FL Studio 2024 Crashes Entire SteamDeck

[N]

i have spent many hours on this, trying to get fl running on wine, lutris, bottles, proton, etc.

it appears that any recent version of fl studio, 2024+, causes my deck to reboot, regardless of what mode I am in.

i have checked reddit and found that everyone installing FL within the last couple of months is having the exact same issue.

i would very much like help resolving this issue, because fl studio working on wine was one of the main reasons i bought my deck. it was just working fine last year.....

[N]

it would seriously be amazing if valve could do a little more R&D into windows program functionality. we are so dang close to being free of that garbage....

[Violet❤]

FL Studio is not a steam game so you can't exactly expect them to put in the work to fix it (although it's probably one of the plans for proton if they want Linux to dominate the market).

Where you should be directing your issues in this case is Wine as they focus more on making general applications work.

[N]

Originally posted by Violet❤:

FL Studio is not a steam game so you can't exactly expect them to put in the work to fix it (although it's probably one of the plans for proton if they want Linux to dominate the market).

Where you should be directing your issues in this case is Wine as they focus more on making general applications work.

i would be inclined to agree with you except for the fact that this is a problem unique to the steam deck. it also just recently happened, as theres no documentation of it older than 3 months. the wine team doesnt have unlimited access to steam decks, so they are limited in what they can do. ive already browsed the topic on their side. fl studio runs gold-platinum on other linux distros, just not this one.

[eros71]

I wanted to goof around and also gave installing FL on the Deck a try, I got it to run except that right after it loaded the whole decive crashed and rebooted, in my case using Proton Experimental, and I did notice that the library tab was completely black. I get that it's not even intended for this use case but it was cool to see it almost running nonetheless.

[[?]legit]

Why people are willing to run "heavy" windows programs on linux through compatibility layers, emulators or vms is something I'll never understand. Either ask the developer to support linux as a platform, or install the OS for which this application has been developed for.

Thankfully FL studio isn't the most resource heavy program, so you could in theory run the windows version on a linux machine (for whatever good it may do), but as you can see proton does exactly what it does most of the times, it crashes.

[N]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Why people are willing to run "heavy" windows programs on linux through compatibility layers, emulators or vms is something I'll never understand. Either ask the developer to support linux as a platform, or install the OS for which this application has been developed for.

Thankfully FL studio isn't the most resource heavy program, so you could in theory run the windows version on a linux machine (for whatever good it may do), but as you can see proton does exactly what it does most of the times, it crashes.

That is quite a cynical mindset. I don't suppose you have sources to back up your claim that proton "crashes most of the time" because, that hasn't been my experience at all.

The only windows programs I've come across that dont boot in proton is Sunset Overdrive and Doom 3 BFG Edition. Everything else I've thrown at it boots up just fine.

Furthermore, Compatibility layers are extremely important. many developers outright refuse to even consider linux (as is the case for Image-Line themselves, they literally delete posts on the forums if you criticize the operating systems they DO support, and have publically stated they have no interest in developing for linux)

There's also the fact that nothing ever stays the same. I bought my $250 FL Studio license back in 2010. Back then, windows was somewhat agreeable, and Apple had just gotten to the end of what I would consider their "golden age" of hardware, right before the Retina and Air models released, showing apple's full intention to eliminate DIY repairability.

Things have obviously changed since then. Everyone is trying to suck every morsel of data they can out of your life so they can regurgitate it back at you, trying to get you to buy more stuff.
companies that existed back then have been restructured or shut down, support for a lot of software goes away when that happens. How do you ask a company that no longer exists to port their code? LLMS have infested everything in the digital space, and are now running by default on mac and windows. Windows has ads that play within the file explorer for christ's sake.

It's gotten to the point where I do not feel comfortable using mac or windows for ANYTHING, let alone personal reasons. I switched to linux right around the time that covid hit the USA. I only got my steam deck 4 months ago. I will not touch pc, mac, or even stock Android for that matter, until they go FOSS and stop vacuuming up data (which probably wont ever happen.)

