steam deck battery replacement for end user ??

[posyko]

thats a big point for me that i can change the battery when the life of it goes down

[Mikoto]

Should be able too as it is easy to open. I would assume you would just need to find a compatible battery to replace the internal one with.

[posyko]

hope they sell them :)

[Haruspex]

Valve themselves selling replacement parts would be amazing, but if not I expect things like the battery will consist or ordinary off-the-shelf stuff. Shouldn't be hard to get elsewhere.

[posyko]

just hope they dont clue the batt inside

[Haruspex]

Glue... the enemy of right-to-repair advocates everywhere. Based on Valves previous hardware efforts with the Steam Controller and Valve Index, I don't think we have anything to worry about there.

[alteredStateOfTheEast()]

They already show that you can easily open the back and take it out. I am not worried about battery replacements as I have seen much more rare items have 3rd parties selling batteries.
I wouldn't be surprised if we actually got options like Panasonic or Samsung batteries from 3rd party options.
I would say this isn't going to be an issue. I am more worried about screen, thumb sticks, triggers and button replacements. I am not familiar with hardware components to that level, since I only ever had experience with batteries.

[retrogunner]

I've not seen a video of the Deck's back removal. I agree about having user available & replaceable batteries. Doing so is the "right thing to do" and positive/proactive business proposition.

Here's some of my thoughts on it (some are duplicate agreement with those above)

* Folks are finally trying to get back their right-to-repair.
* There will be repair & mod service industry created around the Steam Deck. It's better to make the basic component replacement easy for services & everyone in general (with at least known skills).
(I don't mind a slightly thicker Steam Deck if it means I can fully service it.)
* It makes for happy & loyal customers - especially if their service bill is lower.

Valves margins are slim. Having a serviceable device will :
* increase its time in the market
* increase availability of units by reducing those needing replacement units
* strengthen its market toe-hold (Valve has brand loyalists unless treated poorly)
* set a precedent for those manufacturers who want to compete it the vertical gamer space.

My nVidia Shield K1 Tablet is a prime example (not that tablet battery replacement is easy for the average consumer.)

The Shield K1 has an ID chip in its battery. You cannot use just any LiPo to replace it. You either had to:
1. Find a damaged K1 you could salvage the battery from.
OR
2. get an aftermarket battery, carefully de-solder the ID chip from your battery and re-solder it in between the battery and K1 leads.

I really enjoyed gaming on my K1. I'd hook up a controller and great. When traveling not having my Shield TV, no problem. Plug into HDMI, good to go. In fact, there's some high-end Android games that only plays on the K1 and not my Shield TV.

But, that doesn't matter as replacement batteries were not readily available. I still have my K1, but it's collecting dust until I can hack on it to deal with the battery. Sigh.

Valve, learn from nVidia's poor vision. Make sure anything with consumable parts (like Batteries.) are available and be replaced.

Thanks in advance. Cheers. retro.

[posyko]

Originally posted by retrogunner:

I've not seen a video of the Deck's back removal. I agree about having user available & replaceable batteries. Doing so is the "right thing to do" and positive/proactive business proposition.

Here's some of my thoughts on it (some are duplicate agreement with those above)

* Folks are finally trying to get back their right-to-repair.
* There will be repair & mod service industry created around the Steam Deck. It's better to make the basic component replacement easy for services & everyone in general (with at least known skills).
(I don't mind a slightly thicker Steam Deck if it means I can fully service it.)
* It makes for happy & loyal customers - especially if their service bill is lower.

Valves margins are slim. Having a serviceable device will :
* increase its time in the market
* increase availability of units by reducing those needing replacement units
* strengthen its market toe-hold (Valve has brand loyalists unless treated poorly)
* set a precedent for those manufacturers who want to compete it the vertical gamer space.

My nVidia Shield K1 Tablet is a prime example (not that tablet battery replacement is easy for the average consumer.)

The Shield K1 has an ID chip in its battery. You cannot use just any LiPo to replace it. You either had to:
1. Find a damaged K1 you could salvage the battery from.
OR
2. get an aftermarket battery, carefully de-solder the ID chip from your battery and re-solder it in between the battery and K1 leads.

I really enjoyed gaming on my K1. I'd hook up a controller and great. When traveling not having my Shield TV, no problem. Plug into HDMI, good to go. In fact, there's some high-end Android games that only plays on the K1 and not my Shield TV.

But, that doesn't matter as replacement batteries were not readily available. I still have my K1, but it's collecting dust until I can hack on it to deal with the battery. Sigh.

Valve, learn from nVidia's poor vision. Make sure anything with consumable parts (like Batteries.) are available and be replaced.

Thanks in advance. Cheers. retro.

like you say if the batt will be half dead in one year and no god fix for change battery it will be no buy for me i will not sitt plugged in the wall whit this thing

[Nemesis]

The interesting question will be if we get any OEM parts... Sticks, buttons, battery etc. are all disposable in my opinion and if valve doesnt produce OEM parts we would have to rely on warranty or chinese clone parts.

[posyko]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

The interesting question will be if we get any OEM parts... Sticks, buttons, battery etc. are all disposable in my opinion and if valve doesnt produce OEM parts we would have to rely on warranty or chinese clone parts.

true i shuld relly want real parts not copy

[@R+5]

Originally posted by retrogunner:

I've not seen a video of the Deck's back removal.

we wont see one until they are ready to sell them. the current version of the steam deck could be still described as "beta": they are still considering changing a few things, maybe improve and fix unexpected issues.

anyway, the deck only uses screws, and even if is "not supported" to install or change the nvme, we will be able to even with the basic version.

i think also another thing that changes with the basic version of the deck that is only mentioned in linux tech tips is that the quality of the glass of the screen seems to change between the basic version and the most expensive one (anti-glare glass is more expensive, so it makes sense)