Windows 11 Latest APU Driver leads to black screen.

[SpooglyWoogly]

I'ved tried 20 installs so far.
Each time I updated windows 11, factory reset, even use display driver uninstaller short of a reformat nothing works. It always leads to a black screen on boot followed by a reboot which leads to windows detecting a boot issue and then I go into safe mode uninstall the driver.

The original APU drivers install just fine every time. IDK what is up with the recent APU drivers provided by Steam/AMD. IDK what else I can do to get it to install so I can get Audio Drivers.

[@R+5]

the deck doesnt work well with windows. most people will advice you against it, because all the issues and problems that cant be solved, and are unlikely going to be solved soon or ever (valve wants to distance themselves from microsoft).

also, if you only want to use the deck to play games, its more likely you will able to find how to run it with steam os in the deck, than trying to make it work in windows.

[Prezidentas]

that's what you get for trying to install Windows

[givesnofawkes]

Originally posted by @R+5:

also, if you only want to use the deck to play games, its more likely you will able to find how to run it with steam os in the deck, than trying to make it work in windows.

The entire steam library was designed for windows. You should have more access to games by installing windows 10

[Prezidentas]

Originally posted by givesnofawkes:

Originally posted by @R+5:

also, if you only want to use the deck to play games, its more likely you will able to find how to run it with steam os in the deck, than trying to make it work in windows.

The entire steam library was designed for windows. You should have more access to games by installing windows 10

is it really "greater access" if the battery runs out faster and you don't get easy access to limit fps and GPU power states?

[@R+5]

Originally posted by givesnofawkes:

The entire steam library was designed for windows. You should have more access to games by installing windows 10

if you cared to research how things actually work, you woulnd think that.

short version:
valve doesnt want to promote windows in the deck, and doesnt need to.

long version:
devs usually make games only thinking in windows because thats what they can afford: making the same game work in different platforms and os means more time in development. also people that code for linux are more scarce than those that code for windows, because microsoft has a big influence in education (and many other fields obviously), and also usually most people start using a computer that has windows preinstalled including wannabe coders.

thats one thing, the other:
most if not all games made by Valve are and were made also for linux, and steam was also made thinking to work in steam os for the "steam machines" plan, which was rushed and failed. valve since day one wanted to be free from the influence and control of microsoft, which is why they have supported linux development.

the steam deck is like "steam machines v2", and its been a long time many devs and people have worked to improved compat with windows software in linux, because unlike windows and apple os, linux os isnt locked behind copyright and other traps that are meant to take away control from the users, and make them dependent of the whims of microsoft.

complementary stuff:
smart people dont want to pay rent to have access to programs, or become "locked in a cloud": smart people want to be able to own the copies of their programs, and have the option to modify and control them however they like and need. supporting windows is also supporting that "anti-consumer" (more "anti-human" imo) approach.

[mix]

Originally posted by @R+5:

Originally posted by givesnofawkes:

The entire steam library was designed for windows. You should have more access to games by installing windows 10

if you cared to research how things actually work, you woulnd think that.

short version:
valve doesnt want to promote windows in the deck, and doesnt need to.

long version:
devs usually make games only thinking in windows because thats what they can afford: making the same game work in different platforms and os means more time in development. also people that code for linux are more scarce than those that code for windows, because microsoft has a big influence in education (and many other fields obviously), and also usually most people start using a computer that has windows preinstalled including wannabe coders.

thats one thing, the other:
most if not all games made by Valve are and were made also for linux, and steam was also made thinking to work in steam os for the "steam machines" plan, which was rushed and failed. valve since day one wanted to be free from the influence and control of microsoft, which is why they have supported linux development.

the steam deck is like "steam machines v2", and its been a long time many devs and people have worked to improved compat with windows software in linux, because unlike windows and apple os, linux os isnt locked behind copyright and other traps that are meant to take away control from the users, and make them dependent of the whims of microsoft.

complementary stuff:
smart people dont want to pay rent to have access to programs, or become "locked in a cloud": smart people want to be able to own the copies of their programs, and have the option to modify and control them however they like and need. supporting windows is also supporting that "anti-consumer" (more "anti-human" imo) approach.

that is quite an opinion. i think if you like windows, use it. this is why dual booting exists.