I think linux is the only way out of the dystopian technofeudalistic society we've built around us.

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by N:

Originally posted by ?legit:

Why people are willing to run "heavy" windows programs on linux through compatibility layers, emulators or vms is something I'll never understand. Either ask the developer to support linux as a platform, or install the OS for which this application has been developed for.

Thankfully FL studio isn't the most resource heavy program, so you could in theory run the windows version on a linux machine (for whatever good it may do), but as you can see proton does exactly what it does most of the times, it crashes.

That is quite a cynical mindset. I don't suppose you have sources to back up your claim that proton "crashes most of the time" because, that hasn't been my experience at all.

Well in this regard proton not only crashes, most of the time the programs simply won't start. Have you ever tried to get adobe programs/ plugins running on proton? It's a nightmare. Not impossible, but absolutely useless because as you get exactly 0% benefits in terms of performance etc that you would get with a proper native linux program such as blender for example.

This isn't a steam issue, nor a proton one, it's the devs fault for not providing a native linux version. I don't think there's much more to say to this. If you really expect proton to replace native linux development you should think again.

[N]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Originally posted by N:

That is quite a cynical mindset. I don't suppose you have sources to back up your claim that proton "crashes most of the time" because, that hasn't been my experience at all.

Well in this regard proton not only crashes, most of the time the programs simply won't start. Have you ever tried to get adobe programs/ plugins running on proton? It's a nightmare. Not impossible, but absolutely useless because as you get exactly 0% benefits in terms of performance etc that you would get with a proper native linux program such as blender for example.

This isn't a steam issue, nor a proton one, it's the devs fault for not providing a native linux version. I don't think there's much more to say to this. If you really expect proton to replace native linux development you should think again.

Well first off, adobe is trash, and secondly, I never said I wanted proton to replace native linux development. Do not insert extra meaning into my words, thats rude.
As I said, I've been running linux for around 5 years now and once I learned how it works to an acceptable degree, I stopped having problems. I have linux running on my roommate's PC as well, and everything he's interested in runs flawlessly. just because it isnt as good as native linux development, does not make it any less important to the preservation of software long-term.

Furthermore, a LOT of linux native versions of apps and games are either unstable, or just refuse to launch, while the windows version through proton runs perfectly. I'm afraid your stance of proton always crashing just doesn't hold water.

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by N:

Furthermore, a LOT of linux native versions of apps and games are either unstable, or just refuse to launch, while the windows version through proton runs perfectly. I'm afraid your stance of proton always crashing just doesn't hold water.

This is 100% false and proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.

The Linux versions of programs such as resolve, houdini, blender, etc... are FAR sperior in terms of stability and performance compared to the respective windows versions, and therefore greatly preferred by professionals.

[N]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Originally posted by N:

Furthermore, a LOT of linux native versions of apps and games are either unstable, or just refuse to launch, while the windows version through proton runs perfectly. I'm afraid your stance of proton always crashing just doesn't hold water.

This is 100% false and proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.

The Linux versions of programs such as resolve, houdini, blender, etc... are FAR sperior in terms of stability and performance compared to the respective windows versions, and therefore greatly preferred by professionals.

I'm not talking about houdini, blender, etc.

I'm talking about depreciated software and VIDEO GAMES.

There are a lot of games that have straight up borked linux ports, the first psychonauts being one of them. if you regularly use older software or games that no longer have active support, and you recognize and denounce how bad windows and mac are now, Proton is really important.

I think you're still missing the point.

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by N:

Originally posted by ?legit:

This is 100% false and proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.

The Linux versions of programs such as resolve, houdini, blender, etc... are FAR sperior in terms of stability and performance compared to the respective windows versions, and therefore greatly preferred by professionals.

I'm not talking about houdini, blender, etc.

I'm talking about depreciated software and VIDEO GAMES.

There are a lot of games that have straight up borked linux ports, the first psychonauts being one of them. if you regularly use older software or games that no longer have active support, and you recognize and denounce how bad windows and mac are now, Proton is really important.

