Personal Opinion, I regret buying a steam deck and think it sucks

[Warlander]

Anyone else actually not like this thing ? If i could get a refund i would. So I Guess i didnt do a lot of research when i ordered it, I imagined something i could play the games i was already playing but on the go or at work etc. But most of the games i play are MMO type games which almost none work or work very poorly.

So then i thought I will use it to play some older games or games i just wouldnt play on my $4k PC Once again most of the options are ♥♥♥♥ , most of the games that are actually good on the steam deck ive already played, and why would i want to play them again but on a smaller screen with worse graphics ?

That brings me to the next thing, the screens too damn small., give me a PC monitor with controlers strapped to the sides cause ive yet to find anything thats actually enjoyable on it EXCEPT the valve made free game where you are a product tester. whatever that was called.

And then there is battery life, not only is it very short in most situations but it takes FOREVER to charge.

Controls also kinda suck, I dont know why, I have a Razer wolverine game controller i use on my PC some times , and i was comparing it in Path of exile ( actually probably the only game i had fun playing on the steam deck) and its like the steam deck just doesnt have proper response on the sticks, i find the movement is hard to keep fluid in comparison.

Then there is heat, no wonder battery life sucks, its a portable heater, thinking my wife might like it cause her hands are cold playing her switch all the time.

So to sum up,A gaming laptop would %100 been a better option, and i will likely sell or trade miy steam deck to do that cause i do like the idea of not being stuck to my PC all the time.

And to any devs out there, particularly valve, make games specifically for the steam deck, it "could" be a good platform for certain types of games but man it just sucks for most of them except maybe side scroller garbage which i didnt even like back in the day when thats all there was.

Peace

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by brian9824:

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

steam link does the same thing at home, why in the world am i gonna lung around a cyberdeck to play a games on when my cellphone does that in my pocket.

can steam deck even play google play games. thats also a big no brainer, was it purposely over sited? im pretty sure steam deck can not play google play or amazon store app games.

Cell phones can't play steam games, that is why. It sounds clear the deck isn't for you, so you can stick to your phone. Also the steam deck could play any games from google or amazon, just have to put an android emulator on it as its a full fledged PC.

Don't worry too much about Fallout 76 guy. He kind of wants a Steam Deck, but can't afford the $400 to get one right now, so he's salty and trying to convince himself that he never wanted it in the first place by making things up about it. Pure sour grapes.

The most negatively opinionated people regarding the Steam Deck often have never even held a Steam Deck.

[CJM]

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

You can install any OS you want on the Deck(outside of Mac because of Apple). You dont' have to use SteamOS.

Understood. That was more a difficulty in wording a thought I was attempting to express. Which was what would the Deck look like with EA Origin or Epic Games skins/UIs instead of Valve, and would EA or Epic invest in a Deck platform.

Valve's Steam Deck UI provides a well thought out and polished interface. Valve clearly worked hard on the Steam Deck, and it shows.

EA may be less concerned with the future of Origin vs Microsoft's app store, because they are a major game publisher. About the only games I've bought from Origin were EA exclusives, so their relationship with me wouldn't change.

Epic might be interested in a "Deck". I'm not sure how many games Epic publishes, I see them more as a game engine developer. I would expect that they see the game store as a lucrative market, and they are making a lot of effort with regards to building a user base. Epic losing to Microsoft's store might hurt.

Epic being one of the big game engine developers, would be in a prime position to switch to ARM or just Apple, should that market shift become a thing. Being a publisher they could offer cross-platform purchases. The future of video gaming might be tied to Epic's decisions. I don't know how successful Valve's licensing of Source has been over the years, but it doesn't seem to have the market presence of Unreal or CryEngine.

Where Valve seems to be moving currently, is towards the Apple business plan. Take an Open Source platform, and place your proprietary system on top of it. Then focus on hardware and innovation. Apple's plan worked quite well for them, brought the company back from bankruptcy. The Steam Deck is an innovative product, if more evolutionary than the revolution that was the iPhone. What is the future of Valve?

[NIK]

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[Jamebonds1]

And could have get PS5 instead of Steam Deck since it is better gaming, hardware and grahpic. Similar price.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Jamebonds1:

And could have get PS5 instead of Steam Deck since it is better gaming, hardware and grahpic. Similar price.

Except it doesn't have access to your Steam library. One of the main draws of the Deck behind it being portable.

They aren't comparable because the Deck isn't a console.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by CJM:

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

I doubt Valve will release a mobile device to be used with mobile app stores. Not only is it an very saturated market, it's also very restrictive.

Less "mobile device" and more "portable". The Switch is an NVidia Tegra device. Tegra is ARM.

The big players in ARM are:

Google (Android), Apple (M1), Nintendo (Switch), Linux (Raspberry Pi). Microsoft is not currently considered a contender.

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

That's why SteamOS and eventually the Deck were even made. As a response to Microsoft saying they were going to require devs to use their Microsoft App Store on Win 8.

I see the Deck as more than a proff-of-concept. I see it as a device telling companies that a handheld PC isn't some pipe-dream anymore. It's very possible with some dedication and people want it.

This makes me wonder about Valve making the Steam Deck more open. OriginOS? EpicOS? Let gamers decide which Store Front they want?

I can't see 2k games/Take Two Interactive having the budget to make a 2kOS. That company looks insolvent from where I am sitting.

It's already open, you can install windows and use EPIC, gamepass, etc. If any of those companies make an OS you could install it as well

[CJM]

Originally posted by brian9824:

It's already open, you can install windows and use EPIC, gamepass, etc. If any of those companies make an OS you could install it as well

Installing Windows and using Epic is a garbage solution right now.

