Age of Wonders 4

Age of Wonders 4

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Багряный May 4, 2023 @ 6:05am
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Why do Elves look like old people?
I only play as Elves and I love it when they look beautiful and young. But when I am offered to hire heroes, I feel uncomfortable. Since almost all of them look like human elders, and not like a race of eternally young.

Has anyone else noticed this nasty design of gray hair and wrinkles?

I suspect that one of the modders will take care of this problem and rejuvenate the design of the elves and give it beauty. But I am saddened by the fact that the developers did not initially think through this important nuance and added very few beautiful face models.
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restarter May 4, 2023 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by Nasarog:
Originally posted by restarter:
Well its all downhill from 42 so you got a good 7 years. Just remember when you start talking to younger people they will see you as old. You WILL NOT see yourself that way until you look into the mirror. Its weird. Of course genetics plays a role, maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones who retains their youthful appearance for another decade. For me I swear it happened overnight. Its like once I was being carded, talking to young ladies, and then i wasn't.
Bags and hooded eyes, wrinkles, grey and thinning hair, women don't even notice me. Now I just wallow in self pity, cry into my beer every night, and long for "the good ol days" when I was a young man with no direction and all the time in the world. My creaking joints and fuzzy eyesight carry me through another night only to be one day older.
Nah I'm just kidding , it's not that bad, especially when you don't give a ♥♥♥♥ anymore. That is a kind of freedom you can't put a price on, or maybe that price is your youth. Anyway....my bowel movement is kicking in so I bid this thread, Adieu

I disagree about the 42 part... I'd say it's more related to your general health and state of mind.
what does state of mind mean? what you tell yourself? I agree to a point. However, you rarely see people in their 40's in professional sports. There's a reason for that. 42 is generally when people start to decline. Doesnt mean you can't feel great and be sharp for decades. it jsut means you will never be as able as you were in your 20;s with the same amount of effort.
Багряный May 5, 2023 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by sweetchilliheat:
The characters in Planetfall were fugly so I'm not surprised its the same here. It's become kinda socially unacceptable to have conventionally attractive characters these days. Meanwhile I can't help but notice all the female units in this game are ranged or support units so if they were going for 'woke' points they kinda missed the mark.
In fact, very few developers go down this path, and basically choosing this path, they suffer losses and lose the audience. Crusader Kings III has an excellent editor in which you can make very beautiful characters. Larian Studios made one of the best character editors in Baldur's Gate 3, there are simply unrealistic beautiful faces. There is a trend towards ugliness, but it is not so large-scale and those who follow it suffer huge losses.

Paradox has always been an adequate developer, I think they will add more features to the character editor.

By the way, I don't remember ugly characters in Planetfall. It's just that the game itself is very boring and not interesting.

But in this part of the wonder, the character editor is too small and on auto-creation it creates very poor quality characters that don't fit the canonical aesthetic, that's too bad.
DDkiki May 5, 2023 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by sweetchilliheat:
The characters in Planetfall were fugly so I'm not surprised its the same here. It's become kinda socially unacceptable to have conventionally attractive characters these days. Meanwhile I can't help but notice all the female units in this game are ranged or support units so if they were going for 'woke' points they kinda missed the mark.

I can't play PF without mod that adds new faces that look like actual humans tbf.
Dwarfurious May 5, 2023 @ 6:06am 
Originally posted by Veresh1989:
Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Well, that's because in fantasy settings, the typical archetype for elves is that they are impossibly beautiful and move with super human grace. Their craftsmanship, music, literature and even their very cuisine is all elevated to absolute perfection.
:steamthumbsup:

This is very good wording. Most fans choose elves as an opportunity to inspire beauty and perfection. And when a developer makes strange and ugly aliens out of elves, such creations rarely succeed.
aww your widdle mary sue race not the 100% flawless objects of perfection? Not enough that they basically dominate the entire AoW narrative they also have to look HOT doing it to please an elf fan, lol. Its a welcome and refreshing change

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:
from lore: incest and inbreeding
This guy gets it. Me thinks the elves are so vain and merely try to spread rumors of their greatness.
Side Note? I love the Goblin faces, some proper grots and gitz.
Багряный May 5, 2023 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by Dwarfurious:
Originally posted by Veresh1989:
:steamthumbsup:

This is very good wording. Most fans choose elves as an opportunity to inspire beauty and perfection. And when a developer makes strange and ugly aliens out of elves, such creations rarely succeed.
aww your widdle mary sue race not the 100% flawless objects of perfection? Not enough that they basically dominate the entire AoW narrative they also have to look HOT doing it to please an elf fan, lol. Its a welcome and refreshing change

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:
from lore: incest and inbreeding
This guy gets it. Me thinks the elves are so vain and merely try to spread rumors of their greatness.
Side Note? I love the Goblin faces, some proper grots and gitz.
You can enjoy your bearded gnomes, I want to enjoy beautiful elves, it is logical and fair.
DDkiki May 5, 2023 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by Veresh1989:
Originally posted by Dwarfurious:
aww your widdle mary sue race not the 100% flawless objects of perfection? Not enough that they basically dominate the entire AoW narrative they also have to look HOT doing it to please an elf fan, lol. Its a welcome and refreshing change


This guy gets it. Me thinks the elves are so vain and merely try to spread rumors of their greatness.
Side Note? I love the Goblin faces, some proper grots and gitz.
You can enjoy your bearded gnomes, I want to enjoy beautiful elves, it is logical and fair.