FL Studio is depreciated software? (assuming you mean deprecated, as 'depreciated' is often used mistakenly to refer to deprecated in programing) Interesting.

Originally posted by N:

I think you're still missing the point.

Which point? Proton fails as you're trying to use it way beyond its limits.

[N]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Originally posted by N:

I'm not talking about houdini, blender, etc.

I'm talking about depreciated software and VIDEO GAMES.

There are a lot of games that have straight up borked linux ports, the first psychonauts being one of them. if you regularly use older software or games that no longer have active support, and you recognize and denounce how bad windows and mac are now, Proton is really important.

FL Studio is depreciated software? (assuming you mean deprecated, as 'depreciated' is often used mistakenly to refer to deprecated in programing) Interesting.

Originally posted by N:

I think you're still missing the point.

Which point? Proton fails as you're trying to use it way beyond its limits.

I never said fl studio was depreciated. I'm trying to explain why proton is important, but you're still not listening, and you're putting words in my mouth and I don't much care for it.

You are telling me that proton fails and always crashes. That may be your experience, and thats fair. Everyone experiences life differently. I'm trying to tell you that my own experience completely contradicts yours. Proton was built to run games and other software running on similar systems to those games. It wasn't built to run blender or the other programs you mentioned.

When you use proton correctly, it works 95% of the time as evidenced by the hundreds of thousands of reports on www.protondb.com

If valve were to put an equal amount of R&D into getting more "professional" applications working through a compatability layer, I'm certain those would run quite smoothly as well.

I've been using proton to run FL studio as well as most of my steam library, with no crashing or issues after initial set-up.

Your insistence that proton doesn't work is just false man.

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by N:

Originally posted by ?legit:

FL Studio is depreciated software? (assuming you mean deprecated, as 'depreciated' is often used mistakenly to refer to deprecated in programing) Interesting.


Which point? Proton fails as you're trying to use it way beyond its limits.

I never said fl studio was depreciated. I'm trying to explain why proton is important, but you're still not listening, and you're putting words in my mouth and I don't much care for it.

You are telling me that proton fails and always crashes. That may be your experience, and thats fair. Everyone experiences life differently. I'm trying to tell you that my own experience completely contradicts yours. Proton was built to run games and other software running on similar systems to those games. It wasn't built to run blender or the other programs you mentioned.

When you use proton correctly, it works 95% of the time as evidenced by the hundreds of thousands of reports on www.protondb.com

If valve were to put an equal amount of R&D into getting more "professional" applications working through a compatability layer, I'm certain those would run quite smoothly as well.

I've been using proton to run FL studio as well as most of my steam library, with no crashing or issues after initial set-up.

Your insistence that proton doesn't work is just false man.

So proton is great, almost always works and there are no issues. And yet you made this thread... lol.

The issue you are describing is exactly my experience, both for non steam games and software, where it's actally a lot worse. Just because something is working now doesn't mean it will work in the future as well. One single update could bring the house of cards crashing down.

That's why I always used to shiver when a new battlenet update came out, because there is a chance something gets borked and I can no longer play my games.

As mentioned before, ask the devs to support the program for linux, or use it on the OS it was developed for.

[N]

Originally posted by ?legit:

So proton is great, almost always works and there are no issues. And yet you made this thread... lol.

The issue you are describing is exactly my experience, both for non steam games and software, where it's actally a lot worse. Just because something is working now doesn't mean it will work in the future as well. One single update could bring the house of cards crashing down.

That's why I always used to shiver when a new battlenet update came out, because there is a chance something gets borked and I can no longer play my games.

As mentioned before, ask the devs to support the program for linux, or use it on the OS it was developed for.

there is no way you are doing this on purpose. I really think you've got some weird eye problems going on here, because I stated in no uncertain terms that proton isn't the issue.

FL studio works gold-platinum on proton. The steam deck itself is the issue. A recent kernel update caused my problem, not proton.

Please get seen by a doctor ASAP, I'm concerned for your mental health.