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People thinking a PS5 is high end in any regard is laughable was my point. When it was released, its hardware was already almost 2 generations behind. The only reasons consoles can play anything with high fidelity is sacrificing FPS, and this is with the ability to have a solid ecosystem where you can optimize at the fullest for the hardware.
I wouldn't call the PS5 high end either, but it does hold an insane value for the price you buy it for. And that makes it a serious competitor to similar priced gaming pcs.
Considering the Deck has a good bit of customer hardware that was made specifically for the Deck, it's a bit disingenuous to call it 'dated'. You're also ignoring the fact the Deck isn't sold or boasted about being a high performance machine like the new generation of consoles are. It doesn't try to boast about having ridiculous hardware to push limits. The games you can't play are because of the devs not flicking a switch to allow Linux on their anti-cheat. Even then, those games are very few and far between.
If devs didn't care about the Deck like you claim, then they literally wouldn't be working on making control layouts or making it get verified for the Deck. But they are so obviously they do.
No it doesn't. When you buy a console, you are locking yourself to a confined ecosystem. I can't boot up a PS5 and run a LoZ randomizer. I can't boot up a PS5 and play my GoG games. I mean hell, I can't boot up a PS5, go to any digital storefront and buy anything I want.
There is no 'competition' between a PS5 and a similar priced PC. There's only shackling yourself to Sony or not.
You are locking yourself much more into an ecosystem with the steam deck, because the games not only have to exist on the PC, they must also be supported from the whole proton and linux nonsense. PC gaming is already bloated and complicated, but what the deck does goes beyond any common sense.
What is a LoZ randomizer? Sorr,y never heard in all my gaming years on various platform of that term, but I'm gald the deck supports a LoZ randomizer.
Empty, "pc masterrace" minded words. I'd rather "shackle" myself to sony any day, than to all the greedy pubs whose 3rd party adware launchers I am forced to install in order to play my games. And that's just one of the many flaws PC gaming has nowadays, compared to an easy peasy console life. A PS5 is a viable alternative to a gaming PC.
But the one thing the steam deck does allow for, us customization and tweaking, sadly gone from consoles these days since modding them gets ya booted from the ecosystem.
i have seen you make the comment about researching the product like 100 times now , is it possible that the product is saying that it does something that it can't and that no amount of research will matter if the product can't really forfill the statements which it makes.
1. you can't really play steam games on it you can only play local games from your steam list and most degrade battery life and or choppy.
2. it has no internal connection and requires wifi to download there is no 5g so its not really on the go like someone's cellphone game. there is only a limited selection of single non online games that will work with it if you are traveling. Optional tethering my be possible but again additional cost, data rates, and poor connection apply. this could be extremely expensive for a player to download a pc version of a 40 gig game from steam over 5G because most pc based games are huge compared to mobile apps.
3. fragile enough that if you drop it , its gonna break, and make it unusable. i seen someone post something about taking a steam deck to the beach which lol if it gets sand in it, what a mess with controllers and sand. if it gets wet im sure it has issues and if you put it on the roof of your car well gonna be honest you clearly don't give a crap about your steam deck and its not even important to you if you forgot such a expensive piece of hardware. i feel like nothing really stated is true, and that half of these posts are just to cover up what a mess the idea was from the beinging.
steam link does the same thing at home, why in the world am i gonna lung around a cyberdeck to play a games on when my cellphone does that in my pocket.
can steam deck even play google play games. thats also a big no brainer, was it purposely over sited? im pretty sure steam deck can not play google play or amazon store app games.
Except if you buy digital games(like over 70% of game sales), need a day 1 patch(like most major releases), or(my personal favorite) the disc just has the verification to install the game. A great majority of the games run perfectly fine on the Steam Deck. No 'proton tricks' required.
Ahh yes, locking yourself to the ecosystem where you can install any program you want or play any game from any storefront that isn't a console. I forgot how restrictive that is.
If you think PC gaming is 'bloated and complicated' I'm honestly surprised you have a Steam account considering what the main purpose of Steam is. I would love to hear how what the Deck does 'goes beyond common sense' when it's literally a handheld PC that runs Linux.
You make is sound like some foreign device that you need to know a different language to even turn on.
It's a Legend of Zelda randomizer. A custom rom of the LoZ games from various systems.
Ah yes, because Sony totally isn't a 'greedy pub' at all. I would like you to list out all the games that require a 3rd party account from Steam and compare that to the ones who don't.