Actually as a dwarf enjoyer... game done them very dirty too...literally none of male dwarf tome units have a beard, its disgusting.

So im fully with you here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDT3_jVYAkI
GrandMajora May 5, 2023 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Dwarfurious:
aww your widdle mary sue race not the 100% flawless objects of perfection? Not enough that they basically dominate the entire AoW narrative they also have to look HOT doing it to please an elf fan, lol. Its a welcome and refreshing change

Dude, elves being the epitome of western beauty standards is one of the most iconic things about them, right alongside having pointy ears.

Stripping elves of their beauty is like stripping dwarves of their beards and drinking habits. It is unnatural, and feels wrong!
Syn May 5, 2023 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by sweetchilliheat:
The characters in Planetfall were fugly so I'm not surprised its the same here. It's become kinda socially unacceptable to have conventionally attractive characters these days. Meanwhile I can't help but notice all the female units in this game are ranged or support units so if they were going for 'woke' points they kinda missed the mark.

Never played Morrowind or Oblivion have you?
I love how certain types always just assume that ugly characters are the result of some woke conspiracy and not just bad design.
Syn May 5, 2023 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by Dwarfurious:
aww your widdle mary sue race not the 100% flawless objects of perfection? Not enough that they basically dominate the entire AoW narrative they also have to look HOT doing it to please an elf fan, lol. Its a welcome and refreshing change

Dude, elves being the epitome of western beauty standards is one of the most iconic things about them, right alongside having pointy ears.

Stripping elves of their beauty is like stripping dwarves of their beards and drinking habits. It is unnatural, and feels wrong!

Where were all of you when Divinity Original Sin II turned elves into horrific tree-mutants?
Last edited by Syn; May 5, 2023 @ 6:59am
jonoliveira12 May 5, 2023 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by DDkiki:
Originally posted by Veresh1989:
You can enjoy your bearded gnomes, I want to enjoy beautiful elves, it is logical and fair.

Actually as a dwarf enjoyer... game done them very dirty too...literally none of male dwarf tome units have a beard, its disgusting.

So im fully with you here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDT3_jVYAkI
Beardless Dwarfs?
IT IS AN INSULT! THEY HAVE WRONGED US!

GRUDGES MUST BE SETTLED!
jonoliveira12 May 5, 2023 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by Dwarfurious:
aww your widdle mary sue race not the 100% flawless objects of perfection? Not enough that they basically dominate the entire AoW narrative they also have to look HOT doing it to please an elf fan, lol. Its a welcome and refreshing change

Dude, elves being the epitome of western beauty standards is one of the most iconic things about them, right alongside having pointy ears.

Stripping elves of their beauty is like stripping dwarves of their beards and drinking habits. It is unnatural, and feels wrong!
I agree. Ever since Tolkien, Elves became inseperable from their legendary beauty and eternal youth.
They are supposed to the perfect people, afterall.
Syn May 5, 2023 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Dude, elves being the epitome of western beauty standards is one of the most iconic things about them, right alongside having pointy ears.

Stripping elves of their beauty is like stripping dwarves of their beards and drinking habits. It is unnatural, and feels wrong!
I agree. Ever since Tolkien, Elves became inseperable from their legendary beauty and eternal youth.
They are supposed to the perfect people, afterall.

In theory, yes.
In practice elves are often used to boost human ego or make humans look better by being the fallen species or the stooges or dying off.

See: Warcraft, Dragon Age, Warhammer/40k, etc etc
Багряный May 5, 2023 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by Syn:
Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Dude, elves being the epitome of western beauty standards is one of the most iconic things about them, right alongside having pointy ears.

Stripping elves of their beauty is like stripping dwarves of their beards and drinking habits. It is unnatural, and feels wrong!

Where were all of you when Divinity Original Sin II turned elves into horrific tree-mutants?
They fixed their mistake in game 3
DDkiki May 5, 2023 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
Originally posted by DDkiki:

Actually as a dwarf enjoyer... game done them very dirty too...literally none of male dwarf tome units have a beard, its disgusting.

So im fully with you here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDT3_jVYAkI
Beardless Dwarfs?
IT IS AN INSULT! THEY HAVE WRONGED US!

GRUDGES MUST BE SETTLED!

Yep, check encyclopedia, houndmaster, warbreed, all order units, glade runner...all beardless dwarfs.
jonoliveira12 May 5, 2023 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by Syn:
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
I agree. Ever since Tolkien, Elves became inseperable from their legendary beauty and eternal youth.
They are supposed to the perfect people, afterall.

In theory, yes.
In practice elves are often used to boost human ego or make humans look better by being the fallen species or the stooges or dying off.

See: Warcraft, Dragon Age, Warhammer/40k, etc etc
Humans are just superior, that will always be true.
Even Khorne prefers Humans to other races. We are a wonderful kind, blessed and glorious.
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Date Posted: May 4, 2023 @ 6:05am
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