Steam Deck

Steam Deck

DarkEmpire Aug 6, 2022 @ 3:58am
Steam dock??
Will we hear anything more about this?

It's been a while since there was an update and it's been delayed,
And that there is something to shorten of components
Since the Steam deck is much faster with delivery and parts are better available

I think there should be steam dock soon too
And in the meantime, valve Would have made any adjustments ''besides the usb''
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OGNocturnal Aug 7, 2022 @ 3:30pm 
Have you tested the Plugable @ 120mhz dual screen at all Mahjik?
Asking for a friend ;) and yes im serious
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Zychon Aug 7, 2022 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by ba0701:
Originally posted by ugafan:

Are you using the mouse in game mode? Because it works for me in desktop mode, but not in game mode.

It's wireless, a Logitech G602.

Yes, while docked. Some RTS' I have installed, don't work with a controller, and so I have to use the mouse and keyboard, and they both work just fine in Game Mode.

I am struggling to find *any* reason at all to play in game mode when docked. On many games I have tried the mouse is unsusable. A few the keyboard wont work in certain menus. Some popup dialog boxes fail to show.

Only up-sides I can find: You have quick access to controller configuration and button access to steam friends etc.

...but game mode only displays on one monitor. If you play in desktop mode, your deck's monitor is on and can be used for your friends list or whatever. A lot of times, I have videos playing down there while I play. I'm starting to think of Game Mode as more like "Portable Mode".
Murasakino Rin Aug 7, 2022 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by ba0701:

Originally posted by ugafan:
Valve hasn't fixed these problems yet, both of which will need to be addressed before a Dock is sold.

1. Can't select output resolution to tv while in game mode.
2. Mouse doesn't work properly in game mode.

Yeah, I could see how the output resolution might be an issue. It defaults to 720P for me, and since I am running it currently on a 1080P TV and I think that might hurt gaming performance if I ran it that high. so I am happy with that. But if/when I decide to plug it into my 4K TV, then I could definitely see where it might be an issue for things outside of gaming.

The mouse I have not experienced. I use my mouse all the time, currently using a Logitech G903, and it works fine, even allows me to adjust the sensor resolution through my saved profiles from my Windows PC. Is your mouse wired or wireless?

i have had no problems with the mouse setup either. although i do not have a dock currently so i am not sure if thats a directly a docked issue or not.

is there a way to use a logi mouse without the usb block?
ba0701 Aug 7, 2022 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Zychon:
I have yet to plug in a third display in the DisplayPort jack, nor have I tried 4K. I just got this one because I was sure it supported DisplayPort 1.4.

Thems some high-dollar docks though, Mahjik. Would be willing to try one out, but only if this one kicks the bucket.

I have a 4K 144hz ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQ, that I might use as well as a Sony 4K XBR75Z9F, both of which currently have my desktop plugged into them, making it doubtful that the Steam Deck will be plugged into those, except for testing purposes.

4K isn't a real requirement for my Deck, as currently I think it just wouldn't support playable framerates. Though, I am one who normally buys the latest in technology simply because I may not need it today, but I likely will tomorrow, trying to minimize repurchasing things when I can. So, if 4K 60 is the latest available, that is likely what I will normally buy, because my wife's tablet supports that resolution, among other devices in the house.

That Wavlink is a really interesting looking device, it is loaded with ports and slots, has it given you any issues to this point, does everything work like you'd hope/expect? I wonder if you formatted and installed games onto a micro sd card plugged into your Deck, if it could them be read plugged into the slot on your dock. I ask this, because using a USB SSD requires a lot of extra steps in order to get it recognized as a Steam Library drive, steps that aren't obvious to a newb like myself. I did find a video where the guy explains how to do it, step by step, but I haven't gotten around to that yet. I am still trying to get OpenRazer working on my Deck at the moment. If those SD card slots on your dock can be used, I very well may go grab one now.
ba0701 Aug 7, 2022 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Zychon:
Originally posted by ba0701:

Yes, while docked. Some RTS' I have installed, don't work with a controller, and so I have to use the mouse and keyboard, and they both work just fine in Game Mode.

I am struggling to find *any* reason at all to play in game mode when docked. On many games I have tried the mouse is unsusable. A few the keyboard wont work in certain menus. Some popup dialog boxes fail to show.

Only up-sides I can find: You have quick access to controller configuration and button access to steam friends etc.

