent massive hang ups when gaming.
Dealing with Windows' forced updates.
Reconfiguring desktop controller profiles WHEN Windows decides it doesn't like them.
Reconfiguring default apps after an update resets them, which MS is adamant about.
REconfiguring settings after an update resets them, which MS is adamant about.
Stopping the Xbox app and gamebar from hijacking the guide button.
Configuring startup programs.
Debloating Windows.

And that is when Windows is behaving itself and Microsoft isn't insulting their customers' intellegence by trying to take control away, add more adware or spyware, or introduce "features" that are massive security risks (like Recall).

[Prezidentas]

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

Prezidentas の投稿を引用：

the legion go simply uses more power to achieve the higher framerates, so for portable use you won't be playing such games on legion device either. also, for first person games you need trackpads, and only steam deck has proper trackpads.

so nobody on Playstation or Xbox can play first person shooters because none of those consoles have track pads? cmon man........

Have you seem them try? It's a comedy without copious amount of autoaim

[Haruspex]

Prezidentas の投稿を引用：

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

so nobody on Playstation or Xbox can play first person shooters because none of those consoles have track pads? cmon man........

Have you seem them try? It's a comedy without copious amount of autoaim

There's a great old video that highlights exactly this. Quake III, M&K vs Xbox 360 controller. It's not a fair fight at all. Controller guy truly believed the controller could be competitive and wanted to prove it to the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJN1VvfHO4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF5hqdc510g
The rematch. Controller didn't fare any better.

[Prezidentas]

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

Prezidentas の投稿を引用：

the legion go simply uses more power to achieve the higher framerates, so for portable use you won't be playing such games on legion device either.

ive also posted a bunch of my own videos showing how the Lenovo Legion go outperforms the deck in games at 15w using the same settings

deck......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5E6l0POY2M&t=567s

Legion Go....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_MF3EHN3gI

Had to rewatch gamersnexus video on the Legion go but as suspected the deck actually wins on most games when legion go is limited to 15w.

[invision2212]

Drak3 の投稿を引用：

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

In the 2 years I’ve own the deck, I’ve had to tinker with way more games than windows.

In the two years I've owned the Deck, I've never once had to use the desktop mode. I'm not sticking to just verified games either. The vast majority of my library runs with, at most, just changing a graphic setting or two, and for a handful of games, drop TDP to 3-5W. There was very little I needed to do out of the box.

Whereas I have to vet Windows updates to ensure that my user data doesn't get deleted (like KB4532693), or Windows false flagging a program as incompatible and deleting it without user verification after an update (default behavior since the release of 10, can't be turned off).
I often have to kill and relaunch Legion Space or Armory Crate SE or reboot the Go/Ally to deal with software dragging down performance to worse than the Deck at low TDP, because trying to fix the issues of an incompetent OS with marginally less incompetent software is the only way Lenovo and ASUS can address the issue that is Windows without jeopardizing their licensing agreements with Microsoft.
I regularly have to cycle wifi on and off with every Windows machine I've owned that has ran 8 or newer. It's not an issue on my Deck. It's not an issue on my ROG Strix Advantage running Manjaro. It wasn't an issue when I was testing Bazzite on a Minisforum V3.
Turning off core isolation to prevent massive hang ups when gaming.
Dealing with Windows' forced updates.
Reconfiguring desktop controller profiles WHEN Windows decides it doesn't like them.
Reconfiguring default apps after an update resets them, which MS is adamant about.
REconfiguring settings after an update resets them, which MS is adamant about.
Stopping the Xbox app and gamebar from hijacking the guide button.
Configuring startup programs.
Debloating Windows.

And that is when Windows is behaving itself and Microsoft isn't insulting their customers' intellegence by trying to take control away, add more adware or spyware, or introduce "features" that are massive security risks (like Recall).

So you never had to install different version of proton-ge?

I had to have a few versions of that to make certain games work at all. Batman Arkham asylum comes to mind. Also syberia 1, and quite a few others. Some games even needed launch options.

Every try to locate a save file? It’s located in the depths of hell of the OS where the average user would never find it, even if they tried all day long.

Also legion space never once gave me issues, it’s runs in the background and consumes about 25-50mb of ram

My legion go has never crashed, got slowed down, or anything weird since owning it (4 months)

The Wi-Fi on this list thing is god tier. It uses all of my gigabyte internet and can easily do 100mb/sec the entire download.
My steam deck is lucky to get 40mb/sec on Ethernet. Even worse on Wi-Fi.

Gamebar is quite handy to record game clips. Never an issue with it.

I’ll be more than happy to show you more videos of my legion go smashing the steam deck in performance at the same wattage if you’d like.

[invision2212]

Prezidentas の投稿を引用：

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

ive also posted a bunch of my own videos showing how the Lenovo Legion go outperforms the deck in games at 15w using the same settings

deck......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5E6l0POY2M&t=567s

Legion Go....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_MF3EHN3gI

Had to rewatch gamersnexus video on the Legion go but as suspected the deck actually wins on most games when legion go is limited to 15w.

A video from what? 9 months ago? Steam deck gets handed now from all the updates the Z1 has gotten since

[Prezidentas]

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

Prezidentas の投稿を引用：

Had to rewatch gamersnexus video on the Legion go but as suspected the deck actually wins on most games when legion go is limited to 15w.

A video from what? 9 months ago? Steam deck gets handed now from all the updates the Z1 has gotten since

never knew Asus hired house elves to replace APUs at night!

