Cryoutilities 2.0 experiences?

[Roy]

I found out about this tool yesterday.
I installed it and set it up as recommended, didn't have much time to test but i noticed a MASSIVE increase in performance with big battles on M&B Bannerlord.
(Stresstested it with max amount of troops on screen and it was somehow as stable as captain PvP in smaller numbers was before).

I did some googling to see if people did some similar testing and i noticed people on Reddit were not much of a fan.
They said it barely makes a difference, especially after steam OS 3.5, is the latter true?

I'm going to test more games when i have time, i'm just curious if this will have more of a negative impact than a positive one in most titles?

[Zef]

The only game i know of that has issues with cryoutilities is RDR2.

Everything else should get a nice performance boost.

Haven't had any issues with cryoutilities to be honest, i've been running it for over a year now through several steam OS updates just fine.

[Roy]

Escrito originalmente por Zef:

The only game i know of that has issues with cryoutilities is RDR2.

Everything else should get a nice performance boost.

Haven't had any issues with cryoutilities to be honest, i've been running it for over a year now through several steam OS updates just fine.

That's good to know.
I saw some youtuber "criticising" it with multiple graphs of games that went down in performance, most notably Halo Infinite which would be unplayable according to his video, have you played that game by any chance?

He seemed a bit biased towards cryoutilities for some reason so i'll take it with a pinch of salt, i'll have to test it myself anyway.
Either way it's good to know you've been running it for long without issues as i intend to do the exact same.

[invision2212]

I’ve been using it for probably a year without any issues

[Hiro]

I did not use the tool, did the changes manually.

It should improve performance in some games and will have no effect in others.
But I don't think it will cause problems, use if it makes you happy :)

[Punkovich]

Escrito originalmente por Zef:

The only game i know of that has issues with cryoutilities is RDR2.

RDR2 has issues with changing the VRAM allocation. Which is not something Cryoutilities does, you have to change it yourself in the BIOS. All cryo will do is tell you what it is currently set to.

[Roy]

I just tried Halo Infinite as it was unplayable according to that youtuber, but it ran perfectly fine.
Not sure if it better than before cryo but it was definitey stable.

I also played a few more matches of Bannerlord captain pvp and i'm still blown away by how stable it gets now.
Before i had about 40~50fps with dips to 25~30, but more importantly the dips were unstable and even at 30fps it was VERY hindering to have it spike constantly.
Now i get 50~60fps out of combat, dropping to 30 at peaks of combat but it stays completely stable now, not spiking at all and remaining smooth enough to let me actually stand a chance in pvp during these battles.

I'm starting to think most critics of cryoutilities are mostly jealous they didn't make a tool this well themselves.
It seems like the pro's heavily outweigh the con's imo, i might not magically reach constant 60fps now but having it be stable at demanding moments/games is wayyy better to play with.

Thx for the inputs lads!

[Roy]

I just retried Helldivers 2, a game i uninstalled as it ran too poorly to enjoy before.
I loaded up difficulty 7 with randoms and it was somehow stable!
I saw it drop to 25fps, maybe slightly lower at the peak of lasers and explosions going on, but this too was stable and not spiking.
Even with these low framerates i could reliably aim and play.

This is an absolute gamechanger imo.

Sorry for replying to my own topic twice, i do not intend to bump this, i'm just very enthousastic about the results as i somewhat expected to find a drawback by now. I'll stop posting about games i tried now as these were my 2 biggest "i wonder" titles and they've both massively improved.

[Haruspex]

I use it. I haven't noticed a performance difference, but I also don't play mega-demanding games on my Deck.

Cryoutilities asks you to increase the dedicated GPU memory from the default of 1 GB up to 4 GB. This can improve performance in some games that don't properly auto-allocate memory and could make use of the extra VRAM. In a few it can actually hinder performance, like in Red Dead Redemption 2. I just split the difference and set it to 2GB.

The biggest thing for me is that Cryoutilities decreases the "swappiness" of your SSD, which is supposed to prolong it's life. Don't know if this is true or not, but it comes recommended and it's not hurting anything, so...

[Roy]

Escrito originalmente por Haruspex:

I use it. I haven't noticed a performance difference, but I also don't play mega-demanding games on my Deck.

Cryoutilities asks you to increase the dedicated GPU memory from the default of 1 GB up to 4 GB. This can improve performance in some games that don't properly auto-allocate memory and could make use of the extra VRAM. In a few it can actually hinder performance, like in Red Dead Redemption 2. I just split the difference and set it to 2GB.

The biggest thing for me is that Cryoutilities decreases the "swappiness" of your SSD, which is supposed to prolong it's life. Don't know if this is true or not, but it comes recommended and it's not hurting anything, so...

The strange thing for me is that Helldivers 2 seems a LOT more stable/playable.
Helldivers 2, afaik, tends to massively hoard the CPU, so i expected it to actually run worse since i allowed my GPU to take more VRAM, "limiting" my CPU.
The other tweaks like swap, swappiness and that priority list thing are somehow so effective that the game still runs significantly better, despite being heavy on the CPU.
Framerates in general are a bit higher, but especially the lowest ones are way more evened out letting you actually adjust to it.

I'm not sure if swappiness really does prolong the SSD when combined with actually using swap, but i'm hoping that IF it's actually bad for my SSD, i won't even run into problems until the time my Deck is already old tech anyway.

[[KAMI] RedWyvern]

While my light usage of my Deck I can't report any noticeable performance improvements.
But I can confirm that it has been stable over quite a number of preview releases for about the year I've used the tool on my Deck.
The changes also make sense to me, I made the same swappiness tweak when I daily-drove Ubuntu and now use Linux distro's which pre-configure similar tweaks.
This definitely does reduce SSD writes and helps with performance, as long as you don't choke the system, after which it's more sensible to restart something that isn't a server anyway.
The only weird thing about the script is how it asks for the sudo password in it's own dialogue, though I think this is to avoid having the authentication dialogue pop up again after a few minutes.

[Mahjik]

The changes CryoUtils does shouldn't provide much of a benefit unless the games being plays are hogging resources. R2D2 just has problems but other games that hog resources like Helldivers 2 and God of War will benefit from CryoUtils.

[DeZ]

I feel like CryoUtilities doesn't change anything.
I did changed VRam size, like it's mentioned in tutorial, but tested games befre installing utilities. That really helped (Days Gone added +10 fps, I guess. In average)/
But installing and turning on recommended options didn't change anything at all.

[ybg Moli]

Escrito originalmente por DeZ:

I feel like CryoUtilities doesn't change anything.
I did changed VRam size, like it's mentioned in tutorial, but tested games befre installing utilities. That really helped (Days Gone added +10 fps, I guess. In average)/
But installing and turning on recommended options didn't change anything at all.

it dosent do anything since steamos 3 or so

[DeZ]

Escrito originalmente por Moli:

Escrito originalmente por DeZ:

I feel like CryoUtilities doesn't change anything.
I did changed VRam size, like it's mentioned in tutorial, but tested games befre installing utilities. That really helped (Days Gone added +10 fps, I guess. In average)/
But installing and turning on recommended options didn't change anything at all.

it dosent do anything since steamos 3 or so

Lol, what a shame tp hear after you alrady installed them.

[bizarregenius]

Steam OS 3.6 uses ZRAM now, so CryoUtilities is largely ineffective now. However, PowerTools make a significant difference in performance in games. I can achieve ~10 frames in some games when I override the TDP to 30 watts instead of the default 15, which means the CPU and GPU are drawing more power. If you’re plugged in, as I usually am, it helps a lot.