...but game mode only displays on one monitor. If you play in desktop mode, your deck's monitor is on and can be used for your friends list or whatever. A lot of times, I have videos playing down there while I play. I'm starting to think of Game Mode as more like "Portable Mode".

That is a very interesting idea, have you tested dual monitors in extended mode? If that works, that would be a really useful setup. I currently have Age of Empires 3 DE, Ancestors Legacy, Battle Brothers, Desperados 3, Dungeons 3, Gears Tactics, Halo Wars DE, Jurassic World Evolution 1 and 2, Planet Zoo, Sudden Strike 4, Tropico 6, Dawn of War 1 and 2 and all expansions, War for the Overworld, and Warhammer Gladius all curently installed, and have played all of them with my keyboard and mouse (except Battle Brothers, which I forgot was installed until I just noticed it for this list, but will be testing it as soon as I post this). A couple of them, such as Sudden Strike 4 and a couple of others, seemed to experience a little latency in the mouse, in game mode, but the mouse still works.

What kind of mouse issues are you having, does it simply not work at all, or is there latency, jerkiness, or something similar? One of my biggest issues with using the mouse in gaming made, is the scroll wheel almost seems to do about 1/4 of a line with each click, it takes forever to scroll through the Steam menus, but it seems to work ok while in-game.
ba0701 Aug 7, 2022 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Murasakino Rin:
Originally posted by ba0701:



Yeah, I could see how the output resolution might be an issue. It defaults to 720P for me, and since I am running it currently on a 1080P TV and I think that might hurt gaming performance if I ran it that high. so I am happy with that. But if/when I decide to plug it into my 4K TV, then I could definitely see where it might be an issue for things outside of gaming.

The mouse I have not experienced. I use my mouse all the time, currently using a Logitech G903, and it works fine, even allows me to adjust the sensor resolution through my saved profiles from my Windows PC. Is your mouse wired or wireless?

i have had no problems with the mouse setup either. although i do not have a dock currently so i am not sure if thats a directly a docked issue or not.

is there a way to use a logi mouse without the usb block?

I do not know how you would use a mouse without a USB hub, unless you could fine either a bluetooth mouse, or a USB C dongle. I don't think the Logitech G903 I have has Bluetooth capability. My Corsair K63 keyboard does, however, and when connected with Bluetooth I experienced some serious latency when using it in game, but that cleared up when I switched back to the dongle.
Last edited by ba0701; Aug 7, 2022 @ 4:13pm
Zychon Aug 7, 2022 @ 4:14pm 
No issues so far and it's the first one that didn't in the three devices that I've tried, though those were just what I had laying around. All usb ports work simultaneously, no power errors or poor charging or wierd display issues on connect or disconnect (I think it feeds up to 85W down the USB-C of the 100W capacity).

iirc, the SD slots on the dock share a drive assignment, so are either/or and not both at the same time. That's not a big deal. I have put my game libraries on multiple SD cards and also have a bootable Windows SD card ...but those are all from the Deck's slot, I have only accessed files from the Wavlink's SD. I will do some more tinkering later and let you know more if I can.

...I have not tried the VGA out either. :steammocking:
ba0701 Aug 7, 2022 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Zychon:
No issues so far and it's the first one that didn't in the three devices that I've tried, though those were just what I had laying around. All usb ports work simultaneously, no power errors or poor charging or wierd display issues on connect or disconnect (I think it feeds up to 85W down the USB-C of the 100W capacity).

iirc, the SD slots on the dock share a drive assignment, so are either/or and not both at the same time. That's not a big deal. I have put my game libraries on multiple SD cards and also have a bootable Windows SD card ...but those are all from the Deck's slot, I have only accessed files from the Wavlink's SD. I will do some more tinkering later and let you know more if I can.

...I have not tried the VGA out either. :steammocking:

I just tested Battle Brothers in Game Mode, and the KB/M both worked just fine. But, you made a very valid point, why would I do that, and I do not have a good reason for doing so. I just had been. When I can switch to 1080P in games that can run at that resolution while in desktop mode, not to mention I can stop bouncing back and forth from game playing to desktop mode to surf the web. It really doesn't make sense to go to game mode at all. I can simply use it like a proper desktop, now I just need to scale the UI to make it a little more readable in desktop mode.

