Useless to me

[Jorduin]

None of the games I play have the slightest bit of configuration done and are not supported - setup and configuration is required to do ANY simple task. Absolutely NOT a plug and play device with the number of caveats, exceptions and teeny tiny number of supported games *that I'm interested in (this seems to have triggered some folk.) Least intuitive thing I've ever touched.

Edit: while this is a rant- I very specifically took the time to point out this is MY experience, for ME- ,"Useless to ME" not, "Useless"

Ideally this would serve as a word of warning to anyone who like me did not do due diligence in research ahead of time. Unless you're SURE you can achieve what you want- keep researching.

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by Jorduin:

Originally posted by Jorduin:

Strictly complain- I gave away the deck. I have other options lol

The person I gave it to decided they didn't want it and to sell it too lmfao

Not really uncommon. Happened to me as well. Just take a look how flooded the used market is with steam decks. Good for buyers - I got a good deal for the Oled

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Not really uncommon. Happened to me as well. Just take a look how flooded the used market is with steam decks. Good for buyers - I got a good deal for the Oled :lunar2019piginablanket:

Not really indicative of much there. Other consoles are also on the used market in high numbers.

On Ebay:
Playstation 5 console - 13,000+ current listings, 15,000+ sold/completed
Xbox Series X console - 4,200+ current listings, 5,400+ sold/completed
Nintendo Switch console - 9,700+ current listings, 16,000+ sold/completed
Steam Deck - 1,100+ current listings, 4,200+ sold/completed

So if selling used is an indication that people don't want it and are deciding to get rid of it, this might suggest that more people are keeping their Steam Decks than not, compared to other systems.

[Drak3]

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Originally posted by ?legit:

Not really uncommon. Happened to me as well. Just take a look how flooded the used market is with steam decks. Good for buyers - I got a good deal for the Oled :lunar2019piginablanket:

Not really indicative of much there. Other consoles are also on the used market in high numbers.

On Ebay:
Playstation 5 console - 13,000+ current listings, 15,000+ sold/completed
Xbox Series X console - 4,200+ current listings, 5,400+ sold/completed
Nintendo Switch console - 9,700+ current listings, 16,000+ sold/completed
Steam Deck - 1,100+ current listings, 4,200+ sold/completed

So if selling used is an indication that people don't want it and are deciding to get rid of it, this might suggest that more people are keeping their Steam Decks than not, compared to other systems.

Bearing in mind, the Deck isn’t available in many places, so tons of decks are being scalped to this day.

[Jorduin]

I enjoy how quickly this became a more productive discussion than it began!

[Jorduin]

Hopefully other idiots like me will read this transcript and temper their expectations with the lists and advice many of you have provided- still waiting for that cookie though

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Originally posted by ?legit:

Not really uncommon. Happened to me as well. Just take a look how flooded the used market is with steam decks. Good for buyers - I got a good deal for the Oled

Not really indicative of much there. Other consoles are also on the used market in high numbers.

On Ebay:
Playstation 5 console - 13,000+ current listings, 15,000+ sold/completed
Xbox Series X console - 4,200+ current listings, 5,400+ sold/completed
Nintendo Switch console - 9,700+ current listings, 16,000+ sold/completed
Steam Deck - 1,100+ current listings, 4,200+ sold/completed

So if selling used is an indication that people don't want it and are deciding to get rid of it, this might suggest that more people are keeping their Steam Decks than not, compared to other systems.

Playstation 5 - 13k Ebay listings? What ? I see 4,600+ under the "used" filter, and most of them aren't even PS5: The first ten listings are literally a PS2 or PS Vita lol.

More importantly you forgot to take the PRICE into consideration what these used devices get sold at. The steam deck has a significant price decline, unlike the other devices, PLaystation, nintendo switch, apple, these devices have all a very stable price.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Not really indicative of much there. Other consoles are also on the used market in high numbers.

On Ebay:
Playstation 5 console - 13,000+ current listings, 15,000+ sold/completed
Xbox Series X console - 4,200+ current listings, 5,400+ sold/completed
Nintendo Switch console - 9,700+ current listings, 16,000+ sold/completed
Steam Deck - 1,100+ current listings, 4,200+ sold/completed

So if selling used is an indication that people don't want it and are deciding to get rid of it, this might suggest that more people are keeping their Steam Decks than not, compared to other systems.

Playstation 5 - 13k Ebay listings? What ? I see 4,600+ under the "used" filter, and most of them aren't even PS5: The first ten listings are literally a PS2 or PS Vita lol.

More importantly you forgot to take the PRICE into consideration what these used devices get sold at. The steam deck has a significant price decline, unlike the other devices, PLaystation, nintendo switch, apple, these devices have all a very stable price.

You mean they were sold high when they were hard to get but leveled out once production became stable?

[TheKrapfcat]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Not really indicative of much there. Other consoles are also on the used market in high numbers.

On Ebay:
Playstation 5 console - 13,000+ current listings, 15,000+ sold/completed
Xbox Series X console - 4,200+ current listings, 5,400+ sold/completed
Nintendo Switch console - 9,700+ current listings, 16,000+ sold/completed
Steam Deck - 1,100+ current listings, 4,200+ sold/completed

So if selling used is an indication that people don't want it and are deciding to get rid of it, this might suggest that more people are keeping their Steam Decks than not, compared to other systems.

Playstation 5 - 13k Ebay listings? What ? I see 4,600+ under the "used" filter, and most of them aren't even PS5: The first ten listings are literally a PS2 or PS Vita lol.

