Steam Deck Oled vs Rog ally x or Lenovo legion go

[Cheese Wonton]

Hello, I’ve been thinking on buying myself a handheld pc, after doing a bit of research I’m torn between which device to get.

I usually only play war thunder, Garry’s mod, Cod BO3, GTA V and older games. I read that the Lenovo legion and rog ally are more powerful than the deck, but both have issues, the rog ally caught my eye but after hearing about qc issues I was discouraged for going for that. The Lenovo legion seems good, other than hearing about bad speakers and loud fans. I’m still torn on what to get, I do want a device that can run games at a decent fps. What do you think?

[Drak3]

The software on the Legion Go it hot ****, and the ergonomics on the first version are not good. I don’t recommend anyone buy it at any price.
Windows 11 also just sucks on handheld devices, and will fight you trying bypass it with auto launching Steam in BPM.

Check your games on ProtonDB and search Youtube to see if someone’s tested performance on deck. If the games are supported and run well (in your opinion), get the Deck, if not get the ROG Ally X and expect teething pains with Windows.

[Mahjik]

If your plan is to play those games online, you'll be safer looking into a Windows based handheld.

Every device will have a return period. Pick the one that fits your use case best and try it. Worst case, you send it back.

[invision2212]

I’ve had the lenovo legion go since launch and had nothing but a great experience with it. So much that I don’t really touch the steam deck anymore.

The speakers don’t suck on it. The EQ was the issue and simply changing it made the speakers sound so much better. The speakers have bass, which is something the deck does not have.

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is. The legion go with windows wipes the floor with the deck in terms of gaming and productivity. The CPU in the legion go is a desktop equivalent while the decks is more of a mobile phone chip.

My android handheld ( Odin 2 Portal ) has more power than the steam deck at half the price.

[Cheese Wonton]

Originally posted by invision2212:

I’ve had the lenovo legion go since launch and had nothing but a great experience with it. So much that I don’t really touch the steam deck anymore.

The speakers don’t suck on it. The EQ was the issue and simply changing it made the speakers sound so much better. The speakers have bass, which is something the deck does not have.

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is. The legion go with windows wipes the floor with the deck in terms of gaming and productivity. The CPU in the legion go is a desktop equivalent while the decks is more of a mobile phone chip.

My android handheld ( Odin 2 Portal ) has more power than the steam deck at half the price.

How are the fans? I’ve heard those are really really loud. I liked the fact the legion go is 144 hz and has a bigger screen

[N]

Originally posted by invision2212:

I’ve had the lenovo legion go since launch and had nothing but a great experience with it. So much that I don’t really touch the steam deck anymore.

The speakers don’t suck on it. The EQ was the issue and simply changing it made the speakers sound so much better. The speakers have bass, which is something the deck does not have.

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is. The legion go with windows wipes the floor with the deck in terms of gaming and productivity. The CPU in the legion go is a desktop equivalent while the decks is more of a mobile phone chip.

My android handheld ( Odin 2 Portal ) has more power than the steam deck at half the price.

sounds like you dont mind bloatware, LLM gimmicks and breaches of personal privacy. its cool if it doesnt affect your workflow, but its still a big issue for a lot of people. deck is private, valve doesnt sell your data. a lot of windows programs run serviceably with wine or proton. more still have FOSS linux alternatives. Deck is just as capable at productivity. is just not as powerful. it makes up for that with a really juicy battery letting me make music for like 3 hours with no outlet. less powerful programs run for up to 12 hours on a charge.

[invision2212]

Originally posted by Cheese Wonton:

Originally posted by invision2212:

I’ve had the lenovo legion go since launch and had nothing but a great experience with it. So much that I don’t really touch the steam deck anymore.

The speakers don’t suck on it. The EQ was the issue and simply changing it made the speakers sound so much better. The speakers have bass, which is something the deck does not have.

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is. The legion go with windows wipes the floor with the deck in terms of gaming and productivity. The CPU in the legion go is a desktop equivalent while the decks is more of a mobile phone chip.

