Steam Deck
SuperSpeed 4 DIC 2023 a las 19:40
Is the Steam Deck worth it?
I'm just wondering if I should buy it and would it be suitable for traveling? Is it pretty good on on TV and run the latest games. I see the OLED and costs as much as a console but does it have console quality in terms of graphics?
Publicado originalmente por NimrodX:
Ok, so the Steam Deck is basically a low-end gaming laptop that's been miniaturized to approximately the nintendo switch footprint, but isn't nearly as "slick" like a totally closed-off locked-down platform where one vendor controls all.

The main compatibility problem is not the performance characteristics, though those limitations can certainly make a game unplayable, but the fact that it has a tiny screen and no keyboard which most PC/Windows desktop/laptop games were not actually designed for.

So basically the #1 problem is that it runs a bunch of games that were designed with the assumption that they'd be played on nothing smaller than a 14" or so laptop monitor, usually using a keyboard and a mouse.

Contrast that with Nintendo Switch games that were all programmed with the assumption that they'd be played on a nintendo switch because that's all they can be played on.

So the main problems I run into, in order of frequency, are actually:
- text is too small
- controls too complex to be just mapped to xbox type controller buttons
- When the previous happens, use of mouse pointer and touch can be awkward/difficult (though it gets easier)
- game won't run at all, crashes due to compatibility issues with the windows "emulator" (like minecraft bedrock won't work at all since steamos doesn't have Microsoft xbox DRM on it and MS will work hard to make sure that stuff can't be used without Windows).

Developers need to target this sort of platform to really address all of those issues. When they do then everything is great.

So before getting a steam deck I would go through which games you want to be able to play and try to figure out how well you'll be able to play them. Same thing for any other "mini gaming laptopish thing" out there (there are quite a few these days actually).
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deaddoof 4 DIC 2023 a las 19:48 
Can you cross reference your games against protondb?

https://www.protondb.com/

Is it pretty good on on TV and run the latest games

Probably not. Render target is 800p. FSR upscaling might work but it isn't a placenta. PS5 and Xbox One X capabilities are quite high. Newest games are not a guarantee. You will need to cross reference one by one.
ingramli 4 DIC 2023 a las 19:51 
Publicado originalmente por SuperSpeed:
I'm just wondering if I should buy it and would it be suitable for traveling? Is it pretty good on on TV and run the latest games. I see the OLED and costs as much as a console but does it have console quality in terms of graphics?
> latest games
What latest games? If you mean demanding 3A titles like Alan Wake 2, it is not the best idea IMO, the chip is not powerful enough for these titles, and obviously it does not compare well to current gen stationery consoles like PS5 or XSX, after-all it is a 15W TDP portable handheld.... it is great for previous gen big titles or indie tho, it really depends on your use case and your expectations.

Edit: My recommendation to OP : As a portable handheld, neither Steam Deck, nor other portable handhelds, could be a full replacement of a console (you mentioned "costs as much as a console", so I am suspecting it is a choice between SD and consoles due to budget constraints), if you haven't got the consoles yet and want to play the console titles, you are most likely better off just get the console you want.
Última edición por ingramli; 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:47
RedBaronK™ 4 DIC 2023 a las 20:08 
I love mine, but I'd hate to recommend it for playing AAA latest titles.. It may not live up to your expectations.

For running 3-4 yr old AAA, yes, and anything else older. The real beauty of the deck is the controller layout flexibility, you can play variety of systems and consoles on it.

Just bear in mind, no matter the system mobile devices are just that.. Mobile. You are always going to sacrifice some performance for mobility even on ROG Ally or the legion go vs a desktop gaming pc.
Última edición por RedBaronK™; 4 DIC 2023 a las 20:10
Haruspex 4 DIC 2023 a las 20:17 
It's quite good, but it's still a handheld. You can't compare it directly to current consoles in terms of raw performance. The Xbox Series X is a dedicated plug-in device that can suck down up to 200 watts under load. The Steam Deck is a battery powered handheld that sips power with a 15 watt TDP. Some performance compromises need to be made.

