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I have three computers that I use on a daily basis though. My Steam Deck of course has it's place as the best way to play PC games on a handheld. My laptop is built for productivity and not gaming, and it's a nice, portable way for me to get work done on the go that the Deck just doesn't do as well. My desktop of course is where I turn everything up to ultra with no compromises and enjoy the most immersive experience PC gaming has to offer, at the cost of portability of course.
Did I say it would be a 3080 in 10 years? No. I said in 10 years they would be better and to let me know when these handhelds can actually have something like that inside them.
It's not laughably false at all. The Switch is limited by its hardware and system. It's basically only good for Nintendo games. Just how the SteamOS only plays a handful of selected games. As well as limiting software and hardware compared to other products on the market. The difference is the deck can hit close to 60 fps while the Switch is basically locked at 30 fps.
That's the only thing the Deck has going for it, is battery life at lower wattage. So what? I rather run at a higher wattage than a lower one. The deck can't push the frames the other's can. According to benchmarks, the Legion Go is the only one that struggles a little at a lower wattage. The Ally does just fine. Legion Go has way more features than the Deck by far. I know it's hard to hear about your favourite company and its mediocre product.
My knowledge and perception isn't off. Benchmarks prove this. The deck sucks, unless it comes to a lower wattage usage. But so what? Even then, it barely pushes to 60 fps and it still uses a crap operating system that lacks compatibility and functionality. A system that can't even run your entire library while you wait for Valve to actually get off their butts and make certain games verified. Linux is a terrible operating system. Period.
It goes like this:
Switch.
Deck.
ROG Ally.
Legion Go.
Confidently incorrect is the worst kind of incorrect.
Yes it is.
You are wrong. You miss the point repeatedly and you don't know what you are talking about.
Power isn't everything in fact, power has mever been the decisive factor on how good or widely adopted a device is. The deck does things that the Lenovo or Asus don't. And put them all at 15w and the deck has the same performance. In some games a little bit better, in others a little bit worse. Your tier list makes no sense even when talking performance except if you consider the legion go and the ally to be plugged in all the time.
Linux, is the best operating system. If performance is what matters to you Linux is better than Windows. In a recent test windows came out worse than 3 Linux distros performance wise.
There are a handful of games that do not run on the deck. Some due to anticheat, others due to poor optimization. There are over 14,000 games that run on the deck as I am writting and that is just the ones people test and play. Also, the verification process is not what you think it is. Firstly, developers do the leg work to get a game verified and secondly, even if a game is not verified it still runs. I can still play Horizon Forbidden West at 30 fps on my deck despite being unsupported.
Also your last list is bogus. I put the switch above the Ally or the Go. At least with a Switch OLED I can play ToTK for 5h straight if I want to. Good luck pulling that off on an Ally or a Legion Go.
The "incredibly great optimized steam deck 15W hardware" comes with a high price. You are ALWAYS playing with a low resolution, although there are thousands of games which would even run on the weak steam deck hardware in FHD+ or maybe even higher. But you're always bottlenecked with that terribly low res. Point and click games, platformers, emulation all look great in 2k, or even just FHD.
Have fun counting pixels on the steam deck!
No, it's hard to read something so laughably yet confidently wrong that once again the question arises whether I'm just falling for an elaborate trolling attempt. All of this is just pure nonsense
Also for the record, I own both a Legion Go and Steam Deck. I like all open platforms and I have no horse in this race at all but the reality of the situation is that the Steam Deck is simply much better as a handheld, doing handheld things, which includes not being plugged into an outlet for long periods of time
And sure the screen is only 800p but the pixel density is bigger than a 24 inch 1440p display and about 100 pixels shy of a retina display. So where exactly are you counting pixels? Unless you have a 24 inch 4k display all pixels are going to be bigger. In fact, pixels in those games you mentioned will be bigger on a 2k display than on the SD screen. So what are you on about?
Yeah at 35W or turbo LOL.
Try at 15W and see the difference.
Sure the performance is better if you turbo the rog but you'll get an horrible battery life,which completely kill the purpose of being an handheld.
We coming back to this old conversation. Flawed is the default for handheld. If your device isn't flawed, then you screwed up because you made engineering compromised that reduces the total market share.
Designing a device that always runs at 15 watts means you only need circuits to maintain 15 watts. Game developers will not pull this giant disclaimer where the game only works well when docked.....
What is you idea of good enough. You keep talk around the issue where you do not have a good enough metric. You keep throwing up hypothetical without caring without realizing that nobody fits your idea.
Pretty much. I might buy an ally to replace my miniPC as it will be able to game a bit more and it comes out cheaper than 7840U devices when on sale. So yeah, I will get an ally to have it docked at all times and a steam deck on the go. Unless I procrastinate like usual and end up waiting for the SD2 which I will definitely buy.
Yup, but here’s the thing. I have the option to go up to 32w while you on the other hand will be stuck at 15w. Also the games perform better at 15w on the legion go vs the steam deck. I’ve already tested this on many games.
Then I can kick back on my bed, plug in my RX 7600xt and play either 144hz gaming at 800p or 60hz at 1440p which you can’t do either of those on the deck.