Steam Deck Verified Games is a LIE

[jautja]

As an example, the game No Rest for the Wicked causes the device to freeze completely, requiring a hard reboot.
Green check mark.
Why would you lie? What if it causes the device to malfunction? Does anyone even check these matches or can the developer himself say anything.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The game was updated multiple times after its verification which may have resulted in issue after compatibility was verified by Valve.

[🌎Earth]

You're right, why would they lie? Because they aren't lying, updates come and things happen.

Now the accuracy of the ratings, while mostly accurate, are another story.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Devs need to request resubmission and Valve needs to stop verifying EA titles.

[Haruspex]

When you launch a "verified" title for the first time, it will prompt you to answer if the game seems to function as it's "verified" rating seems to suggest. If it does not, simply select "no", and it will prompt Valve to re-evaluate that game's rating. They might change it, or they might look at doing a fix to bring it back up to speed again.

[TheKrapfcat]

if you really wanna be sure that something works or doesn't just check protondb.com
always double check cause you have something like Dirt Rally 2.0 as unsupported but on protondb is "platinum" and all the reports states that "just works" and can confirm

[IrisNebula]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Devs need to request resubmission and Valve needs to stop verifying EA titles.

They really need to deny "Deck Verified" to all games that have 3rd party launchers on Steam games, until they remove them. It actually is a problem on the Deck, it's not just "I hate it", which I do anyway.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by IrisNebula:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Devs need to request resubmission and Valve needs to stop verifying EA titles.

They really need to deny "Deck Verified" to all games that have 3rd party launchers on Steam games, until they remove them. It actually is a problem on the Deck, it's not just "I hate it", which I do anyway.

No, they don't as you can play those games on the Deck. Just this year, I've played a game with Uplay on my Deck. Even on train (so no WLAN around). Denying the verified status to a game which actually works really doesn't come out right.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

EA in this sense meant Early Access, as the topic was about one.

[IrisNebula]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

EA in this sense meant Early Access, as the topic was about one.

Oh, sorry, didn't catch that. You might be right with this yeah, since major changes are meant to happen for these titles, and so breaking things can be expected...

Originally posted by ReBoot:

No, they don't as you can play those games on the Deck. Just this year, I've played a game with Uplay on my Deck.

No, I insist. I've played some on my Deck as well, but they cause problems even if they work. I was playing NFS Heat on it. Then it suddenly stopped working one day because the launcher made random changes. Then it worked again. Then a launch randomly failed because the EA launcher decided to throw a very logical error (%gameName% is already running) while the game was of course not running, it didn't even know what I was trying to play, that string name appeared as you see it). And so on, and so forth.

So I'm not saying they should be "Unsupported". They kinda work, but they mess up your experience and that's what the orange "Playable" tag is for. It works, but it's not guaranteed to be hassle free.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by IrisNebula:

No, I insist. I've played some on my Deck as well, but they cause problems even if they work. I was playing NFS Heat on it. Then it suddenly stopped working one day because the launcher made random changes. Then it worked again. Then a launch randomly failed because the EA launcher decided to throw a very logical error (%gameName% is already running) while the game was of course not running, it didn't even know what I was trying to play, that string name appeared as you see it). And so on, and so forth.

So I'm not saying they should be "Unsupported". They kinda work, but they mess up your experience and that's what the orange "Playable" tag is for. It works, but it's not guaranteed to be hassle free.

You're starting off with Origin, generalizing to all of them. Origin is a ♥♥♥♥♥ and a half, I very much agree on that. Still, generalizing to all of them is wrong.

[flying_night_slasher]

Same with God of War freezing it so I had to use cryo utilities and keep an eye on VRAM usage

[IrisNebula]

Kalypso Launcher is also absolute ♥♥♥♥, it's not just Origin (which isn't Origin anymore). The fact that Uplay (Ubisoft Connect?) happens to work ok—so far—doesn't make it ok to bundle extra weight to games when you put them on Steam, they don't need anything else.

For example, I have my AC games on the Ubisoft launcher and I'm happy with it. But if I get something on Steam, I want it on Steam, I don't want it to bring its friends along for the ride, especially not on my portable with restricted resources and battery that I may want to play on for a limited time and have to watch one stupid app open after another until I eventually get to my game with less RAM available too.

I find it a bad tactic because it's completely needless and only creates friction. They cause enough trouble for "Playable". Heck, games get demoted to that even if they work GREAT just and only because you have to press Steam+X once in the whole game to type your save name the first time, because they don't automatically open the keyborad.

Of course, you may not agree and that's fine. You might change your opinion the day that the game you were playing at the time stops working for 2 weeks out of the blue when it was verified and is technically still compatible but can't open because someone pooped wrong that day.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by IrisNebula:

Kalypso Launcher is also absolute ♥♥♥♥, it's not just Origin (which isn't Origin anymore). The fact that Uplay (Ubisoft Connect?) happens to work ok—so far—doesn't make it ok to bundle extra weight to games when you put them on Steam, they don't need anything else.

For example, I have my AC games on the Ubisoft launcher and I'm happy with it. But if I get something on Steam, I want it on Steam, I don't want it to bring its friends along for the ride, especially not on my portable with restricted resources and battery that I may want to play on for a limited time and have to watch one stupid app open after another until I eventually get to my game with less RAM available too.

I find it a bad tactic because it's completely needless and only creates friction. They cause enough trouble for "Playable". Heck, games get demoted to that even if they work GREAT just and only because you have to press Steam+X once in the whole game to type your save name the first time, because they don't automatically open the keyborad.

Of course, you may not agree and that's fine. You might change your opinion the day that the game you were playing at the time stops working for 2 weeks out of the blue when it was verified and is technically still compatible but can't open because someone pooped wrong that day.

The thing is, you're arguing on principle basis. And in principle, you're right. It's just that the principle holds up best when you believe in in it and doesn't if you don't.

[ingramli]

The problem with "verified" with Steam Deck is, IMO, a conflict of interest of Valve which issue the "verified" status.

On Valve' perspective, they want more games with the "verified" badge which means they have a larger library making Steam Deck look more appealing, but prioritizing quantity over quality (many games classified as "verified" are actually only tested for a gameplay of an hour of so, there are plenty of reports which games run into issues in the later part) hurts the credibility of the rating.

Also, many demanding titles (such as Baldur's Gate 3, Hogwarts Legacy) are classified as "verified". Yes those games do run on the deck, but serious lag and low/inconsistent FPS occur, the classification obviously didnt take enjoyability for sufficient consideration (with all the tweaks, lower than native internal resolution by FSR and so on, the game may run 20-ish FPS on average? But for many, including myself, dont consider it to be playable)....

Well, it is what it is, there isn't much an end-user could do to change the situation. For now I would only take a grain of salt with the "verified" badge, and do the research myself on google/youtube/reddit before making a purchase for the deck.

[Brutalness]

The game meats the requirements but it's an early access game and will be full of bug as it gets developed and bugs ironed out