Steam Deck

Steam Deck

.... 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 5:17
Things on Steamdeck that are awful but would have been easy to fix ...
Keyboard ->
i have no idea what is going on with the on screen keyboard in desktop mode but its awful - out of 10 keys pressed 1-2 wont work even though there is haptic feedback and a sound ...

Screen ->
What where they thinking? Why is there no easy way to turn off the display without stopping downloads etc.? Why wont my screen turn off when its just downloading games? I installed multiple games and let them download overnight just to find out that my steamdock screen was running the whole night - that obviously cant be good for the screen ....



Transfer files between Windows PC and Steam Deck (for example mods for stardew valley - i dont want to download all of the files directly on my steamdeck ...):

- Data Transfer ->
the steamdeck can play modded games - but for that to work you have to transfer files from your PC to your Steamdeck which is the most awful expirience ive ever had with a device ...

- Network Folder on Router -> nope wont work can see the content but copy produces errors ...
- connecting the steamdeck to PC with USB and simply access the SD-Card etc.? Doenst seem to work either
- sharing a folder with Windows -> nope doesnt work either

So after probably 30-60 minutes of frustration i found out that i can network share a folder from my PC but only connect directly with the IP - everything else wont work ....


Is there no easy way to transfer data? From my point of view the best options that could be added would be:
- direct access via USB to the SD Card
- easy way too network share a folder on the steamdeck or the complete steamdeck (is that even possible?) that would probably make modding way easier since i prefer to type folder names etc. on my pc keyboard and use my pc mouse



I really think the steamdeck is a great product - but those issues are issues that will make such a device fail in the mass-market. Not having the steamdock released yet is also a huge issue.
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Mat.W 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 5:57 
As much of a bummer as this may sound we really are beta testers for this thing. It doesn't really launch to the public properly until after October (according to valve anyways) so they just use us and our feedback to improve the device to the extent they can. I am surprised the USB transfer is not a thing yet, on the account I have not tried myself yet lol, but it sounds like something that would be easy enough for them to add soon.
AD 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 6:11 
引用自 Mat.W
As much of a bummer as this may sound we really are beta testers for this thing. It doesn't really launch to the public properly until after October (according to valve anyways) so they just use us and our feedback to improve the device to the extent they can. I am surprised the USB transfer is not a thing yet, on the account I have not tried myself yet lol, but it sounds like something that would be easy enough for them to add soon.
^This, pretty much. It's unfinished at the moment. What OP said certainly has merits, though, so I'm not saying that to be dismissive.

Regarding file sharing:

Last I checked Linux did have support for Windows file shares via Samba, so it should be possible to implement that. It could perhaps be used and tweaked to allow a better experience. Don't know how well it works since I don't really use Windows anymore, though, so it would hang on how well it works.

Alternative:

Another option is to integrate file transfers/file sharing in steam in some way. Like telling Steam that "this folder on this computer can be shared to other logins on my account", I guess there would be some security implications of this, so I don't know if it's actually a good idea. And even if it is, it's probably not going to be a short term solution.
最後修改者:AD; 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 6:13
tfk 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 6:27 
Keyboard: haven't really observed that one yet...

Screen: in desktop mode you are running KDE. In its settings manager you can find power saving settings. I have observed that my screen goes dim after a while. There should also be an option to turn it off.

Data transfer: I just transferred my Amiga roms/kickstarts and games via a tool called Warpinator. Just make sure ports 22000 and 22001 are open on the PC side and run the app on both systems.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heres-how-to-transfer-files-from-your-pc-to-a-steam-deck/

I think this is a great product. Its open, both in hardware and software. You decide what you run on it. Not some corporation. Example: a PS5 controller won't work on a PS4 system. Not because its technically impossible but because Sony wants people to buy the PS5. This controller works perfectly on Linux.

That's the difference between the Steam Deck and other handheld systems. The Steam Deck embraces open source. The consumers need to embrace it too.
AD 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 6:54 
引用自 tfk
Keyboard: haven't really observed that one yet...

Screen: in desktop mode you are running KDE. In its settings manager you can find power saving settings. I have observed that my screen goes dim after a while. There should also be an option to turn it off.

Data transfer: I just transferred my Amiga roms/kickstarts and games via a tool called Warpinator. Just make sure ports 22000 and 22001 are open on the PC side and run the app on both systems.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heres-how-to-transfer-files-from-your-pc-to-a-steam-deck/

I think this is a great product. Its open, both in hardware and software. You decide what you run on it. Not some corporation. Example: a PS5 controller won't work on a PS4 system. Not because its technically impossible but because Sony wants people to buy the PS5. This controller works perfectly on Linux.