[Jeff]

My experience after a few weeks using Steam Deck, only multiplayer games with anti-cheats is definitely not playable unless you dual boots with Windows. Other Windows games with no anti-cheats simply just need a workaround to make it work by using Proton or Wine.
As for other demanding games like Warzone (I just found out yesterday it can't run to 60fps even on low graphics) can't run smooth but not all games are not able to run. So do some researches of those games before you try/buying the steam deck but you already bought it...

Can confirm Ready or Not can run normally, just don't play it in desktop mode. I made a mistake playing it in desktop mode, it was so laggy, not runable until i switch to gaming mode.
Emulation on this is a blast.

[Haruspex]

Jeff の投稿を引用：

Emulation on this is a blast.

Yes, and RPCS3 just got this massive update that doubles performance in lots of games when running lower-end CPUs like the Steam Deck's 4 core, 8 thread processor.

[Drak3]

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

So you never had to install different version of proton-ge?

No.

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

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Every try to locate a save file? It’s located in the depths of hell of the OS where the average user would never find it, even if they tried all day long.

That's also an issue with Windows. Some games keep their data in the same folder as the game, some want to pollute the documents folder with save game data, and some chuck it into some seemingly random folder Windows blindly lets programs access to with no regards to security.

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

Also legion space never once gave me issues, it’s runs in the background and consumes about 25-50mb of ram

My legion go has never crashed, got slowed down, or anything weird since owning it (4 months)

Either you've gotten a golden sample...or you're lying. Legion Space is a huge pain point for Go owners that don't jump to Bazzite. Windows behaves like this on low spec machines regardless, and it gets worse the lower you drop the TDP. I won't go below 15W on the Go, because it's a noticeable hit over the Ally at 10W.

And I can verify that what you said isn't true, because the background daemon takes 60mb or more, the app itself takes 500+mb, and opening the quick access menu takes roughly 150mb that won't let go of. However, RAM's not the the only resource either. Both the QAM and the app itself do 'randomly' cause CPU use to spike.

[invision2212]

Drak3 の投稿を引用：

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

So you never had to install different version of proton-ge?

No.

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

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Every try to locate a save file? It’s located in the depths of hell of the OS where the average user would never find it, even if they tried all day long.

That's also an issue with Windows. Some games keep their data in the same folder as the game, some want to pollute the documents folder with save game data, and some chuck it into some seemingly random folder Windows blindly lets programs access to with no regards to security.

invision2212 の投稿を引用：

Also legion space never once gave me issues, it’s runs in the background and consumes about 25-50mb of ram

My legion go has never crashed, got slowed down, or anything weird since owning it (4 months)

Either you've gotten a golden sample...or you're lying. Legion Space is a huge pain point for Go owners that don't jump to Bazzite. Windows behaves like this on low spec machines regardless, and it gets worse the lower you drop the TDP. I won't go below 15W on the Go, because it's a noticeable hit over the Ally at 10W.

And I can verify that what you said isn't true, because the background daemon takes 60mb or more, the app itself takes 500+mb, and opening the quick access menu takes roughly 150mb that won't let go of. However, RAM's not the the only resource either. Both the QAM and the app itself do 'randomly' cause CPU use to spike.

Sorry man, I don’t know what to tell you. I have no stakes in either handheld so it wouldn’t even make sense to lie about anything. It doesn’t crash, it doesn’t really go above 72c at full 30-32w, legion space doesn’t cause me issues, tho I rarely open it as I’ve already configured what I need.

I showed a video of portal 2 at 7w out performing the deck some time ago when this argument the go does terrible at low TDP.

The deck is nice for what It is but it’s overpriced. You can buy a legion go for 579.00 on Amazon right now which is a much better buy.

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Legion-Handheld-Touchscreen-Extreme/dp/B0CM74YFSP/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=SH7MH16RN03V&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.E9rmOX9_FXnA8PrpiSfE-zg9noepY3LbDD8aSZNzF7b3J2BclyIcM98zMz0baMZRt6l6GOzz2nIITmBjVMCN1vC-sL891pPJDbygzmgxpDAwdCrNFXaQkIi_Msq94bgzP6CA6mSy-QERqh5BvAlV-8bBvFqKiXRK44871S2HWieDgJA2Z2usiRMjGCczwAXeD4yG15sJ_J-2A1SX9ebiZw.HcjmHzcIY7e5k4yZft5on4G-ja-7Bgj288oEJic-jjg&dib_tag=se&keywords=lenovo+legion+go&qid=1718816307&sprefix=kenovo+le%2Caps%2C93&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.2b70bf2b-6730-4ccf-ab97-eb60747b8daf

[ugafan]

When you open up the controller layout in Steam, does the Legion Go show up as an Xbox controller? Is there any way to adjust the trackpad behavior via Steam Input? Or adjust gyro settings?

[Drak3]

ugafan の投稿を引用：

When you open up the controller layout in Steam, does the Legion Go show up as an Xbox controller? Is there any way to adjust the trackpad behavior via Steam Input? Or adjust gyro settings?

Steam sees the Go as just a basic Xbox controller. It doesn't see the additional buttons, and it doesn't see gyro (which Legion Space only allows you disable it, or set it up as an analog stick)

[invision2212]

Heres a screenshot of task manager so you no longer have to think people lie. Maybe you need to learn how to configure windows and your legion go before jumping to conclusions

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3271166878