Issues after replacing thermal paste

[directorguy7]

Been doing this stuff on PCs and Laptops for decades with never an issue.

After putting battery in shipping mode I cleaned off APU and heatsink and applied Thermal Grizzly. Temps where in the mid 80c once a game gets up and running and the temps settle. Temps are now in high 70c to low 80c, so its running cooler.

Problem is after about 10 minutes in Sekiro, Deck suddenly shuts down, kept fan running for a little bit before turning off. Could turn it on, but nothing would show on screen, but fan and touchpads would work. A disconnect of battery fixed this.

Tried Sekiro again, same crash. This time waited a while after hitting power button and Deck did start. I think it knows it crashed hard and is doing something different from its "normal" startup. Deck does verify installation when it boots back up after these crashes as well. Confirmed no need to disconnect battery.

Tried Kingdom Come Deliverance to really push the hardware. Temps stayed in the high 70s low 80s. This time deck crashes and get checkerboard green square artifacts. Held power down to shut down, and was able to start back up. These artifacts really make me think the APUs GPU is actually overheating. Have not reapplied thermal paste yet, want to get opinions. Is it possible there could be a spot that just didn't set right when heatsink was reapplied that's overheating that the temp sensor is not catching?

Also, these don't feel like memory overheating, though I am curious about that. From what I can tell when I took the heatsink off is memory has no pads or anything to help with heat, and are just open air (technically relying on the fan to pull cool air over them, but still.)

I dont see how putting in battery shipping, and applying thermal paste could cause a software issue, so I dont think a total reimage to factory would do anything productive?

Also, any one know how to setup hardware logs to confirm temps or possibly deck is logging an error at crash?

[directorguy7]

Poison Dart Frag původně napsal:

Is that the metal based one that can cause shorts if it drips or smears in the wrong spot?

No, their Kryonaut product. Non conductive.

[directorguy7]

IronicLyricistProphetofTruth původně napsal:

Id used a graphite pad when i built my pc.. its 11$ on amazon for a 30mm² pad n it works rather well

Interesting. I always stayed away from pads and did paste, as pads never cooled as well. That has been a long time, so actually curious if they have improved to be on par with paste?(liquid metal is a whole other game.)

[IronicLyricist]

directorguy7 původně napsal:

IronicLyricistProphetofTruth původně napsal:

Id used a graphite pad when i built my pc.. its 11$ on amazon for a 30mm² pad n it works rather well

Interesting. I always stayed away from pads and did paste, as pads never cooled as well. That has been a long time, so actually curious if they have improved to be on par with paste?(liquid metal is a whole other game.)

Innovation Cooling Graphite Thermal Pad – Alternative to Thermal Paste/Grease (30 X 30 mm) https://a.co/d/2UyN4Sx

I have a i5 9400f with the stock fan n my cpu is about 95-100 F idle n just booted... rn im running borderlands 3 on high settings while galaxys updating 2077 and it peaks at about 180.. at 90% cpu usage ..takes lessn a minute from closing the game to cool to 150...takes about 5 minutes to cool down to below 130...did this test just to verify the temps.. idk if thats good or not tho im sure its over due for a dusting out.. i just chose it cuz the long life n less mess XD

[fender178]

This one Youtuber had the same idea as you because he thought that Valve cheaped out on the thermal paste on the Deck and he used the same stuff you did that Kryonaut stuff and it had a negative effect and I thought it might be because it had a cure time but according to a quick google search there is no cure time for this brand of Thermal Paste. Here is a video of that the YouTuber did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBx-13a4OMo

Also according to one of the comments on that video if you ever looked at the thermal compound on Gaming Laptops the viscosity of the paste is important and Valve used a clay like thick thermal compound for a reason.

[directorguy7]

fender178 původně napsal:

This one Youtuber had the same idea as you because he thought that Valve cheaped out on the thermal paste on the Deck and he used the same stuff you did that Kryonaut stuff and it had a negative effect and I thought it might be because it had a cure time but according to a quick google search there is no cure time for this brand of Thermal Paste. Here is a video of that the YouTuber did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBx-13a4OMo

Also according to one of the comments on that video if you ever looked at the thermal compound on Gaming Laptops the viscosity of the paste is important and Valve used a clay like thick thermal compound for a reason.