Ask yourself what games you want to play on it, then do a reality check. Look on ProtonDB to see what kind of compatibility you can expect on the games you want to play. Look up gameplay footage on Youtube of the games you want to play running on the Deck. Does it still look good to you? Considering getting a Deck then.
gareeth 4 DIC 2023 a las 20:31 
Publicado originalmente por SuperSpeed:
I'm just wondering if I should buy it and would it be suitable for traveling? Is it pretty good on on TV and run the latest games. I see the OLED and costs as much as a console but does it have console quality in terms of graphics?

I have not tried it on a tv but as I have some visual issues so the OLED display actually makes it somehow a bit easier to see distinct details I would say that part is very worth it,

You have to come to that conclusion for yourself but I am very happy with mine. It is better than I expected although I do have to relearn how to play games I ever played with a controller with it,
TristanMike 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:03 
A few things to consider.

I'd honestly say you're getting somewhere in the neighborhood of a high end PS3/360. That being said, I have a nice chunk of Sony games and they look fantastic while playing on the Deck (I personally don't use the dock). If you find a game that the deck won't play, I doubt it's going to be because it can't handle it but rather simply a software incompatibility. If the idea of 720p doesn't make you yak when playing on a larger TV, you should be fine. If you're looking for 1080p, go with the console or PC but then these aren't all that suited for portability.

On the topic of TV's, if you plan on connecting it to hotel TV's or similar, you're gonna need a dock (sold separately), there are some nice 3rd party ones. But you will want it...also a controller (maybe mouse/keyboard if you want to lug those around).

What type of games do you play most ? You should check out the "Great on Steam Deck" store section or your library for games that are known to run well. Take note however, working offline is not a requirement for verified games. That means there are a tiny selection of games that won't play if you don't have an internet connection. Fortunately they are generally few and far between but there's no list as far as I know of and no indication on the store page. You'd have to check out the discussions, sadly.

For travelling, you are going to want to go for the OLED model, not least for the battery bump. And as for graphics, I mean, I think that anyone who sees them for the first time is rather surprised at how great it looks considering it's a handheld. Sometimes you may need to adjust them yourself because the auto-detect doesn't work well, but shouldn't be too much of a bother. Plus there are sites that can tell you what users found to be the best settings for any particular game.
@R+5 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:20 
Publicado originalmente por SuperSpeed:
I'm just wondering if I should buy it and would it be suitable for traveling? Is it pretty good on on TV and run the latest games. I see the OLED and costs as much as a console but does it have console quality in terms of graphics?

depends in which games you intend to play, how frequently you are gong to travel, how much you value portability, and how much you value or not exclusive games locked to a specific console.

the low resolution shouldnt be noticeable in most screens:
only in the best ones with the highest resolutions (even when some of those have tools to improve image quality, so it also depends in which screen).

Maybe the steam deck cannot be easily upgraded as a pc, or the coming modular laptops, but is likely going to remain useful for a long time. even if you stop using it as a console, you could later use it as a mini server or something else.

i currently would prefer to own a deck than a typical console like ps5, but if i had to choose between two systems, I would prefer to own a modular laptop than a steam deck, because i would be able to upgrade it later for less than a new system.
Última edición por @R+5; 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:25
D. Flame 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:21 
No, it is not the same quality as a console of the same price. You're literally just paying to be able to play some games (not all games) on the go, laying in bed, etc.
Mega Ultra Chicken 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:23 
It's good but I'm not sure if I would recommend it over the ROG Ally or a gaming laptop. You can connect the XG Mobile to the ROG Ally and get gaming laptop performance. The issue with ROG Ally is the poor battery life, windows, and SD cards burning up. But the Z1 Extreme Ally is $600 on sale now vs $550 for SD OLED right now.
Última edición por Mega Ultra Chicken; 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:25
@R+5 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:30 
Publicado originalmente por BlackDragon875:
It's good but I'm not sure if I would recommend it over the ROG Ally or a gaming laptop. You can connect the XG Mobile to the ROG Ally and get gaming laptop performance. The issue with ROG Ally is the poor battery life, windows, and SD cards burning up. But the Z1 Extreme Ally is $600 vs $550 for SD OLED right now.