If any of those companies make an OS was the hypothetical I was more so postulating.

The question was about how will Microsoft affect EA's Origin and Epic's game store in the coming years?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by CJM:

Originally posted by brian9824:

It's already open, you can install windows and use EPIC, gamepass, etc. If any of those companies make an OS you could install it as well

Installing Windows and using Epic is a garbage solution right now.

If any of those companies make an OS was the hypothetical I was more so postulating.

The question was about how will Microsoft affect EA's Origin and Epic's game store in the coming years?

I mean, considering how long the Windows store has been out, I doubt it will affect it.

[Malakie]

LOL One lesson learned, don't jump onto the bandwagon because others do. I seriously wonder how 'most' will even get much use out of the thing. I don't mean the kiddies who can play games all day long. I mean your average person that works a real job, has a family, a home and basically sits down at the CPU to enjoy a full on game relaxing period. Stream Deck is good for travel at most. It's a hand held game device that does not compare at all to a full PC experience.

I would even bet there are quite a few units already gathering dust because the experience using one, can't compare to playing a game on a PC. The more I hear about it, the more it solidifies my choice to wait. Just as I have done with VR, which so many claimed was the next big thing ever but turned into a nitch thing that is expensive as heck to support.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Malakie:

LOL One lesson learned, don't jump onto the bandwagon because others do. I seriously wonder how 'most' will even get much use out of the thing. I don't mean the kiddies who can play games all day long. I mean your average person that works a real job, has a family, a home and basically sits down at the CPU to enjoy a full on game relaxing period. Stream Deck is good for travel at most. It's a hand held game device that does not compare at all to a full PC experience.

I would even bet there are quite a few units already gathering dust because the experience using one, can't compare to playing a game on a PC. The more I hear about it, the more it solidifies my choice to wait. Just as I have done with VR, which so many claimed was the next big thing ever but turned into a nitch thing that is expensive as heck to support.

Your generalization is laughably wrong.

Everyone one that I know with a Steam Deck is an adult with a full time job and relationship. One even runs a business.

They use them constantly. In fact, for me, it has allowed more time with my SO because I can now play games on the couch when I'm with them instead of a separate room.

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Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

Don't worry too much about Fallout 76 guy. He kind of wants a Steam Deck, but can't afford the $400 to get one right now, so he's salty and trying to convince himself that he never wanted it in the first place by making things up about it. Pure sour grapes.

The most negatively opinionated people regarding the Steam Deck often have never even held a Steam Deck.

i have never drove a tesla and i don't want one, after seeing them fail to brake and the batteries explode. would you want to drive one for 40,000? of course i haven't held a steam deck i am not the type of person who wants to be the first one to make a mistake, i would rather read over reviews, wait till i find a steam deck one sale for a good price. possibly even wait until steam deck os updates and is less buggy, typically all new devices have trial and error for over a year or two, you can't just expect things to run right, out the gate,

will steam recall all the steam decks that start exploding or catching on fire when the battery casings degrade an start to leak from long hours of being pluged into a dock station, or will it just be "buy another one?"

maybe i should update my name to "why buy a steam deck" would it give you something better to comment on rather then fallout 76? say i wanted to play fallout 76 on my steam deck could it even handle it??

[Jamebonds1]

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

Originally posted by Jamebonds1:

And could have get PS5 instead of Steam Deck since it is better gaming, hardware and grahpic. Similar price.

Except it doesn't have access to your Steam library. One of the main draws of the Deck behind it being portable.

They aren't comparable because the Deck isn't a console.

I refuse discussing with you due to unable to compromise each other in the past.

However, you missing the point that game consoles like PS5/Xbox1Series are better for the online videogame (i.e. Call of Duty).

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Jamebonds1:

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

Except it doesn't have access to your Steam library. One of the main draws of the Deck behind it being portable.

They aren't comparable because the Deck isn't a console.

I refuse discussing with you due to unable to compromise each other in the past.

However, you missing the point that game consoles like PS5/Xbox1Series are better for the online videogame (i.e. Call of Duty).

Neither are 'better' since they all have the option of wifi or wired Ethernet. There's nothing in the consoles that give them an advantage online.

The quality of the online is dependent on the servers(if it has them), your internet quality, and the game itself.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

Don't worry too much about Fallout 76 guy. He kind of wants a Steam Deck, but can't afford the $400 to get one right now, so he's salty and trying to convince himself that he never wanted it in the first place by making things up about it. Pure sour grapes.

The most negatively opinionated people regarding the Steam Deck often have never even held a Steam Deck.

will steam recall all the steam decks that start exploding or catching on fire when the battery casings degrade an start to leak from long hours of being pluged into a dock station, or will it just be "buy another one?"

This is a big assumption to say with such certainty considering battery issues will generally show up early on in the life of the electronics with them.

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

maybe i should update my name to "why buy a steam deck" would it give you something better to comment on rather then fallout 76? say i wanted to play fallout 76 on my steam deck could it even handle it??

Considering how horrible optimized FO76 is, even higher end computers have a hard time running it. It probably could after some tweaking with the graphical settings. Even Elden Ring can get a stable 30fps fairly easily.

[Jamebonds1]

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

Originally posted by Jamebonds1:

I refuse discussing with you due to unable to compromise each other in the past.

However, you missing the point that game consoles like PS5/Xbox1Series are better for the online videogame (i.e. Call of Duty).

Neither are 'better' since they all have the option of wifi or wired Ethernet. There's nothing in the consoles that give them an advantage online.

The quality of the online is dependent on the servers(if it has them), your internet quality, and the game itself.

Actually, as a PS5 owner there is no downgrade differ to the PC. There is a lot of advantages on PS5 that PC doesn't.