AOW4 vs. Master of Magic

[Big Chewy™]

I have not read a single thread comparing AOW4 to Master of Magic. These games are nearly identical.

[Jin]

AoW4 > MoM in every way, that's why.

MoM has less factions, less customization, less empire strategy, less spells, less unit variety, worse AI, much worse graphics, more bugs, no multiplayer, no controller support.

Can I stop or do you want me to keep pounding MoM?

The same reason people don't compare cars from 1930 to cars from 2020. It's non-sense.

[Mindmaker]

Originally posted by Big Chewy™:

I have not read a single thread comparing AOW4 to Master of Magic. These games are nearly identical.

[Overlord Byron]

AoW was clearly inspired by MoM. There's a lot of differences at this point, though. 30 years will do that.

[Syrris]

Master of Magic (the original) came out in the early 90s and essentially became the genre-founder of fantasy 4X. Age of Wonders is one of several series that were directly inspired by it. They're far from identical (especially ~30 years on), though.

[ayrtep]

What about fallen enchantress legendary heroes, one of my favourite games despite being 10 years old and still full of bugs

https://store.steampowered.com/app/228260/Fallen_Enchantress_Legendary_Heroes/

[bacooda2]

Originally posted by Jin:

AoW4 > MoM in every way, that's why.

MoM has less factions, less customization, less empire strategy, less spells, less unit variety, worse AI, much worse graphics, more bugs, no multiplayer, no controller support.

Can I stop or do you want me to keep pounding MoM?

The same reason people don't compare cars from 1930 to cars from 2020. It's non-sense.

Thread could have ended here. Personally I think OP is just trolling to pass time until the game unlocks. And fair play to them if that's what was intended :D

[Big Chewy™]

Originally posted by bacooda2:

Originally posted by Jin:

AoW4 > MoM in every way, that's why.

MoM has less factions, less customization, less empire strategy, less spells, less unit variety, worse AI, much worse graphics, more bugs, no multiplayer, no controller support.

Can I stop or do you want me to keep pounding MoM?

The same reason people don't compare cars from 1930 to cars from 2020. It's non-sense.

Thread could have ended here. Personally I think OP is just trolling to pass time until the game unlocks. And fair play to them if that's what was intended :D

I do not think you understand the concept of trolling. Again, my comment was simply there should be more comparisons of AOW4 and Master of Magic. Aside: you comment is closer to a troll. Who takes a simple question and tries to make it controversial? Sorry, but a troll does that.

[Syrris]

It's a fair question because MuHa's remake of MoM came out recently. It's still a "gee, he looks a lot like his great-grandfather" comparison though.

[Saturdays]

I think I will like both games. Heck I still play the OG MoM and MoO...

[Big Chewy™]

Originally posted by Syrris:

It's a fair question because MuHa's remake of MoM came out recently. It's still a "gee, he looks a lot like his great-grandfather" comparison though.

yep, the remake of Master of Magic was released on 12/13/2022

[kmech]

Originally posted by ayrtep:

What about fallen enchantress legendary heroes, one of my favourite games despite being 10 years old and still full of bugs

https://store.steampowered.com/app/228260/Fallen_Enchantress_Legendary_Heroes/

Playing that right now waiting for AoW4, been ages since I fired this one up...

[Xalderin]

Originally posted by Big Chewy™:

I have not read a single thread comparing AOW4 to Master of Magic. These games are nearly identical.

Currently, with what we've seen on AoW4... I'd have to say AoW4 is going to be much better. Or in other terms, Superior. I have MoM, and it's not really as good as I had hoped it would be. Especially with how limited it feels when it comes to making your "faction." The Modding Community also seems a little dead. Which I'm hoping doesn't happen to AoW4.

[Solmyr]

Master of Magic is the granddaddy of "fantasy Civilization" type games and was amazing in the 1990s (and was one of my most played games at that time). The recent remake pretty much copied that without adding any new features, so the age really shows today.

[archonsod]

Originally posted by Syrris:

Master of Magic (the original) came out in the early 90s and essentially became the genre-founder of fantasy 4X.

D&D Fantasy Empires came out the year before, Heroes of Might and Magic the year after, and Lords of Magic the year after that. It was one of several rather than the founder as such (in fact in that regard you'd probably need to go back about five years to King's Bounty).

Generally the comparison isn't particularly apt because AoW lay far more on the King's Bounty family tree than it did Master of Magic, although in the intervening years there's been something of a drift towards the more traditional 4X style of MoM. In terms of comparing them (going of course on the previous AoW + Planetfall) they're not all that similar beyond the borrowing of a cod-Tolkien style fantasy premise. Master of Magic was, and as of it's remake still is, much more rooted in a Civ style 4X game, AoW still contains it's King's Bounty DNA even if it's borrowed Civ's coat. They both fit in the turn based strategy genre, but they're looking at different sides of that genre. Master of Magic is what would have happened if Sid Meier read Lord of the Rings when he was coding Civ; Age of Wonders is what you'd get if Sid spent his youth playing the Magic Realm boardgame rather than Civilization.

[Syrris]

Originally posted by Solmyr:

Master of Magic is the granddaddy of "fantasy Civilization" type games and was amazing in the 1990s (and was one of my most played games at that time). The recent remake pretty much copied that without adding any new features, so the age really shows today.

I've played the remake a bit in the last few months, and MoM's design holds up surprisingly well for being 30 years old (and having only a tiny budget). Being purely single player also lets it get away with a wonderfully wild ride of imbalance that modern multiplayer games just can't.