Sim Card Slot?

[Mickey Havoc]

Hello,
Does anyone know if the Steam Deck will have a sim card slot? Virtual sim card?

[Hatchetforce]

引用自 Mickey Havoc：

I'll just say this. "Company X should do X" is simply called consumer feedback. It is up to the company in question to make the choice on whether or not the suggestions make sense from a business point of view. How outlandish is it to ask for a 5G Steam Deck for example? Asking for one that flies on the other hand, is just childish. That would be like asking for your pocket sized cell phone to double as a car. Just silly.

If you want to post your suggestions publicly and expect them to be taken seriously then they should be backed up with something that resembles feasibility instead of wild flights of fancy. Otherwise the poking you get is the poking you deserve. Don't stick it out there if you are concerned about getting it whacked off.

[FatStupidAmericant]

Linux should support it I believe, the actual thingie to put it on the deck itself would not cost too much. However as a mobile device it has tight, and limited space so adding things is a real pick and choose thing.

The Deck supports 5g, just not sim cards. There are sim card readers that are both USB and phone replacement parts.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=sim+card+reader+sim&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-34000-13078-0&mkcid=2&keyword=sim+card+reader+sim&crlp=_&MT_ID=&geo_id=&rlsatarget=kwd-76897228280450%3Aloc-190&adpos=&device=c&mktype=&loc=104687&poi=&abcId=&cmpgn=329854568&sitelnk=&adgroupid=1230353664362901&network=s&matchtype=e&msclkid=c64b35300f69127c4ac055cde6a5eedd&ul_noapp=true

On the deck it wouldn't take too much space to add to the bottom and shouldn't cost too much, but again, have to pick and choose. Every little new thing adds that much more cost and that much more than can go wrong. They would have to purchase sim card reader assemblies and connect them somewhere on the mainboard, imho its a niche feature. It's cool, but I wouldn't have put it in if I designed the Deck. It's only really a thing that phones use and need, and business laptops.

[FatStupidAmericant]

If Steam were to make a Deck 2 in the future I'd say they should keep the cost but aside from a new APU

1. Increase internal storage space
2. 2 USB C slots
3. 2 SD card slots
4. Slightly bigger screen, maybe 1080p but at that size 800p is honestly fine

I feel like putting a USB c on the bottom would be too iffy and liable for getting sued by Nintendo, because Nin is VERY aggressive about their stuff.

[Hatchetforce]

引用自 Great moves：

Linux would support it natively, the actual thingie to put it on the deck itself would cost pennies in theory. However it has limited space so adding things is a real pick and choose thing.

The Deck supports 5g, just not sim cards. There are sim card readers that are both USB and phone parts.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=sim+card+reader+sim&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-34000-13078-0&mkcid=2&keyword=sim+card+reader+sim&crlp=_&MT_ID=&geo_id=&rlsatarget=kwd-76897228280450%3Aloc-190&adpos=&device=c&mktype=&loc=104687&poi=&abcId=&cmpgn=329854568&sitelnk=&adgroupid=1230353664362901&network=s&matchtype=e&msclkid=c64b35300f69127c4ac055cde6a5eedd&ul_noapp=true

On the deck it wouldn't take too much space to add to the bottom and shouldn't cost too much, but again, have to pick and choose. Every little new thing adds that much more cost and that much more than can go wrong.

Regardless of what you may think, I am not trying to be a jerk about this. I am simply saying...we don't know. When you state that it shouldn't cost too much the truth is...you don't know. An item off of ebay hardly equates to altering a design, adjusting production and engineering this to function. It is an entirely different matter.

Every little new thing adds that much more cost and that much more than can go wrong.

Absolutely 1000% bazillion percent correct.

And such research and analysis as to what it adds and where and when that breaks the price point is something to which none of us has access. Maybe it is pennies. And maybe it isn't. My point all along is we do not know and to state it would be inconsequential for valve is armchair quarterbacking at its best.

[Mickey Havoc]

haha my bad, I forgot how toxic steam forum are. That's on me

[Hatchetforce]

引用自 Mickey Havoc：

haha my bad, I forgot how toxic steam forum are. That's on me

Definition of toxic (Entry 1 of 3)
1: containing or being poisonous material especially when capable of causing death or serious debilitation
toxic waste
a toxic radioactive gas
an insecticide highly toxic to birds
2: exhibiting symptoms of infection or toxicosis
the patient became toxic two days later
3: extremely harsh, malicious, or harmful
toxic sarcasm
4: relating to or being an asset that has lost so much value that it cannot be sold on the market

If you are going to make a wild proposal and are then asked to back that up with something other than a dream...that isn't someone being toxic. And to be clear, there was nothing wrong with your opening comment. Your question, completely valid.