My android handheld ( Odin 2 Portal ) has more power than the steam deck at half the price.

How are the fans? I’ve heard those are really really loud. I liked the fact the legion go is 144 hz and has a bigger screen

It’s about the same volume as the decks.
It’s bigger so it cools the device a lot better and will run games much cooler using the same wattage. When you crank to 30watts than sure it’s audible, but at least to me, not distracting.

The screen looks a lot bigger than the decks, it’s a really great IPS display that will rival some of the best LCD displays out there.

The battery kind of sucks. I don’t try to sugar coat it and or lie. It’s probably not the best device to take on a 6hr trip as it will bleed the battery in 2hrs playing a really intensive game. Tho if you take a power bank I guess this won’t matter.

[invision2212]

Originally posted by N:

Originally posted by invision2212:

I’ve had the lenovo legion go since launch and had nothing but a great experience with it. So much that I don’t really touch the steam deck anymore.

The speakers don’t suck on it. The EQ was the issue and simply changing it made the speakers sound so much better. The speakers have bass, which is something the deck does not have.

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is. The legion go with windows wipes the floor with the deck in terms of gaming and productivity. The CPU in the legion go is a desktop equivalent while the decks is more of a mobile phone chip.

My android handheld ( Odin 2 Portal ) has more power than the steam deck at half the price.

sounds like you dont mind bloatware, LMM gimmicks and breaches of personal privacy. its cool if it doesnt affect your workflow, but its still a big issue for a lot of people. deck is private, valve doesnt sell your data. a lot of windows programs run serviceably with wine or proton. more still have FOSS linux alternatives. Deck is just as capable at productivity. is just not as powerful. it makes up for that with a really juicy battery letting me make music for like 3 hours with no outlet. less powerful programs run for up to 12 hours on a charge.

I really don’t use the legion go for much other than games and some other small tasks like compressing files, and making use of Rufus.

I’ve went through all the processes and boot files and wiped out everything and only left windows what it needs. Some stuff just can’t be removed. I went from 8gb of startup crap down to 3.5gb or so on the Ram. I’ve just never had an issue personally with windows 10/11

[N]

all the stuff you removed is why people dont like windows, also windows doesnt have the best interface for tablets, never did.

[Drak3]

Originally posted by invision2212:

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is.

Baked in spyware via Recall and Telemetry.
Forced updates from a company whose "recent" (going back 10 years) history has updates breaking things for many people.
Baked in adware.
Baked in bloatware.
Reduced control over your system with Windows.
Regressing touchscreen GUI design.

Windows is overbearing. Windows is tedious to use. If it weren't for the Microsoft's licensing deals with OEMs making them the only non Apple option in most storefronts, Windows would not be as widely used as it is.

Quite frankly, Windows has become borderline malware.

Originally posted by invision2212:

The CPU in the legion go is a desktop equivalent while the decks is more of a mobile phone chip.price.

The Z1 Extreme is literally a neutered 7840u. It's far from a desktop equivalent.

Originally posted by invision2212:

I’ve had the lenovo legion go since launch and had nothing but a great experience with it.

I own a Legion Go. It sits around and collects dust because the software is ****, the ergonomics are ****, and Lenovo would rather dress up the problems in new clothes than actually fix them.
Legion Space has had GUI updates, but it's still the same sluggish, feature incomplete slog of bloatware. Third party software doesn't even reach the level of control as Legion Space, so it's either cripple the go with bad software or vastly imcomplete software.
The Go is so much better under Linux, but an objective software upgrade over the ****ware it comes with still doesn't fix the ergonomics.

[@R+5]

Originally posted by Cheese Wonton:

Garry’s mod, Cod BO3, GTA V and older games.

always check first protondb when you are not sure if a game may run or not. also the website of "lutris" and maybe even "wine".

https://www.protondb.com/search?q=gta+5

https://www.protondb.com/search?q=Garry
https://www.protondb.com/app/4000

https://www.protondb.com/app/311210

depending which "older" games you want to play, often many will run in linux, even when windows is unable. it seems all run with minor issues.

ie garrys has a native version for linux, but using proton to install the windows version seems to offer better results.

