Do you think Microsoft and Sony are going to make Steam Deck competitors?

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

I have a feeling Sony might jump back into the handheld market. It would be even cooler if Microsoft made one, so you could play 4 generations of digital Xbox games on a handheld.

[ReBoot]

Even if they were to create mobile consoles, those wouldn't be Deck competitors.

That said, I very much doubt. The Deck is a disruptor allright, but a disruptor in the mobile PC gaming space, and both XBox and PS aren't PCs, they don't compete with PCs. Microsoft, by the way, embraced the Deck as a mobile streaming device, they've published a first-party tutorial on how to get XCloud on your Deck.

Speaking of consoles not being PC competitors, I am absolutely not amazed by 4 generation of games on one device. I can play everything from retro classics to the newest stuff (all the generations there are) on one device either way, without waiting for Microsoft/Sony to do something.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Originalmente postado por ReBoot:

Even if they were to create mobile consoles, those wouldn't be Deck competitors.

That said, I very much doubt. The Deck is a disruptor allright, but a disruptor in the mobile PC gaming space, and both XBox and PS aren't PCs, they don't compete with PCs. Microsoft, by the way, embraced the Deck as a mobile streaming device, they've published a first-party tutorial on how to get XCloud on your Deck.

Speaking of consoles not being PC competitors, I am absolutely not amazed by 4 generation of games on one device. I can play everything from retro classics to the newest stuff (so ~8 generations) on one device either way, without waiting for Microsoft/Sony to do something.

Yeah, probably not. If the new ASUS handheld does well other companies might think about doing it. I'm not really sure about Sony right now. Maybe The Last of Us PC port was made to be bad on purpose.

[ReBoot]

Originalmente postado por BlackDragon875:

Originalmente postado por ReBoot:

Even if they were to create mobile consoles, those wouldn't be Deck competitors.

That said, I very much doubt. The Deck is a disruptor allright, but a disruptor in the mobile PC gaming space, and both XBox and PS aren't PCs, they don't compete with PCs. Microsoft, by the way, embraced the Deck as a mobile streaming device, they've published a first-party tutorial on how to get XCloud on your Deck.

Speaking of consoles not being PC competitors, I am absolutely not amazed by 4 generation of games on one device. I can play everything from retro classics to the newest stuff (so ~8 generations) on one device either way, without waiting for Microsoft/Sony to do something.

Yeah, probably not. If the new ASUS handheld does well other companies might think about doing it. I'm not really sure about Sony right now. Maybe The Last of Us PC port was made to be bad on purpose.

Why are you so focused on Sony? Sure, they make PCs but so do dozens of other companies (case in point, ASUS). Who the damn cares if the next Deck-like mobile gaming PC will be announced by Sony or, let's say, Dell?

[Modern Retro Gamer (UK)]

Microsoft I feel are more likely to drop consoles and become a publisher like Sega did than enter either the handheld or VR gaming markets. Gamespass on everything (even PS if possible) is thier ultimate goal.

Sony. Possibly. Vita 2, wouldn't put it past them. However they seem more focused around PS5 and PSVR2. Hard to see what's in it for them.

Of course, this is Nintendos market. They've been killing it since Gameboy and the Deck isn't making a dent. Good to see them rediscovering what made the Wii so popular. And Switch VR makes alot of sense.

The Deck is a niche product. It's done very well but with no real marketing or retail pressence it'll never trouble Nintendo or Sony.

But that's not Valves game plan. SteamOS is. Though they seem to be dropping the ball getting it out their beyond the Deck. The Decks laid great foundations for them to capitalise on.

That said wouldn't be surprised if a standalone SteamOS VR headset is the next big thing from them.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Originalmente postado por Linux Retro Gamer:

Microsoft I feel are more likely to drop consoles and become a publisher like Sega did than enter either the handheld or VR gaming markets. Gamespass on everything (even PS if possible) is thier ultimate goal.

Sony. Possibly. Vita 2, wouldn't put it past them. However they seem more focused around PS5 and PSVR2. Hard to see what's in it for them.

Of course, this is Nintendos market. They've been killing it since Gameboy and the Deck isn't making a dent. Good to see them rediscovering what made the Wii so popular. And Switch VR makes alot of sense.

The Deck is a niche product. It's done very well but with no real marketing or retail pressence it'll never trouble Nintendo or Sony.

But that's not Valves game plan. SteamOS is. Though they seem to be dropping the ball getting it out their beyond the Deck. The Decks laid great foundations for them to capitalise on.

That said wouldn't be surprised if a standalone SteamOS VR headset is the next big thing from them.

Yeah, I would say it's a possibility from Sony. The Steam Deck is a great device, but it does come with some of the quirks associated with PC gaming. There's definitely a market for playing new games on a handheld.

[schM0ggi]

According to the recent ASUS Ally leak on reddit, if true, Sony is already making a new handheld device. But, according to another post, it seems it's more of "just" a streaming device (which would make sense when you keep sony's work on their own streaming service in mind).

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/12b7fjx/rog_ally_features_and_pricing/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/12c068b/jeff_grubb_mentions_a_cloudstreaming_handheld/

Either way, Valve definitely injected some life into the gaming handheld market.