Weird. I definitely got better thermals using it.

[TheKerevas]

fender178 původně napsal:

This one Youtuber had the same idea as you because he thought that Valve cheaped out on the thermal paste on the Deck and he used the same stuff you did that Kryonaut stuff and it had a negative effect and I thought it might be because it had a cure time but according to a quick google search there is no cure time for this brand of Thermal Paste. Here is a video of that the YouTuber did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBx-13a4OMo

Also according to one of the comments on that video if you ever looked at the thermal compound on Gaming Laptops the viscosity of the paste is important and Valve used a clay like thick thermal compound for a reason.

So from the test done by this youtuber, changing thermal paste is useless... I thought I'd do it next summer but seeing the video it's not worth it...

[Ain]

I had this issue with my SD, played for 12mins on MH Rise then just crashed, fans is running, no display, touch pads are working. Force shutdown the device retried again, nothing worked. Tried plugging in my recovery usb and it doesn't even boot up on the recovery state. I even tried re-applying the thermal paste but still SD won't display anything, i used Noctua NT-H1.

[jm764]

Just wanted to say I also ran into this problem when adding both new Thermal Paste (Artic MX-2) and Liquid Metal (CooLaboratory LIQUID Pro) to the Steam Deck.

Seems there is a VERY SPECIFIC COOLER PRESSURE that if mounted with too low preasure will cause over heating or TOO HIGH will press on the die to hard causing all sorts of gpu core issues (proably the contact for the die shifts too far).

Unfortunately it seems realy hard to guage the exact pressure needed so if possible it's best to not replace the paste unless youre willing to risk the die while doing so.


For now I just losened it enough to still contact whit higher temps as I bios modded mine to run at 4GHz CPU/2GHz which does still over heat but runs stable for light gaming and work loads till I have time to throughly test mounting preasure and other paste later.

[MJ711]

I still do not understand how you even got your SD to got to 80°C.
Max temp i ever saw was 67°C...

[[?]legit]

MJ711 původně napsal:

I still do not understand how you even got your SD to got to 80°C.
Max temp i ever saw was 67°C...

That's not a big difference.

[Mahjik]

MJ711 původně napsal:

I still do not understand how you even got your SD to got to 80°C.
Max temp i ever saw was 67°C...

It will greatly depend on your games, settings and ambient temperatures. There is a lot of variation out there. I would wager those that play "on power" likely don't spend as much time reducing settings and such as they aren't trying to maximize their playtime. As such, they will typically run hotter.

[☥ 𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦 ☥]

why would u ever put / re put thermal paste to a GAMING PHONE that steam DECK is :)))))

[Waldherz]

☠⍖⛧ původně napsal:

why would u ever put / re put thermal paste to a GAMING PHONE that steam DECK is :)))))

Your post history is very interesting.
No need to answer your question.

[☥ 𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦 ☥]

Waldherz彡 původně napsal:

☠⍖⛧ původně napsal:

why would u ever put / re put thermal paste to a GAMING PHONE that steam DECK is :)))))

Your post history is very interesting.
No need to answer your question.

Cose you are not capable of answering 😂.
Also this Steam PsP wannabee barely plays CSGO at 60 fps 😂😂 if i wanted something at this price doing 60 fps i rather have a console.
Source video?

Anomaly unboxing it. ( Youtube it ).

Also can u even change the batery in this ? And at what store you can find a spare one ? In case it swallows up. Also home this one not explodes , "cough" samsung "chough"

[Boblin the Goblin]

☠⍖⛧ původně napsal:

Waldherz彡 původně napsal:

Your post history is very interesting.
No need to answer your question.

Cose you are not capable of answering 😂.
Also this Steam PsP wannabee barely plays CSGO at 60 fps 😂😂 if i wanted something at this price doing 60 fps i rather have a console.
Source video?

Anomaly unboxing it. ( Youtube it ).

Also can u even change the batery in this ? And at what store you can find a spare one ? In case it swallows up. Also home this one not explodes , "cough" samsung "chough"

What are you talking about?