[@R+5]

Originally posted by Drak3:

Baked in spyware via Recall and Telemetry.
Forced updates from a company whose "recent" (going back 10 years) history has updates breaking things for many people.
Baked in adware.
Baked in bloatware.
Reduced control over your system with Windows.
Regressing touchscreen GUI design.

"copilot" is one of the most nasty bs someone has come up with to mine everything done by users.

also, i think they used to be behind the antivirus business, and im not sure if it was confined at least once how they helped devs making malware and viruses to lead people into adopting antivirus software. kind of crazy a similar thing is what later bill gates tried with big pharma (and still is trying to).

as side note, now it seems mozilla (responsible of firefox) are following their footsteps with some new changes the they are trying to force as "internet standards". and the worst aspect, is that it seems they were part of the groups that was getting money from the "usaids + ngos" scam (hopefully a legal process will stop that nonsense, and maybe a fork based in firefox 100% free of mozilla will become available; i like "LibreWolf", but since it depends in ff, who knows how all this bs affects it)

Use Firefox? Mozilla Says it Can Use Your Data However it Wants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubtWZwtJCdw

W3C Standardizes Mozilla Developed Spying Technology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wry21KZdhE

Another obv annoyance you forgot to include about windows, is the lack of control to change the appearance of the desktop.

in their brilliance, microsoft even made many years ago the "dark theme" a "luxury feature" (the dark theme or dark mode, was very requested for many years and ignored), and almost everything related to customisation costs money in windows.

then, few third part apps (paid) did offered more options, but to be able to change the ui sometimes did stuff that could break the system and make it unstable.

all that, and more, while also trying to sabotage adopting of linux in every way they could. (including breaking dual booting systems "accidentally"). people used to joke how bill gates was the devil, but it took some years of bs to confirm how deceptive and bad he and his businesses are. is like an actual super-villain, lol. compared to him, musk almost looks like a normal person, even with all his quirks and "peculiarities".

Originally posted by Drak3:

Quite frankly, Windows has become borderline malware.

is evil-ware, lol

[Murasakino Rin]

Originally posted by invision2212:

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is.

Baked in spyware via Recall and Telemetry.
Forced updates from a company whose "recent" (going back 10 years) history has updates breaking things for many people.
Baked in adware.
Baked in bloatware.
Reduced control over your system with Windows.
Regressing touchscreen GUI design.

pretty much this. every more recent version of windows has gotten less user friendly (ex. making certain settings harder and harder to change)

windows update will also just install more unwanted programs to your computer because they think you need those apps. we dont.

Quite frankly, Windows has become borderline malware.

is evil-ware, lol

and the slogan is "its no longer "your" computer, its our computer."

[jautja]

Everything is described in simple words, not mine
“Steam Deck is a device from gamers to gamers.
ROG is a device from marketers to gamers.”
The choice is simple and obvious

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by invision2212:

I’ve had the lenovo legion go since launch and had nothing but a great experience with it. So much that I don’t really touch the steam deck anymore.

The speakers don’t suck on it. The EQ was the issue and simply changing it made the speakers sound so much better. The speakers have bass, which is something the deck does not have.

And I don’t know what peoples hang up with windows is. The legion go with windows wipes the floor with the deck in terms of gaming and productivity. The CPU in the legion go is a desktop equivalent while the decks is more of a mobile phone chip.

My android handheld ( Odin 2 Portal ) has more power than the steam deck at half the price.

This is true. I'm also using windows on my convertible laptop, which is just an amazing combo. Touch support is flawless, it's great for note taking ,popint & click games and priceless in regards to the productivity aspect.

That's no surprise why navigating windows with touch on my deck feels a lot better than navigating through steam os, which feels so much more bloated and less intuitive.

Also I hope there will be a handheld with active stylus support one day.