[GoalieG]

After Sony abandoned the Vita rather than put any money or effort into expanding it, I would not expect Sony to get back into the handheld market. And, frankly, I wouldn't touch a Sony handheld product with a 10-foot pole. I am still bitter about them killing my beloved Vita!

[@R+5]

if sony makes a hanheld device, it will very likely be another portable console, which wont compete with any "hanheld pc": if they lock games with "exclusives", those are likely going to be emulated at some pont, because that is still currently the most direct approach to preserve them as media (unless some big company finally dares to sell roms for that purpose).

i dont think sony will try again luck with android, like they did with the xperia

[RSebire]

Valve are the only company to actually innovate in the gaming market in decades....

Everything else is just a clone of a clone.
A reskinned reskin.

Its sad to say it, but gaming peaked in the 90's, in both hardware and software. Hence no new genres in decades.

Just more poor clones of original titles and systems.

SteamOS really is a god send in a stagnant arena.

Sony, Microsoft and even Nintendo, are monotonous, laborious creeps.
They basically killed innovation, and thus the industry.
All of them, sing the same song.....
Over and over again.
What sad times.....

[FOXDUDE69]

Originalmente postado por RSebire:

Valve are the only company to actually innovate in the gaming market in decades....

Oh, Really?

Nintendo and Playstation have a long history of innovation in the gaming space and they don't seem to be slowing down.

Nintendo pioneered handheld gaming for the last 3 decades.
Nintendo created the world's first handheld/home console/tabletop hybrid.
Nintendo created HD Rumble.
Nintendo pioneered gyro aiming. First game with Native Gyro was on the 3DS, a 2011 console.

Playstation is improving immersion with adaptive triggers and haptic feedback.
Playstation created the first Handheld with an OLED touchscreen back in 2011.
Playstation is attempting to streamline VR and make it more affordable.

Lastly,

Microsoft pioneered game achievements. Spawning an entirely new gaming subculture.
Microsoft is pioneering the sub model with the game pass.

You think Valve is special because they took sometime off from making lootbox games to enter the handheld space with a device that kinda fails at being a handheld?

Yes, it's more powerful than the Switch, but try to actually use that power and your battery goes to zero in little over one hour. Not to mention that the screen is abysmal so all those indie games that make a large chunk of Steam Verified games end up looking objectively better on the Switch and play just as well.

So yeah... "Your Steam Library is going places."
Places like the sofa and the toilet because there's no point taking this outside.

The Steam Deck is little more than a status symbol for PC elitists (which is why they hate it when people refer to the Deck as a console), it's the PC gamer's equivalent of buying an expensive watch.

The D-Pad was invented by Nintendo, so were the shoulder buttons and the metroidvania genre that PC gamers love so much. Dual analogues and vIbration? That was playstation.
And 99% of the controllers that gamers use on Steam are made by either Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft. Valve is standing on the shoulders of giants, and their biggest innovation in gaming was creating a market that gambling sites can hook up to and then convincing gullible people that they have nothing to do with it.

*mic drop*

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

There's already a rumor that Sony is working on a new handheld. I hope it's not a streaming-only handheld and more like the Nintendo Switch though. You could just buy an attachable joypad for your phone and do the same thing as a PS5 streaming handheld.

[🌎Earth]

I believe MS and Sony may try eventually since there are now two big handhelds on the market. Sony was in the handheld game before, so I think they would probably do it first - maybe after their hilarious idea of a streaming handheld fails since you can already do exactly this on your phone. I was surprised Xbox didn't come out with something like this first, until I remembered that they already fully embraced the fact you can do this on your phone and even made controllers specifically to turn your phone into a switch/deck like thing.

They'll have a difficult time surpassing the Steam Deck, though, and like every other handheld's fate, they will be quickly hacked to allow for homebrew and all that stuff.

[[?]legit]

Hopefully, and I'm almost certain that sooner or later, they will.

If it has a similar control layout, including the back buttons, this would be an insta buy for me.

The biggest advantage would be that you could enjoy multipalyer games without cheaters. THere are so many fun games the deck could run, but are unplayable due to lack of players or cheaters.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Originalmente postado por reallegit:

Hopefully, and I'm almost certain that sooner or later, they will.

If it has a similar control layout, including the back buttons, this would be an insta buy for me.

The biggest advantage would be that you could enjoy multipalyer games without cheaters. THere are so many fun games the deck could run, but are unplayable due to lack of players or cheaters.

Yeah,if Xbox had one, I'd probably buy it if it has their OG Xbox and Xbox 360 emulator. I've tried XEMU on PC but it's nowhere near as advanced as something like Dolphin.

[Haruspex]

Sony is making a new handheld, but if the leaks are true, then it's just a streaming device and will require a persistent online connection and a PS5 to use.

Microsoft could make a handheld to compete with the Steam Deck. In fact, I think they're really the only ones properly positioned to do so. They already have a PC gaming ecosystem in place, and they have hardware experience. If they made a Windows based PC gaming handheld and priced it aggressively as a loss leader, they could tie it to the Windows store and Gamepass to make up the difference. Whether or not they will do this is another matter.