That's the difference between the Steam Deck and other handheld systems. The Steam Deck embraces open source. The consumers need to embrace it too.
I realized I answered OP without looking it up and went to the Steam Deck settings (gaming mode). There is an option to dim the screen, but no option to turn it off that I can see. Haven't tried using desktop mode because I didn't think of it, so thanks for suggesting that!

EDIT:

From what I understand, Warpinator isn't available on Windows. A quick google search did find unofficial ports to Windows, but I cannot comment on how well they work. So it doesn't seem like an ideal solution currently to share files between the Steam Deck and a Windows machine.
最後修改者:AD; 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:19
tfk 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:06 
As suggested by Liam in his post:
https://winpinator.swisz.cz

And his video of him demonstrating it:
https://youtu.be/sHdQT6kI6Q8?t=37
Boblin the Goblin 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:09 
I never ran into the file transfer issue. I have a NAS that I setup for other stuff and the Deck connects and pulls files from it seamlessly.

Even have a shortcut on the desktop for it when I need it.
tfk 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:11 
Yeah. That should work too as it is basically a PC with network adapter so if you can do it on a regular PC then you can do so also on the Deck.
Taktloss 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:19 
Everything works in network as you would use a PC just use a SMB share or whatever you want no special tool needed. Other than that well i have a good Internet connection just copying would take longer as downloading for me ^^
最後修改者:Taktloss; 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:20
mitcHELLspawn 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:24 
I don't have a deck yet... its on the way, but dude, its just a Linux PC at the end of the day.. Have you ever heard of SSH/SCP? Very easy way to send files..

pop open a windows CMD prompt.
cd C:\Whichever\directory\you\want
scp filename.txt user@ipaddress.of.deck:/directory/you/want/to/go

if you want to send everything in the dir:
scp * user@ipaddress.of.deck:/directory/you/want/to/go
最後修改者:mitcHELLspawn; 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:31
ParasiteX 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:27 
I'm using an unofficial port of Warpinator on Windows and that works fine. Haven't done much benchmarking on transfer rates, but they are decent enough imo. But this depends greatly on your local WiFi transfer speeds.

And I agree the on-screen keyboard is terrible and incredibly unresponsive. But i just got a foldable bluetooth keyboard for whenever i need to type anything. Plus the keyboard i got also came with a case you can fold into a kickstand that fits the steam deck perfectly.

One other method for transferring files which should be a-lot faster is using an ethernet network adapter connected via USB. And now that i think about it, i do have one i bought for my laptop a while back. I'll probably give it a test run ans see how that works.
jrepin 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:54 
For sharing files between PCs (and smartphones) and some more cool features I would like to see KDE Connect installed by default in SteamOS and hopefully also integrated into games mode GUI. See this thread about it.

Also for accessing the Windows shares when I still had any Windows computer years ago I remember Dolphin file manager (available on KDE Plasma desktop in desktop mode) to have an option in Remote/Network section to show and directly manipulate the shared files in almost the same way you can use fish:// URL so do the same over SSH. There was also some option to Add Network Share. All was directly available in KDE apps to save/load and edit the files on shared places. I guess this options are still there i Dolphin and even improved during those years. Unless evil Microsoft again did something to prevent interoperability as they usually do :(
tfk 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 8:02 
Dolphin is still there and the Network section reveals all options. Bluetooth, MTP devices (mobile?), Network shares (native), Samba shares (windows).
AD 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 8:31 
引用自 ParasiteX
I'm using an unofficial port of Warpinator on Windows and that works fine. Haven't done much benchmarking on transfer rates, but they are decent enough imo. But this depends greatly on your local WiFi transfer speeds.
Ok, good to know it works. Will keep it in mind if I ever need to transfer files to/from Windows.
Cypherous 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 8:34 
I wouldn't worry about screen issues it would literally take thousands of hours of the same image to burn in
Tetravalence 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 9:17 
Keyboard:

I use dual track pad typing and run into the "error" you are referring to all the time. However, it is not an error. The button views have deadspace between them. Keyboard itself sends haptic feedback and sound when the keyboard recognizes a press, whether or not it is actually over a button. Thus, this is user error. Could valve put 0 space between keys? Sure. But for some reason they don't. My guess is that it is due to the availability of different keyboards. They simply have to optimize it better.
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