I would like to thank you for this though. It's very entertaining seeing someone who was actively suggesting features for the Deck in its forums try and act like the Deck is some hugely complicated device. I guess you sold yours then? Or did you install Win 11 on it and start complaining about the issues when Windows isn't supported?
Just for brevity's sake, this is the post i'm referring to on the Deck forums which you made. It also has a post where you state that you can use the Switch console as a controller so you should be able to use the Deck as one. But that's irrelevant.
Have you no understanding of what Proton is?
Proton is an ecosystem OPENER. The whole point is to BREAK from being locked into any particular ecosystem.
Proton and Linux are two separate things. Proton IS the Windows ecosystem, you don't support Proton, you support Windows.
Linux is the GNU ecosystem. You either support Linux, or you ignore both it and Proton.
What the Deck does is provide an adaptable controller for PC gaming.
The Deck is a robust device for many, a janky PC running Linux for others. I'm quite pleased with my investment. I knew 100% what I was getting, being a computer tech. I got exactly what I wanted.
It is possible. That isn't the case with what you have said about the Deck though because It's stuff I have personally done with mine. Hence why I assert you actually didn't research what the Deck is or does.
1. The device is literally integrated into your Steam account with a custom OS. You can play Steam games on it. Dependent on the game will depend on the performance. More intensive games will struggle but a great majority can by played easily at 30fps or more. Especially after tweaking the settings of the game like you would do on a computer.
2. It's a handheld PC. It's expected to use Wifi. If you want Ethernet, the official Dock and plety of other 3rd party docks have that port. You're free to buy those since Valve made sure as many docks and hubs are supported as they could find. That something to consider when purchasing the device. It wasn't made to be a cellphone adjacent device. It was made to be a PC adjacent device.
3. You mean like 90% of electronics that aren't made to be dropped? You mean like tablets and cellphones which you keep ranting about being good enough? Of course taking the thing to the beach runs the risk of getting sand in it, you're at a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ beach. That's user error, not an issue with the device. Almost all of your post about 'problems' with the Deck are either very overblown, false, or due to user error.
The Deck can do what the Steam Link can as well as leave your house and still have access to the games you've installed on it. They are not comparable.
You mean the mobile app store that sells and distributes mobile phone applications for mobile devices?
No, it can't because it is not a mobile phone. It is not a cellular device.
If you really wanted to use cellular apps for some asinine reason, you can install and setup Anbox or Waydroid to connect to your Play account and download your mobile apps.
Doesn't need one, you'd load your games in advance or connect to a wifi. Same with every other portable computer like a laptop.
Then don't drop it, if you drop your phone it can break, if you drop your laptop it can break.
Cell phones can't play steam games, that is why. It sounds clear the deck isn't for you, so you can stick to your phone. Also the steam deck could play any games from google or amazon, just have to put an android emulator on it as its a full fledged PC.
You don't like it, plenty of other people do. I personally wouldn't bother with it either because I don't need it, so I didn't buy one.
This is an interesting point of discussion.
The Steam Deck serves as a "Proof-of-Concept" for a Microsoft answer to the Switch. Valve's Steam provides a more polished UI than just a clunky handheld Microsoft based device. A Premium Windows handheld, ironically without Windows itself. One that also opens up the possibility of shifting to Linux for easier cross-platform support during a shift to ARM devices.
The goal of the Deck is to be graphically superior to the Android platform. Furthermore, The Google Play Store is much more difficult to compete with for Valve, than the Microsoft Store.
Should Valve release an ARM based gadget, it will be starting entirely from scratch. Starting with an x86 Linux platform is hedging one's bets, in case Windows doesn't survive ARM.
Which leaves Windows RT, and the Surface Pro X. Is Microsoft's survival an NVidia Tegra device like the Switch or Steam Deck? Does Valve survive Windows RT?
I doubt Valve will release a mobile device to be used with mobile app stores. Not only is it an very saturated market, it's also very restrictive.
That's why SteamOS and eventually the Deck were even made. As a response to Microsoft saying they were going to require devs to use their Microsoft App Store on Win 8.
I see the Deck as more than a proff-of-concept. I see it as a device telling companies that a handheld PC isn't some pipe-dream anymore. It's very possible with some dedication and people want it.
The big players in ARM are:
Google (Android), Apple (M1), Nintendo (Switch), Linux (Raspberry Pi). Microsoft is not currently considered a contender.
This makes me wonder about an OriginOS? EpicOS?
I can't see 2k games/Take Two Interactive having the budget to make a 2kOS. That company looks insolvent from where I am sitting.
You can install any OS you want on the Deck(outside of Mac because of Apple). You dont' have to use SteamOS.