Originally posted by SpooglyWoogly:

I'ved tried 20 installs so far.
Each time I updated windows 11, factory reset, even use display driver uninstaller short of a reformat nothing works. It always leads to a black screen on boot followed by a reboot which leads to windows detecting a boot issue and then I go into safe mode uninstall the driver.

The original APU drivers install just fine every time. IDK what is up with the recent APU drivers provided by Steam/AMD. IDK what else I can do to get it to install so I can get Audio Drivers.

i think the deck isnt as powerful for windows 11 yet. my deck hasnt confirmed i can upgrade to windows 11 like my other pcs do. although i havent used 11 yet out of fear of incompatibility. if you dont mind, what interests you to choose 11 over 10?

[rkt]

I have the same issue. Windows 11 Pro To Go, installed on a microSD card via Rufus.

Did all system updates without issues, went to install the dedicated drivers. APU Driver starts installing then screen goes blank and after some time Deck reboots several times, eventually landing on Windows recovery page.
Going for Safe Mode and uninstalling the APU driver lets me start Windows again. But the same thing if i try to install again.

Glad to see i'm not the only one. I guess we'll have to wait for updated drivers, hopefully the next version will fix it.

As for my reasons for Windows - mostly to be able to play Gamepass games natively

[mix]

Originally posted by rkt:

I have the same issue. Windows 11 Pro To Go, installed on a microSD card via Rufus.

Did all system updates without issues, went to install the dedicated drivers. APU Driver starts installing then screen goes blank and after some time Deck reboots several times, eventually landing on Windows recovery page.
Going for Safe Mode and uninstalling the APU driver lets me start Windows again. But the same thing if i try to install again.

Glad to see i'm not the only one. I guess we'll have to wait for updated drivers, hopefully the next version will fix it.

As for my reasons for Windows - mostly to be able to play Gamepass games natively

which sd card did you use? i tried windows to go on a a1 sd card and it was so slow and it freezed up many times. i have an a2 card now but i just went with putting windows on the emmc and it runs perfect now. i got a 512 ssd coming in tomorrow.

i get windows, im just wondering why 11 over 10

[rkt]

Originally posted by mix:

Originally posted by rkt:

I have the same issue. Windows 11 Pro To Go, installed on a microSD card via Rufus.

Did all system updates without issues, went to install the dedicated drivers. APU Driver starts installing then screen goes blank and after some time Deck reboots several times, eventually landing on Windows recovery page.
Going for Safe Mode and uninstalling the APU driver lets me start Windows again. But the same thing if i try to install again.

Glad to see i'm not the only one. I guess we'll have to wait for updated drivers, hopefully the next version will fix it.

As for my reasons for Windows - mostly to be able to play Gamepass games natively

which sd card did you use? i tried windows to go on a a1 sd card and it was so slow and it freezed up many times. i have an a2 card now but i just went with putting windows on the emmc and it runs perfect now. i got a 512 ssd coming in tomorrow.

i get windows, im just wondering why 11 over 10

It is Samsung Evo Plus 256GB. It is an A2 card. It works okay, not perfect, but i didn't test any games since i can't install the drivers. As for why 11 - i've heard it's better suited for touchscreens, but if 10 works okay then i might try 10. Now the dilemma, do i reformat for 10 or wait for few days to maybe find a solution for 11...

Exact model is MB-MC256KA/EU.

[Sleepy Buddha]

I always find it highly amusing that some people seem terrified others might try Windows on the Deck and actually have a good experience. Valve themselves mentioned the Deck is a PC and anyone can do whatever they want with it. Offering support for Windows is understandably not Valve's responsability, but providing functional drivers should not be an issue either.

You can talk ♥♥♥♥ about Windows and prop up SteamOS all you like. But as long as the vast majority of very popular games like Destiny 2, Halo Infinite, Lost Ark, etc. are not supported on SteamOS there is a valid use case for Windows on the deck.