[Enkountor]

So since this is going to have a full OS and USB compatibility, you can probably just get a SIM adapter for USB and use that. I was wondering this question myself as it would have made more sense to have some sort of cell network built in. Not much more cost to add the antennas for it... And would have added ability to play online from anywhere. I assume it requires more backend work for the network though

[Enkountor]

引用自 Great moves：

If Steam were to make a Deck 2 in the future I'd say they should keep the cost but aside from a new APU

1. Increase internal storage space
2. 2 USB C slots
3. 2 SD card slots
4. Slightly bigger screen, maybe 1080p but at that size 800p is honestly fine

I feel like putting a USB c on the bottom would be too iffy and liable for getting sued by Nintendo, because Nin is VERY aggressive about their stuff.

I agree, I was weary about the screen but it makes sense. Most won't have an issue with the resolution at the screen size it is at, and 1080 would be significantly harder to run some of the more AAA titles they are aiming to handle. There were a lot of trade-off's in development and I think they picked a decent path for a starting device to market.

[Silence]

引用自 Great moves：

2. 2 USB C slots

I hope the Final version will get 2 USB-C Ports one on the top and one at the bottom.

引用自 Great moves：

I feel like putting a USB c on the bottom would be too iffy and liable for getting sued by Nintendo, because Nin is VERY aggressive about their stuff.

It is not there Stuff! They did not Invented that format or anything like that. There where a huge amount of devices befor the switch that looked like that.

[Haruspex]

It won't but maybe some future revision will, if there's demand for it.
Right now Valve's goal seems to be to target a low enough price point at high enough specs to maximize demand and put a Steam Deck in as many hands as possible. Adding 4G or 5G would have increased the price above that sweet spot of $399, and adding it as an optional SKU separate from the "base" model would increase manufacturing requirements beyond what they're set up for at the moment.

If the Steam Deck sells well, Valve will probably follow up with a new model. If folks who want a sim slot make sure Valve knows this is in demand, there's a good chance that new model will include it.

[SockDog]

Have I missed something here? How does inserting a sim into Steam Deck (looking at the posted ebay link for a sim connector) make it able to connect to cellular services? I'm under the impression there are dedicated chips, antenna design, shielding etc etc that factor into such capabilities.

That aside, I imagine, as stated elsewhere in this thread, that tethering to the phone stuffed in your pocket was considered a good payoff on the additional cost this would add.

[Andrius227]

Just use your phone or buy something like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/E5576-320-Portable-Networks-Genuine-Warranty/dp/B081S5KRZ7

(linked a random one, dont know if it's any good)

[Hatchetforce]

Just remember. Do your own research and be wary of people that pretend to know what Valve is thinking or why they decided to do something when that something isn't a matter Valve have discussed. Surmising is one thing but claiming knowledge of matters such as price points, profit margins, why they made certain choices, or other flights of fancy is guesswork without evidence. Such persons will tell you how easy Valve could have done this or that. Just realize that such visions often come from people with no background in design, engineering, production or anything close to what Valve has had to engender in order to produce the Deck.

[Briggs]

引用自 Hatchetforce：

Just remember. Do your own research and be wary of people that pretend to know what Valve is thinking or why they decided to do something when that something isn't a matter Valve have discussed. Surmising is one thing but claiming knowledge of matters such as price points, profit margins, why they made certain choices, or other flights of fancy is guesswork without evidence. Such persons will tell you how easy Valve could have done this or that. Just realize that such visions often come from people with no background in design, engineering, production or anything close to what Valve has had to engender in order to produce the Deck.

You could have just linked to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

[Hatchetforce]

引用自 Briggs：

引用自 Hatchetforce：

Just remember. Do your own research and be wary of people that pretend to know what Valve is thinking or why they decided to do something when that something isn't a matter Valve have discussed. Surmising is one thing but claiming knowledge of matters such as price points, profit margins, why they made certain choices, or other flights of fancy is guesswork without evidence. Such persons will tell you how easy Valve could have done this or that. Just realize that such visions often come from people with no background in design, engineering, production or anything close to what Valve has had to engender in order to produce the Deck.

You could have just linked to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Thanks. I actually referenced Dunning Kruger in a now mod deleted post. So I chose to write as I did.