Problem with charge

[Darkblue]

I have a problem with charging the steam deck, basically (using a watt meter) normally the steam deck when turned off has a consumption of about 25w but stops at about 10w with both a third-party charger and with the original charger then randomly while I play (I don't know at what point) the wattage returns to full power and as soon as I turn it off it goes to 25w instead of 10w, has anyone had the same problem? does anyone know how to solve it? thanks to anyone who can give me support.

[Punkovich]

What part of what you are describing is the "problem"? if you plug it in and it manages to power the unit while also charging the battery, then it is fine. And yes, it will draw less power as the battery approaches full charge.

[Darkblue]

Originally posted by Punkovich:

What part of what you are describing is the "problem"? if you plug it in and it manages to power the unit while also charging the battery, then it is fine. And yes, it will draw less power as the battery approaches full charge.

the problem is that even if I have 20% the charge will always go to 10w when off if it doesn't unlock as I wrote

[ReBoot]

Background: keeping Lithium batteries constantly fully-cgraged is REALLY bad for their health. Stupid people therefor insist on unplugging the Deck when the battery reaches 90% (or 80%). Smart people have found out that the Deck perfotms what Im calling "battery health dance" meaning it will occasionally let the battery discharge, then charge it, then let it discharge and so on and so forth. Rather obviously, it draws more power when charging rh battery than when it, doesn't charge it. Jsut let it be. You don't observe any problems, the only problem that you have is that you're imagining a problem.

[Darkblue]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Background: keeping Lithium batteries constantly fully-cgraged is REALLY bad for their health. Stupid people therefor insist on unplugging the Deck when the battery reaches 90% (or 80%). Smart people have found out that the Deck perfotms what Im calling "battery health dance" meaning it will occasionally let the battery discharge, then charge it, then let it discharge and so on and so forth. Rather obviously, it draws more power when charging rh battery than when it, doesn't charge it. Jsut let it be. You don't observe any problems, the only problem that you have is that you're imagining a problem.

no, I already wrote the problem and it doesn't unlock in any other way and the battery indicator has nothing to do with the charging power

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by Darkblue:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Background: keeping Lithium batteries constantly fully-cgraged is REALLY bad for their health. Stupid people therefor insist on unplugging the Deck when the battery reaches 90% (or 80%). Smart people have found out that the Deck perfotms what Im calling "battery health dance" meaning it will occasionally let the battery discharge, then charge it, then let it discharge and so on and so forth. Rather obviously, it draws more power when charging rh battery than when it, doesn't charge it. Jsut let it be. You don't observe any problems, the only problem that you have is that you're imagining a problem.

no, I already wrote the problem and it doesn't unlock in any other way and the battery indicator has nothing to do with the charging power

What exactly is the problem? So far, you've described that your Deck's power consumption fluctuates. This isn't a problem, that's just the way it is.

[Darkblue]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by Darkblue:

no, I already wrote the problem and it doesn't unlock in any other way and the battery indicator has nothing to do with the charging power

What exactly is the problem? So far, you've described that your Deck's power consumption fluctuates. This isn't a problem, that's just the way it is.

for some time now the steam deck instead of charging at 25w when off or about 45w when on while I play, charges at 10w when off and about 20w when on then after a while that I play the power increases to normal operation and if I then turn it off instead of blocking at 10w it charges normally at 25w this happens whether I have little battery or a lot of battery

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by Darkblue:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

What exactly is the problem? So far, you've described that your Deck's power consumption fluctuates. This isn't a problem, that's just the way it is.

for some time now the steam deck instead of charging at 25w when off or about 45w when on while I play, charges at 10w when off and about 20w when on then after a while that I play the power increases to normal operation and if I then turn it off instead of blocking at 10w it charges normally at 25w this happens whether I have little battery or a lot of battery

Yes, you're observing fluctuations in power consumption. That isn't a problem, that is to be expected due to, among other things, that battery health dance I described earlier.

That's something the Deck does BY DESIGN. Pro tip: "by design" means you don't have a problem.

So let's take a few steps back, how exactly is that fluctuating power consumption a problem? Do you not get full charge? Does your Deck die a minute after you unplug it? Please describe the problem as A PROBLEM, not "im observing some stuff here".

[Darkblue]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by Darkblue:

for some time now the steam deck instead of charging at 25w when off or about 45w when on while I play, charges at 10w when off and about 20w when on then after a while that I play the power increases to normal operation and if I then turn it off instead of blocking at 10w it charges normally at 25w this happens whether I have little battery or a lot of battery

Yes, you're observing fluctuations in power consumption. That isn't a problem, that is to be expected due to, among other things, that battery health dance I described earlier.

That's something the Deck does BY DESIGN. Pro tip: "by design" means you don't have a problem.