I like SteamOS but am increasingly getting frustrated by the amount of games, especially recent ones I want to play on it and can't because they're not supported and probably won't be due to the small market size for SteamOS. And forcing Deck users to use SteamOS won't change that.

[mix]

Originally posted by rkt:

Originally posted by mix:

which sd card did you use? i tried windows to go on a a1 sd card and it was so slow and it freezed up many times. i have an a2 card now but i just went with putting windows on the emmc and it runs perfect now. i got a 512 ssd coming in tomorrow.

i get windows, im just wondering why 11 over 10

It is Samsung Evo Plus 256GB. It is an A2 card. It works okay, not perfect, but i didn't test any games since i can't install the drivers. As for why 11 - i've heard it's better suited for touchscreens, but if 10 works okay then i might try 10. Now the dilemma, do i reformat for 10 or wait for few days to maybe find a solution for 11...

Exact model is MB-MC256KA/EU.

you could try making a partition in the sd, i thinkkk you can do that and put 10 on the partition and dual boot that to try it out because it works with the drivers no problem, or since your going with sd you can get another one of those, while you wait for that solution for 11

Originally posted by Sleepy Buddha:

I always find it highly amusing that some people seem terrified others might try Windows on the Deck and actually have a good experience. Valve themselves mentioned the Deck is a PC and anyone can do whatever they want with it. Offering support for Windows is understandably not Valve's responsability, but providing functional drivers should not be an issue either.

You can talk ♥♥♥♥ about Windows and prop up SteamOS all you like. But as long as the vast majority of very popular games like Destiny 2, Halo Infinite, Lost Ark, etc. are not supported on SteamOS there is a valid use case for Windows on the deck.

I like SteamOS but am increasingly getting frustrated by the amount of games, especially recent ones I want to play on it and can't because they're not supported and probably won't be due to the small market size for SteamOS. And forcing Deck users to use SteamOS won't change that.

valve fan boys just want to feel superior and try to convince everyone to believe only one way is the right way. i love valve and how they approach software and making things open source, we should appreciate they options they gave us right out the box. these "your fault for using windows" guys are making their whole thing seem like a cult, and that just makes them look worse imo. I get that Steam OS will have the priority with updates, its their system. windows could work on their own updates as well, both sides can help. at the end of the day, there are different opinions, but both have different advantages and the end user can find their own path. we shouldnt try to say one way is the only way and attack others that dont follow. we all want steam decks to be a good way for everyone to get into portable pc gaming so let people decide what they want to do with theirs. help us grow or find a different topic to discuss os superiority because a person trying to get windows to work doesnt want to hear they are wrong for even trying, just like you said valve let us do it. if they love valve so much, respect that.

[rkt]

I went for Windows 10 To Go after all. No issues so far - drivers work, there's audio. I feel it's faster than Windows 11, so it might be a better choice after all.

[Valeriya]

Compared to performance, windows literally sucks on steam decks, windows 11 is even worse on PCs, let alone a console designed specifically to run well on linux.

[mix]

Originally posted by 𝓑𝓵𝓾𝓮𝓫𝓲𝓻𝓭:

Compared to performance, windows literally sucks on steam decks, windows 11 is even worse on PCs, let alone a console designed specifically to run well on linux.

well, if you install it on the drive inside the deck, it runs well. most touch screen windows experiences get a lot of bad judgement, but in my experiences, i quite enjoy it, and its widely more open to all types of games and programs than the Steam OS, and with Steam OS you gotta use the flatpak code in console to get chrome to recognize controllers, ive waited long times for games to load until I realized i should restart the system first, and theres just a lot I can't play on Steam OS.

Besides the restraints on software and games, I still think Windows is pretty fluid on Steam Deck using the best install solutions and setting up things like touch screen keyboard in the task bar, and using best performance in the battery settings.

[SpooglyWoogly]

I installed
On an ssd win 11 Togo and got all latest drivers installed just fine but sadly warzone still stutters despite high fps so we probably need more driver love.