If you research a bit more, i think your opinion would change a bit:
the rog ally may have more recent hardware, but the performance in actual use is worse or close to the steam deck oled. it also runs hotter and has a more limited battery, which in turn also makes it less useful as a "portable console". i recently watched a video of a guy that modded a rog adding a better battery and thermal hacks, but that increased a lot the price and also weight.

a gaming laptop is a different theme, because laptops arent meant to be used "on the go", and to enjoy some games you may need to also use an external controller, rather than keyboard + mouse combo (which also demand more physical space). their usual advantage is to have the option to upgrade ram and disk, but imo, if possible get a modular gaming laptop from "framework" (to be able to later upgrade gpu, or other components).

if you need a laptop for work or school, maybe you will need to skip the deck, even if for most basic tasks it can also work as any other pc. But maybe a small portable keyboard could be enough to use the deck for common stuff, if the "authorities" or similar roles of the school dont oppose.
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Mega Ultra Chicken 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:37 
Publicado originalmente por @R+5:
Publicado originalmente por BlackDragon875:
It's good but I'm not sure if I would recommend it over the ROG Ally or a gaming laptop. You can connect the XG Mobile to the ROG Ally and get gaming laptop performance. The issue with ROG Ally is the poor battery life, windows, and SD cards burning up. But the Z1 Extreme Ally is $600 vs $550 for SD OLED right now.

If you research a bit more, i think your opinion would change a bit:
the rog ally may have more recent hardware, but the performance in actual use is worse or close to the steam deck oled. it also runs hotter and has a more limited battery, which in turn also makes it less useful as a "portable console".

a gaming laptop is a different theme, because laptops arent meant to be used "on the go", and to enjoy some games you may need to also use an external controller, rather than keyboard + mouse combo (which also demand more physical space).
Yeah, but the XG mobile makes ROG Ally better if you're playing it on a TV. I would say Steam Deck OLED is perfect if you're playing handheld all the time. But the XG mobile is expensive.
D. Flame 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:44 
Publicado originalmente por BlackDragon875:
Publicado originalmente por @R+5:

If you research a bit more, i think your opinion would change a bit:
the rog ally may have more recent hardware, but the performance in actual use is worse or close to the steam deck oled. it also runs hotter and has a more limited battery, which in turn also makes it less useful as a "portable console".

a gaming laptop is a different theme, because laptops arent meant to be used "on the go", and to enjoy some games you may need to also use an external controller, rather than keyboard + mouse combo (which also demand more physical space).
Yeah, but the XG mobile makes ROG Ally better if you're playing it on a TV. I would say Steam Deck OLED is perfect if you're playing handheld all the time. But the XG mobile is expensive.
If you are only playing it on a TV, then you are just better off buying a console or PC instead anyway.

Not to mention that the XG Mobile thing costs as much as a Gaming PC on its own, before you even buy the Ally, and it is as big as a small console to boot.
Última edición por D. Flame; 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:47
Mega Ultra Chicken 4 DIC 2023 a las 21:47 
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Publicado originalmente por BlackDragon875:
Yeah, but the XG mobile makes ROG Ally better if you're playing it on a TV. I would say Steam Deck OLED is perfect if you're playing handheld all the time. But the XG mobile is expensive.
If you are only playing it on a TV, then you are just better off buying a console or PC instead anyway.
It really depends on what OP wants to play
Shibby 4 DIC 2023 a las 22:24 
If you plan on playing on TV more than portable then the Ally is the go to for that as it will push the APU up to 30W which helps a lot with FPS and higher resolutions of the TV. The Ally is no slouch and Asus has been pushing a bunch of updates and the newer revisions supposedly fixed the SD card issue.
Kage Goomba 4 DIC 2023 a las 22:52 
Yep.

Saved me 2000 USD+ in terms of investing in a high end portable gaming unit.

Is it perfect? nope.

But I don't regret my purchase - keep your expectations in check however.
People who buy the Steamdeck get these weird notions of what it should do as opposed to what it can do.

Frankly it can only get better as time passes.
Última edición por Kage Goomba; 4 DIC 2023 a las 22:53
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