Please do let us know about using the SD slots for Deck memory cards, that would really be a big deal for me. I have an external card reader I can hook up and try, but I am not sure how fast it is. If we can access multiple SD cards simultaneously while docked could be a big deal.
ba0701 Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:08pm 
What I have found so far, regarding accessing an SD card from a reader external to the Deck. Initially, I simply plugged in my 512GB card, which had previously been used in the Deck prior to my getting a 1TB Sandisk Extreme. Steam saw the card, and allowed me to uninstall, and move games to it. However, as I mentioned the card had been used before, and it had some of the same games installed on it, that now resided on my internal and 1TB SD card that was plugged directly into the Deck. In order to save time, I decided on partitioning the card again, using KDE from desktop mode.

It worked fine, but Steam would no longer allow me to use the card for my Library, so I removed my 1TB card, and moved the 512 from the reader to the Deck's SD card slot. From there I was able to add my Library. I decided to try moving a 21GB game from the internal HDD, and it began, but it was painfully slow. So, I am currently formatting the 512 card on my PC using the minitool Partition Wizard Free version (I used this on my 1TB card, and it works great, very fast). The slow speed I experienced during the copying had nothing to do with the external reader, since during that operation the card was plugged directly into the Deck. This card was not previously this slow, so I believe it may have to do with the Deck partitioning/formatting, since I have experienced this previously as well. I expect the 512 card to be slower than the 1TB, but not this much slower.

So, I will finish my testing once the formatting is done (likely about 2 hours). But what I have found is that a Micro SD Card is accessible when connected externally to the Deck, but it must be added to your Steam Library while plugged into the Deck Micro SD slot. Once we have tested, we will also have a better idea on the kind of speeds I might expect from doing this with the 512 card too.
ba0701 Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:43pm 
Since Zychon shone light on running Steam from desktop mode for me, I have found one issue. Certainly not a deal breaker entirely, but does anyone know how to scale the Steam UI while in desktop mode? I have set the global scale to 150%, and that seems to literally have scaled everything BUT the Steam UI. The text is so small, that it is unreadable though I only about 8 feet away. Everything else has been enlarged, almost too much, including Firefox, Dolphin, Discover, you name it. I can't seem to find anything related to UI scaling in the app settings either.
Last edited by ba0701; Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:43pm
Zychon Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:51pm 
From my exp, the format and move tools that are part of the deck are slow and I can understand that. Cannot manage to find a single displayport adapter or cable in the house. I did manage to find an old VGA cable, and tried it just for kicks. In desktop mode it works without issue at 1080.

No clue what kind of warlock nonsense is going on behind the scenes, but I'm guessing the dock is converting digital to analog, outputting that to the VGA cable, and the monitor is converting it back to digital. ...It works, and no issues when playing games, etc.
Zychon Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by ba0701:
Since Zychon shone light on running Steam from desktop mode for me, I have found one issue. Certainly not a deal breaker entirely, but does anyone know how to scale the Steam UI while in desktop mode? I have set the global scale to 150%, and that seems to literally have scaled everything BUT the Steam UI. The text is so small, that it is unreadable though I only about 8 feet away. Everything else has been enlarged, almost too much, including Firefox, Dolphin, Discover, you name it. I can't seem to find anything related to UI scaling in the app settings either.

The UI scaling on steam windows doesn't work on the Linux client as far as I can tell, though I have never really dug. Tried on Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch with different desktop, environments/window managers. And now SteamOS. I think back to Windows and how some older programs just look fuzzy and magnified. I guess that's a workaround that Linux doesn't do, though there may be something out there on github.
Murasakino Rin Aug 7, 2022 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by ba0701:
Originally posted by Murasakino Rin:

i have had no problems with the mouse setup either. although i do not have a dock currently so i am not sure if thats a directly a docked issue or not.

is there a way to use a logi mouse without the usb block?

I do not know how you would use a mouse without a USB hub, unless you could fine either a bluetooth mouse, or a USB C dongle. I don't think the Logitech G903 I have has Bluetooth capability. My Corsair K63 keyboard does, however, and when connected with Bluetooth I experienced some serious latency when using it in game, but that cleared up when I switched back to the dongle.

i have a OTG Cable that came with one of my older phones, while its better then nothing when it comes to mouse use while on desktop, i was able to re-bind my track pad and triggers to act more like the steam controller on desktop.

also no issues when in gaming mode for games that require mouse inputs
ugafan Aug 7, 2022 @ 8:01pm 
For those not having issues with the mouse while in game mode, can you please test a first person shooter and report back your results.
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