Steam Deck

Steam Deck

kilésengati Nov 18, 2022 @ 3:21pm
Changed layout for desktop mode.
Why is the left mousepad no longer clicking the right mouse button, but pasting? Using the triggers as mouse buttons sucks. Also Big Picture now opens every now and then, when I try opening the keyboard. What happened with the last update? This is not an improvement!

Any ideas on how to fix it?
Last edited by kilésengati; Nov 18, 2022 @ 3:23pm
Originally posted by KMO:
This was mentioned in the release notes, but should have been mentioned louder. It's a good change, but not obvious - particularly as you would have to go to that Steam -> Settings -> Controller -> Desktop Configuration to even see what the layout is.

The default desktop controller config is now a two-layer one, defaulting to a desktop configuration with A = Return, B = Escape, X = Show Keyboard, Y = Space, D-pad = arrow keys, etc.

You toggle to a direct gamepad layout with a long press of Menu/Start/whatever you call the thing with three lines.

I didn't see any change because I had a custom desktop layout already, and it doesn't forcibly override a custom layout. But I can switch to the new default.

(The desktop layer is similar to what I'd already done for my custom config - it's super convenient to have arrow keys and Enter and others for command recall, and I'm not playing games in desktop mode, so didn't need the gamepad functions. But having it two layer is smarter.)
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Nanashi Nov 18, 2022 @ 5:59pm 
Steam -> Settings -> Controller -> Desktop Configuration
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KMO Nov 18, 2022 @ 11:01pm 
This was mentioned in the release notes, but should have been mentioned louder. It's a good change, but not obvious - particularly as you would have to go to that Steam -> Settings -> Controller -> Desktop Configuration to even see what the layout is.

The default desktop controller config is now a two-layer one, defaulting to a desktop configuration with A = Return, B = Escape, X = Show Keyboard, Y = Space, D-pad = arrow keys, etc.

You toggle to a direct gamepad layout with a long press of Menu/Start/whatever you call the thing with three lines.

I didn't see any change because I had a custom desktop layout already, and it doesn't forcibly override a custom layout. But I can switch to the new default.

(The desktop layer is similar to what I'd already done for my custom config - it's super convenient to have arrow keys and Enter and others for command recall, and I'm not playing games in desktop mode, so didn't need the gamepad functions. But having it two layer is smarter.)
May Nov 19, 2022 @ 2:56am 
Originally posted by KMO:
This was mentioned in the release notes, but should have been mentioned louder. It's a good change, but not obvious - particularly as you would have to go to that Steam -> Settings -> Controller -> Desktop Configuration to even see what the layout is.

The default desktop controller config is now a two-layer one, defaulting to a desktop configuration with A = Return, B = Escape, X = Show Keyboard, Y = Space, D-pad = arrow keys, etc.

You toggle to a direct gamepad layout with a long press of Menu/Start/whatever you call the thing with three lines.

I didn't see any change because I had a custom desktop layout already, and it doesn't forcibly override a custom layout. But I can switch to the new default.

(The desktop layer is similar to what I'd already done for my custom config - it's super convenient to have arrow keys and Enter and others for command recall, and I'm not playing games in desktop mode, so didn't need the gamepad functions. But having it two layer is smarter.)

Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! :steamthumbsup:
kilésengati Nov 19, 2022 @ 4:46am 
Originally posted by KMO:
This was mentioned in the release notes, but should have been mentioned louder. It's a good change, but not obvious - particularly as you would have to go to that Steam -> Settings -> Controller -> Desktop Configuration to even see what the layout is.

The default desktop controller config is now a two-layer one, defaulting to a desktop configuration with A = Return, B = Escape, X = Show Keyboard, Y = Space, D-pad = arrow keys, etc.

You toggle to a direct gamepad layout with a long press of Menu/Start/whatever you call the thing with three lines.

I didn't see any change because I had a custom desktop layout already, and it doesn't forcibly override a custom layout. But I can switch to the new default.

(The desktop layer is similar to what I'd already done for my custom config - it's super convenient to have arrow keys and Enter and others for command recall, and I'm not playing games in desktop mode, so didn't need the gamepad functions. But having it two layer is smarter.)

Thanks, but I can't figure out how to disable the Steam button or use it for activating a different layer instead of starting Big Picture.
KMO Nov 19, 2022 @ 7:09am 
Okay, the Steam button didn't seem to be doing anything for me, but then I launched Big Picture manually, and after than a quick tap of it seems to be launching Big Picture. Seems like the intent is that it does that, but all the Big Picture stuff (including its config windows) seem a bit flakey to launch sometimes.

But you can hold Steam for modifier things like Steam+X for keyboard - it's only a tap that tries to launch Big Picture.

Not sure you can ever configure the Steam button in a configuration yourself, can you?
kilésengati Nov 19, 2022 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by KMO:
Okay, the Steam button didn't seem to be doing anything for me, but then I launched Big Picture manually, and after than a quick tap of it seems to be launching Big Picture. Seems like the intent is that it does that, but all the Big Picture stuff (including its config windows) seem a bit flakey to launch sometimes.

But you can hold Steam for modifier things like Steam+X for keyboard - it's only a tap that tries to launch Big Picture.

Not sure you can ever configure the Steam button in a configuration yourself, can you?

Bloody hell, the Steam button opening Big Picture gets incredibly frustrating and is a waste of buttons. If I'd want Big Picture, I'd switch back to Game Mode!
Let it be the default, but let us change it also!!
Last edited by kilésengati; Nov 19, 2022 @ 3:01pm
May Nov 19, 2022 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by KMO:
Okay, the Steam button didn't seem to be doing anything for me, but then I launched Big Picture manually, and after than a quick tap of it seems to be launching Big Picture. Seems like the intent is that it does that, but all the Big Picture stuff (including its config windows) seem a bit flakey to launch sometimes.

But you can hold Steam for modifier things like Steam+X for keyboard - it's only a tap that tries to launch Big Picture.

Not sure you can ever configure the Steam button in a configuration yourself, can you?

In desktop mode on an actual Pc there is a setting you can disable that makes exactly that: you press for example the xbox guide button (the one that has light) and big picture opens.

Im on mobile right now so I don't remember where that option is, although I assume is in settings > controller.

Maybe now the steam button acts as the xbox guide and you can disable that function in desktop mode on the deck. I know because I have that option disabled on my Pc.
KMO Nov 20, 2022 @ 2:05am 
Yes, that's it. Presumably the Steam button wasn't mapped to Guide before, but it now is, causing this behaviour.

You want to disable Settings > Controller > General Controller Settings > Guide Button Focuses Steam. (That only opens Big Picture if it's running - otherwise it just opens a normal steam window).
KMO Nov 20, 2022 @ 3:43am 
Although why this behaviour should be any worse than the Gaming mode "short press for the Steam menu, hold for brightness/keyboard/etc short-cut", I'm not sure... It's logically the same.
Nanashi Nov 20, 2022 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by KMO:
Although why this behaviour should be any worse than the Gaming mode "short press for the Steam menu, hold for brightness/keyboard/etc short-cut", I'm not sure... It's logically the same.
Occasionally it'll open the Steam window after inputting Show Keyboard, and you'll have to put the keyboard down and close the window. SteamOS 3.4 Preview also has an issue where closing the keyboard in desktop mode can cause the system to crash, which makes any extra usage of it bad.
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Date Posted: Nov 18, 2022 @ 3:21pm
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