More importantly you forgot to take the PRICE into consideration what these used devices get sold at. The steam deck has a significant price decline, unlike the other devices, PLaystation, nintendo switch, apple, these devices have all a very stable price.

looking at the used market is useless to figure out anything, the Deck is not sold worldwide and the only way you are going to get it if you don't live where the Deck is sold is to literally look for "Scalped" units outside Steam.

Also if I can add something actually relevant to this discussion, if you are thinking about getting a Deck you either do proper research or lower your expectations, I got mine very early and was okay even if I had to use it as a cheap desktop docked and running Windows and was suprised that Linux improved a lot and just 1 game I cared wasn't running (Tarkov) and now I only use the deck to play anygame and have close to 3k hours.
just don't get the Deck and expect something easy if you plan to use only Multiplayer games or Modded games, but If you treat it as a console and just run known "Working" games you find on protondb.com you will get a good experience OOB and you won't even need to go to desktop mode once

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by TheKrapfcat:

Originally posted by ?legit:

Playstation 5 - 13k Ebay listings? What ? I see 4,600+ under the "used" filter, and most of them aren't even PS5: The first ten listings are literally a PS2 or PS Vita lol.

More importantly you forgot to take the PRICE into consideration what these used devices get sold at. The steam deck has a significant price decline, unlike the other devices, PLaystation, nintendo switch, apple, these devices have all a very stable price.

looking at the used market is useless to figure out anything, the Deck is not sold worldwide and the only way you are going to get it if you don't live where the Deck is sold is to literally look for "Scalped" units outside Steam.

Also if I can add something actually relevant to this discussion, if you are thinking about getting a Deck you either do proper research or lower your expectations, I got mine very early and was okay even if I had to use it as a cheap desktop docked and running Windows and was suprised that Linux improved a lot and just 1 game I cared wasn't running (Tarkov) and now I only use the deck to play anygame and have close to 3k hours.
just don't get the Deck and expect something easy if you plan to use only Multiplayer games or Modded games, but If you treat it as a console and just run known "Working" games you find on protondb.com you will get a good experience OOB and you won't even need to go to desktop mode once

Looking at the used market can be a significant indicator. Again, the device is officially sold here and yet the used market is flooded with cheap decks. What does this say about the device?

[Tomkatt]

Posts like this are weird. I mean, do people just buy the Deck while doing zero research about its capabilities? Issues with online service games with anti-cheat have been known for years, if that's the issue. Why would you even buy it without first checking if the games you want to play work?

My own experience has been the opposite. Literally every game I've tried to play on it has worked flawlessly, excepting two, and one of which had the same issue.

Specifically, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory needs a DLL and ini fix for controller triggers to work (this is also an issue in Windows), and Mechwarrior 5 Mercs needs a VC runtime package that isn't automatically pulled, has to be manually installed with Wine or Protontricks.

Other than those two, only one of which was sort of a Linux issue, everything, literally *everything* has worked perfectly for me out of a ridiculous number of installed games, and emulation of retro consoles via Emudeck has also been without issue.

[David Kay]

Steam deck experience can be an absolute horror sometimes. I tried making it run non steam games or install emulators - it was a miserable and fruitless endeavor. Now I just stick to native steam games and only the ones that are playable with controllers - so metroidvanias, platformers, twin stick shooters, survival horrors, racing agmes, etc. I do not touch anything that requires a third party launcher or desktop mode, I do not touch any first person shooters, strategy games, RPGs, etc. or anything that requires touchpads. Thanks to this I usually have a painless console like experience but I have to ignore like 50% of the device's capabilities and mostly play indie games. Any games from outside steam - GOG Itch, etc, any FPS games or just ones that require better specs I just play on desktop.

[Mahjik]

Originally posted by David Kay:

Steam deck experience can be an absolute horror sometimes. I tried making it run non steam games or install emulators - it was a miserable and fruitless endeavor. Now I just stick to native steam games and only the ones that are playable with controllers - so metroidvanias, platformers, twin stick shooters, survival horrors, racing agmes, etc. I do not touch anything that requires a third party launcher or desktop mode, I do not touch any first person shooters, strategy games, RPGs, etc. or anything that requires touchpads. Thanks to this I usually have a painless console like experience but I have to ignore like 50% of the device's capabilities and mostly play indie games. Any games from outside steam - GOG Itch, etc, any FPS games or just ones that require better specs I just play on desktop.

From my perspective, you are eliminating many games that do work well on the Deck. I played several hours of Two Point Hospital using the touch-pad and had a blast. I also play Dorfromatik, Islanders, Train Valley, Summer House and others from time to time.... Some of those default to gamepad controls but I actually prefer the touch-pad controls for those on the Deck.

I do agree that some of the FPS titles can be an issue if you've only played those in the past via keyboard/mouse. I will say you can tweak the Deck controls so much that you can make those playable as long as they are non-PvP FPS games (i.e. slow down the response curve on the right slick for look/aim).

[TheKrapfcat]

FPS games on Joystick are bad IMO, if you dont get aim assist or get extremely good with sticks you will have a bad time, while I embraced Flick sticks and Gyro and with a bit of practice I feel that I am at the same level of my M&K despite the huge experience difference,
I played a bunch of Apex, a lot of Boomer-shooters that are usually tough as nails with Gyro as mouse with no Aim assist and could pull stuff I would never have though was possible in the early days of using the Deck

the biggest upside is how you can get the same sensitivity in any game since it's linked to flick sticks and you just have to calibrate it to get it to do a 360 while the most problematic thing to do is something like keeping angles on Counter strike, if you pull the triggers too hard or fast you will bumb the aim a bit, probably making you lose the engagement