So let's take a few steps back, how exactly is that fluctuating power consumption a problem? Do you not get full charge? Does your Deck die a minute after you unplug it? Please describe the problem as A PROBLEM, not "im observing some stuff here".

there is no fluctuation,
simply as soon as I plug it in it locks at 10w,
but if I play with it it goes up to 20w (because I turned it on) and randomly increases to 45w (at full power)
if I then turn it off instead of locking itself again at 10w like before this time it goes to 25w.
Because at 10w it will never be able to recharge in 3 hours like it should do.

[Darkblue]

before this mess the steam deck normally charged at 25w when off

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by Darkblue:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Yes, you're observing fluctuations in power consumption. That isn't a problem, that is to be expected due to, among other things, that battery health dance I described earlier.

That's something the Deck does BY DESIGN. Pro tip: "by design" means you don't have a problem.

So let's take a few steps back, how exactly is that fluctuating power consumption a problem? Do you not get full charge? Does your Deck die a minute after you unplug it? Please describe the problem as A PROBLEM, not "im observing some stuff here".

there is no fluctuation,
simply as soon as I plug it in it locks at 10w,
but if I play with it it goes up to 20w (because I turned it on) and randomly increases to 45w (at full power)
if I then turn it off instead of locking itself again at 10w like before this time it goes to 25w.
Because at 10w it will never be able to recharge in 3 hours like it should do.

... now we're getting somewhere. So it's about the Deck taking long to charge/charging too slow, is that correct?

[Darkblue]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by Darkblue:

there is no fluctuation,
simply as soon as I plug it in it locks at 10w,
but if I play with it it goes up to 20w (because I turned it on) and randomly increases to 45w (at full power)
if I then turn it off instead of locking itself again at 10w like before this time it goes to 25w.
Because at 10w it will never be able to recharge in 3 hours like it should do.

... now we're getting somewhere. So it's about the Deck taking long to charge, is that correct?

it's like I'm charging the steam deck when it's off with a 5v 2a charger instead of the required power (the problem is not the power supply because it does it with all of them)
a little while ago I used some different chargers initially it started at 10w (even with the original) then after I changed the rotating power supplies now it goes to 25w and probably tonight or tomorrow it will get stuck again at 10w, unless the power supply board of the steam deck is damaged and spins randomly.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by Darkblue:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

... now we're getting somewhere. So it's about the Deck taking long to charge, is that correct?

it's like I'm charging the steam deck when it's off with a 5v 2a charger instead of the required power (the problem is not the power supply because it does it with all of them)
a little while ago I used some different chargers initially it started at 10w (even with the original) then after I changed the rotating power supplies now it goes to 25w and probably tonight or tomorrow it will get stuck again at 10w, unless the power supply board of the steam deck is damaged and spins randomly.

Forget the power readings! Your power meter's reading isn't a problem! Your Deck using 10W isn't a problem IF IT DOESN'T NEED MORE. Now the question is whether it does.

If the battery charges waaaay to slow, now that's a problem. We can check whether you have such a case, whether your battery does charge slow. I can guide you through this. Do you want to follow me through getting to the bottom of all this?

[Darkblue]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by Darkblue:

it's like I'm charging the steam deck when it's off with a 5v 2a charger instead of the required power (the problem is not the power supply because it does it with all of them)
a little while ago I used some different chargers initially it started at 10w (even with the original) then after I changed the rotating power supplies now it goes to 25w and probably tonight or tomorrow it will get stuck again at 10w, unless the power supply board of the steam deck is damaged and spins randomly.

Forget the power! Your power meter's reading isn't a problem! Your Deck using 10W isn't a problem IF IT DOESN'T NEED MORE.

If the battery charges waaaay to slow, now that's a problem. We can check whether you have such a case, whether your battery does charge slow. I can guide you through this. Do you want to follow me through getting to the bottom of all this?

I'll do something this evening, I'll load the steam deck at 10w like it always does and see if it reaches 100% in 3 hours, if necessary I'll update this evening or tomorrow, formatting is not necessary because I've already tried it

[ReBoot]

100% from empty? I suggest completely discharging the battery to get useful results. I mean, what's the point in measuring charging from 0,9 to 1. Also, don't limit power. "I'll load the Steam Deck at 10W" reads like you're going to make sure it'll be 10W and nothing else. Don't do that. Just plug it in and let it do it's thing all by itself.

Hell, omit the power meter! Just test whether it goes form 0 to 1 in those 3h, ignore everything else.

[Darkblue]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

100% from empty? I suggest completely discharging the battery to get useful results. I mean, what's the point in measuring charging from 0,9 to 1. Also, don't limit power. "I'll load the Steam Deck at 10W" reads like you're going to make sure it'll be 10W and nothing else. Don't do that. Just plug it in and let it do it's thing all by itself.

Hell, omit the power meter! Just test whether it goes form 0 to 1 in those 3h, ignore everything else.

I meant that if the power supply locks at 10w by itself, not that I lock it