Still No Hall Effect Sticks

[Preacher JLU]

I would never EVER buy this until they use the hall effect sticks, to pricey to get stick drift with the old analog sticks.

God bless

[Forks]

Escrito originalmente por Haruspex:

Stick drift was never a concern or even talked about until the Nintendo Switch, and the drifting problems that plague the Switch aren't a problem with other sticks.

However like any other moving part, they are subject to wear and tear over time, and the sticks on the Deck are very easy to replace. Unless you are particularly hard on your controls, you will most likely not have a problem until well after you're ready to upgrade to a newer device anyway.

Disagree.

It's been an issue since the Xbox 360 controllers and every other Xbox controller going forward. Ask folks with elite controllers and how many replacements they've gone through.

[skibidi drill]

Escrito originalmente por deaddoof:

Escrito originalmente por Preacher JLU:

I would never EVER buy this until they use the hall effect sticks, to pricey to get stick drift with the old analog sticks.

God bless

The sticks are one of the most replaceable components in the steam deck.

I do not believe it's the weakest part either. All buttons, sticks are consumables.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb7Bs98KmnY

I would avoid the LCD deck because the L1 and R1 buttons are connected to the daughter board. Valve has been rather crappy at not providing them at reasonable cost.

ok

[Haruspex]

Escrito originalmente por Forks:

Escrito originalmente por Haruspex:

Stick drift was never a concern or even talked about until the Nintendo Switch, and the drifting problems that plague the Switch aren't a problem with other sticks.

However like any other moving part, they are subject to wear and tear over time, and the sticks on the Deck are very easy to replace. Unless you are particularly hard on your controls, you will most likely not have a problem until well after you're ready to upgrade to a newer device anyway.

Disagree.

It's been an issue since the Xbox 360 controllers and every other Xbox controller going forward. Ask folks with elite controllers and how many replacements they've gone through.

Okay, that's fine, but I believe I addressed that five months ago when this thread was started.

Escrito originalmente por Haruspex:

Yes, but we used to just call that regular wear-and-tear. Stuff gets old and wears out as you use it, as expected. It wasn't until the Switch that the "stick drift" panic set it and everyone started losing their minds with anxiety that anything with a stick could potentially drift.

The old Nintendo 64 joysticks literally ground themselves into fine plastic powder with use, and nobody panicked about stick drift even then. The most controversial thing was that some people used their palm to rotate the stick in Mario Party and caused blisters. Nintendo even offered a free glove to remedy the "problem".

I'm not saying that stick drift isn't a thing. It just was never the panic that it is now largely thanks to the poor design of the Switch joycon.

[Alex Atkin UK]

I must be very tolerant, as I've used practically every mainstream controller and never noticed stick drift, not even on my launch day Switch yet (though I haven't used it much in years). In fact, the only time I can remember having problems with the joystick was Dreamcast controllers not centering and they WERE hall effect.

These days the main problem I have are the triggers breaking on the Playstation controllers. Stick wise they seem to have the smallest dead zone though, I can't imagine needing a stick any more precise, they are leagues better than say Xbox controllers which have a huge dead zone. Though I'd probably say Xbox controllers are the least prone to problems in my experience. It was always the texture of the stick wearing down that caused issues on those, at least on Xbox 360 ones.

Valve said they didn't upgrade the Steam Deck OLED to hall effect due to reliability issues. I tend to believe them, I don't think they are the magic bullet people think they are. Its more that high-end after market replacements may be manufactured better, as they do not have economy of scale so they really don't want RMAs. Unlike mainstream controllers where there is likely a healthy profit margin so a few failing under warranty is not a big deal, and they can supplement the console cost by having you buy a new controller regularly.

[ReBoot]

Unless you're talking Switch JoyCons, stick drift is vastly overblown of an issue. I mean, yeah, it exist, sure, that mantra the OP's singing is pretty much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ though.

[S01itUde]

Escrito originalmente por ReBoot:

Unless you're talking Switch JoyCons, stick drift is vastly overblown of an issue. I mean, yeah, it exist, sure, that mantra the OP's singing is pretty much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ though.

Even with the joycons it's not even that bad. The design was prone to letting in, and consequently trapping, dirt/dust; but it's not like everyone is having all kinds of problems with drift.
If it really was as bad as everyone makes it out to be then the switch lite wouldnt sell and people wouldnt be raving about it.
All of this is really just media sites making a big deal and then all the headlines because of potential lawsuits and so everyone just parrots it, but in reality stickdrift is uncommon in joycons and many people's issues can/were be resolved by cleaning out the trapped dust.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Escrito originalmente por S01itUde:

Escrito originalmente por ReBoot:

Unless you're talking Switch JoyCons, stick drift is vastly overblown of an issue. I mean, yeah, it exist, sure, that mantra the OP's singing is pretty much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ though.

Even with the joycons it's not even that bad. The design was prone to letting in, and consequently trapping, dirt/dust; but it's not like everyone is having all kinds of problems with drift.
If it really was as bad as everyone makes it out to be then the switch lite wouldnt sell and people wouldnt be raving about it.
All of this is really just media sites making a big deal and then all the headlines because of potential lawsuits and so everyone just parrots it, but in reality stickdrift is uncommon in joycons and many people's issues can/were be resolved by cleaning out the trapped dust.

Nintendo literally admitted it was an issue and was doing fixes for free.

[invision2212]

I had drift in my decks analogs right side and replaced them with Hall effect sticks.
Every single one of my ps4 controllers had drift.

When taken apart, the disks inside become black from wear and cleaning them helps the issue but eventually they become unfixable and need to be replaced.

The decks sticks are the worst offenders and cannot be disassembled to clean the disk as the whole stick is soldered to the board, so you will have to replace it.