Age of Wonders 4

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Sotnik Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:28am
Giant heroes
Why are heroes so gigantic? Are not they supposed to be of the same race at least when they are Champions? Looks very weird.
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Lordofriva Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:04am 
I really did not see it until you mentioned the issue, indeed the Hero in the last stream is exceedingly huge.

Now we know that the hero can be customized, also in height, separately from the units so this might be what happened here but I would need to check the prior streams.
Last edited by Lordofriva; Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:04am
blackhand_lost Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:32am 
I did not notice, all unit models are kinda small and you will identify them by their banner in battle. Answering your question, probably the same reason as in Total War- to make them more visible and distinguishable from other troops
GrandMajora Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:47am 
You're not just imagining things, I've noticed it too. Heroes and leaders seemed to be almost twice the size as the rest of their respective races.

In one particular screen cap (which I can't find anymore, despite trying to look for it), there is what appears to be an elven hero, who is just looming over a batch of soldiers standing right next to them.

At first, I thought they were under the effects of Super Growth, but now I'm not so sure.
Jellal Fernandes Apr 21, 2023 @ 2:34pm 
'larger than life' artistic liberty vs realism? though perhaps they will add giant race as a starting hero.
Balekai Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:05pm 
It's likely an technical decision to make Leader's stand out compared to other unit types, by making their models a bit larger. Like the more important chess pieces being larger on a chess board.
mrkhubbard Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:49pm 
I actually kinda like it. They are chosen, elite, and have abilities that super exceed those they lead. Blessed by the gods to bring war to their enemies!
Overlord Byron Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by Balekai:
It's likely an technical decision to make Leader's stand out compared to other unit types, by making their models a bit larger. Like the more important chess pieces being larger on a chess board.

Right. Especially since the hero/leader will likely look a lot like units from a distance. You want them to be instantly recognizable.
GrandMajora Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by mrkhubbard:
I actually kinda like it. They are chosen, elite, and have abilities that super exceed those they lead. Blessed by the gods to bring war to their enemies!

They're not blessed by the gods, they ARE the gods. That's why they're called 'Godir' and why their goal is to ascend as members of the pantheon.

Before they were banished, some, if not all of the Wizard Kings were also likewise revered as deities. Both Yaka and Artica being examples which immediately come to mind.
mmszoli Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by mrkhubbard:
I actually kinda like it. They are chosen, elite, and have abilities that super exceed those they lead. Blessed by the gods to bring war to their enemies!

They're not blessed by the gods, they ARE the gods. That's why they're called 'Godir' and why their goal is to ascend as members of the pantheon.

Before they were banished, some, if not all of the Wizard Kings were also likewise revered as deities. Both Yaka and Artica being examples which immediately come to mind.
Are champions godir too?
GrandMajora Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by mmszoli:
Are champions godir too?

To be perfectly honest, I don't know. The lore about the current setting mentions "the return" of the Godir. But then again, the wizard kings weren't originally born super powerful wizards, as far as I'm aware.

It's possible that with their return and the resurgence of a new Age of Wonders, that other people may have found themselves endowed with amazing power as well.
mrkhubbard Apr 21, 2023 @ 9:16pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by mrkhubbard:
I actually kinda like it. They are chosen, elite, and have abilities that super exceed those they lead. Blessed by the gods to bring war to their enemies!

They're not blessed by the gods, they ARE the gods. That's why they're called 'Godir' and why their goal is to ascend as members of the pantheon.

Before they were banished, some, if not all of the Wizard Kings were also likewise revered as deities. Both Yaka and Artica being examples which immediately come to mind.

This discussion is about heroes not Godirs or faction leaders. Heroes are the generals or overlords who are the main extensions of the Godir’s power. You screw up the lore when you start calling the heroes the Godirs.
GrandMajora Apr 21, 2023 @ 10:10pm 
Originally posted by mrkhubbard:

This discussion is about heroes not Godirs or faction leaders. Heroes are the generals or overlords who are the main extensions of the Godir’s power. You screw up the lore when you start calling the heroes the Godirs.

Damn it, keeping them separate gets confusing. I use Heroes and Leaders interchangeably, because they are functionally the same thing. The only difference between the two is that 'Leaders' respawn after death, where as 'Heroes' don't.
Goblin Apr 21, 2023 @ 11:59pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by mrkhubbard:

This discussion is about heroes not Godirs or faction leaders. Heroes are the generals or overlords who are the main extensions of the Godir’s power. You screw up the lore when you start calling the heroes the Godirs.

Damn it, keeping them separate gets confusing. I use Heroes and Leaders interchangeably, because they are functionally the same thing. The only difference between the two is that 'Leaders' respawn after death, where as 'Heroes' don't.
The OP was too. He specifically mentioned champions.
Sotnik Apr 22, 2023 @ 2:28am 
I doubt Astral makes everyone big, and I doubt Champions are elected based on size, therefore any leader or hero being twice the size of an ordinary person is a perversion :).
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