tips for big boss fights

[arnons]

on quest 4 you need to do a boss rush
but on the first one im already doing 15 min for it to kill and dying myself sevral times
i attack all the weakspots when they apear not alot and it stil takes so long
im i doing something wrong?
and how are you suposed to get the s rank on time under 3 min?
and i quit the mision when i saw that the second boss was also gona take that long

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Part of it is just going to be upgrading your parts and such, but yeah, large bosses are a ♥♥♥♥♥ because of their parts getting destroyed and them taking less damage for it.

[arnons]

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

Part of it is just going to be upgrading your parts and such, but yeah, large bosses are a ♥♥♥♥♥ because of their parts getting destroyed and them taking less damage for it.

how to you upgrade your parts?
is that something you need to unlock first?

[Kinkoz Sagan]

Originally posted by arnons:

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

Part of it is just going to be upgrading your parts and such, but yeah, large bosses are a ♥♥♥♥♥ because of their parts getting destroyed and them taking less damage for it.

how to you upgrade your parts?
is that something you need to unlock first?

Play the game on a lower difficulty up to Chapter 3. For some reason, they lock being able to actually upgrade your parts through Synthesis behind that.

You actually have to progress further and further into the game to unlock more upgrade options/raise your upgrade cap as well. It's kinda dookie.

[Gralzeim]

Rifles or Long Rifles that can fire beams (when you hold down the trigger) can help with giant bosses, since the beam will pierce through their body to hit the targeted weak point and any on the way there. So can AoE weapons and missile launchers.

And don't forget you can jump/fly up to hit weak points that aren't close to the ground with close combat attacks.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by arnons:

how to you upgrade your parts?
is that something you need to unlock first?

Chapter 3 unlocks 合成, which allows you to upgrade parts. Until then you just need to swap out parts you pick up as you go.

Originally posted by Kinkoz Sagan:

You actually have to progress further and further into the game to unlock more upgrade options/raise your upgrade cap as well. It's kinda dookie.

To be fair, considering since both Breakers 3 and 4 are putting more of an emphasis on letting you build whatever you want without regards for stat strength being tied to parts like in 2 there's less "reward" for progressing the story than there would be otherwise, it's a pretty rational thing to do. Otherwise you'd have people complaining that there's no point to playing the story and/or that it's too easy because you can just max out with Level 50 parts right away and curb stomp everything.

[Kinkoz Sagan]

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

To be fair, considering since both Breakers 3 and 4 are putting more of an emphasis on letting you build whatever you want without regards for stat strength being tied to parts like in 2 there's less "reward" for progressing the story than there would be otherwise, it's a pretty rational thing to do. Otherwise you'd have people complaining that there's no point to playing the story and/or that it's too easy because you can just max out with Level 50 parts right away and curb stomp everything.

True, but, at least from what I can recall from GB3, the stat increases from everything you could parts merge in the early stages of even Hardcore was minimal enough that you had to get further into the game and unlock Extreme and Newtype to really start getting parts with significant upgrades. Which, to me at least, seems like an issue with the way they handled progression and difficulty balancing in GB4, as all of that is very easily circumvented with just grinding once you actually unlock the ability to upgrade through Synthesis.

Like, playing at base Hardcore up to Chapter 3 shouldn't exactly feel like I'm playing on Extreme or Newtype with how health spongy enemies can be. I recall being able to comfortably play on Hardcore while progressing through GB3 initially. Granted that's not even remotely a problem anymore since I was able to more or less start maxing out my build before even actually replaying through GB4 on Extreme OR Newtype, but still.

[lam.singsing]

spam nukes and 21tube missile like every other stages

[Shadowlet]

Just play through the story first.

[Shadowlet]

Originally posted by Kinkoz Sagan:

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

To be fair, considering since both Breakers 3 and 4 are putting more of an emphasis on letting you build whatever you want without regards for stat strength being tied to parts like in 2 there's less "reward" for progressing the story than there would be otherwise, it's a pretty rational thing to do. Otherwise you'd have people complaining that there's no point to playing the story and/or that it's too easy because you can just max out with Level 50 parts right away and curb stomp everything.

True, but, at least from what I can recall from GB3, the stat increases from everything you could parts merge in the early stages of even Hardcore was minimal enough that you had to get further into the game and unlock Extreme and Newtype to really start getting parts with significant upgrades. Which, to me at least, seems like an issue with the way they handled progression and difficulty balancing in GB4, as all of that is very easily circumvented with just grinding once you actually unlock the ability to upgrade through Synthesis.

Like, playing at base Hardcore up to Chapter 3 shouldn't exactly feel like I'm playing on Extreme or Newtype with how health spongy enemies can be. I recall being able to comfortably play on Hardcore while progressing through GB3 initially. Granted that's not even remotely a problem anymore since I was able to more or less start maxing out my build before even actually replaying through GB4 on Extreme OR Newtype, but still.

I'll say, Newtype was very shortlived for me. Around 10 hours to fully optimize my build, complete Survival and Bounty Hunter (BH I joined someone for), and run through Quests on that difficulty.

Largely due to good cartridges being easy to drop (at least for me), including evolve & upgrade materials as well as money.

More importantly gear and weapons being purely cosmetic and the fact you can just buy pretty much any Gunpla kit from the shop.

[Altair1243]

Originally posted by Kinkoz Sagan:

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

To be fair, considering since both Breakers 3 and 4 are putting more of an emphasis on letting you build whatever you want without regards for stat strength being tied to parts like in 2 there's less "reward" for progressing the story than there would be otherwise, it's a pretty rational thing to do. Otherwise you'd have people complaining that there's no point to playing the story and/or that it's too easy because you can just max out with Level 50 parts right away and curb stomp everything.

True, but, at least from what I can recall from GB3, the stat increases from everything you could parts merge in the early stages of even Hardcore was minimal enough that you had to get further into the game and unlock Extreme and Newtype to really start getting parts with significant upgrades. Which, to me at least, seems like an issue with the way they handled progression and difficulty balancing in GB4, as all of that is very easily circumvented with just grinding once you actually unlock the ability to upgrade through Synthesis.

Like, playing at base Hardcore up to Chapter 3 shouldn't exactly feel like I'm playing on Extreme or Newtype with how health spongy enemies can be. I recall being able to comfortably play on Hardcore while progressing through GB3 initially. Granted that's not even remotely a problem anymore since I was able to more or less start maxing out my build before even actually replaying through GB4 on Extreme OR Newtype, but still.

The TLDR is that it's absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that you can't upgrade parts until chapter 3. Easily the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ part of this game, honestly, but still a major issue. Also, bosses becoming partially immune to damage on certain zones combined with lock-on being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ against big enemies is the dumbest series of decisions I've ever seen.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by Kinkoz Sagan:

as all of that is very easily circumvented with just grinding once you actually unlock the ability to upgrade through Synthesis.

That's the thing though, the level cap exists to stop that from happening - you can't go above Level 13 in Chapter 3, for instance.

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

Largely due to good cartridges being easy to drop (at least for me)

That's also a big part of it I think, and a reason I despise "pure" gacha systems like the Ability Cartridges - it's just luck and no skill or strategy or thinking involved, and it only shortens a game's life instead of extending it. I'm really hoping we get a mod that fixes Ability Cartridge the way mods fixed Kaii Rensei in Monster Hunter Rise.