base game and expansion and thats it ?

[naapsuland]

or would there be after more dlc s and updates, asking because if there is only Expansion pass , i wont buy it, but if they will add later more dlc and update it , i will buy it

[FlySC]

There is different dlcs listed in the expansion pass if you look at the store page

[phazonfreak]

Well, the expansion pass already includes two expansions and two dlcs. After that it is up to the popularity of the game whether there will be more expansion passes coming.

[GrandMajora]

If the developers were Paradox themselves, then I would not be surprised to see AoW 4 getting a continuous influx of DLC's and expansions for many years to come.

But, unfortunately, the developer is Triumph Studios, the same people who made AoW 3.

The same people who gave us a whopping 2 DLC expansions, and then promptly moved on to something else.

[Lamiosa]

It is a pass for 4 DLCs. So if the DLCs are more expensive than 10 € and you plan to get them all, you already have the price difference of 40€ to the standard edition just for the DLCs (example for price in my country).

[~ Fabulous ~]

Triumph will not spam you with dlc, and that is a good thing

[elitewolf]

Someone asked this on their discord channel right after the preorder announcement, and they said that it may only be the beginning with more things to come later, but no confirmations. Hours later another staff member said that it is too early to say anything. My opinion? They are definitely planning to keep on going with more DLC as long as the game and the DLCs sell well.

Thing is, if you take a look on the gameplay videos, review articles and dev diaries - you can see that this is the most mainstream AoW game to date, giving you lots of options to mix and match, the design was made for lots of customizability to attract a new playerbase (which is not a bad thing), but the way that the game is so open ended, gives me the impression that they wanna keep the support going with more content in form of DLC down the line. If you take a moment to read what each announced DLC adds, it's basically more and more tomes of magic, species and empire options (not exactly new mechanics or something with more depth).

However - and this is only speculation - i believe they are going to release the announced DLC during 2023 and perhaps early 2024 and then mid-2024 more DLC to be announced if things went well with their sales

[Anarchy Burger]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

If the developers were Paradox themselves, then I would not be surprised to see AoW 4 getting a continuous influx of DLC's and expansions for many years to come.

But, unfortunately, the developer is Triumph Studios, the same people who made AoW 3.

The same people who gave us a whopping 2 DLC expansions, and then promptly moved on to something else.

??? 2 expansions that added a ton to the game, plus many many patches

[Jack Greedy]

Its a Paradox game, expect tons of dlc. :(

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by Jack Greedy:

Its a Paradox game, expect tons of dlc. :(

It's a TRIUMPH game. Don't expect lots of DLC. What you see in the expansion pack is likely all we're going to get. TBH, that's slightly more than we got for AoW3 and AoW Planetfall. Some think this is a good thing and others think it's a bad thing. It is what it is.

[GrandMajora]

To be perfectly honest, even if these do end up being the only DLC's we get fro AoW 4, I would like to think I can still be satisfied. ALL of them sound very interesting, and I would have been willing to buy the premium edition, if I had the money at the time.

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

If the developers were Paradox themselves, then I would not be surprised to see AoW 4 getting a continuous influx of DLC's and expansions for many years to come.

But, unfortunately, the developer is Triumph Studios, the same people who made AoW 3.

The same people who gave us a whopping 2 DLC expansions, and then promptly moved on to something else.

wait, you actually WANT the paradox way of dlc bloat? I can count on one hand the number of people who actually like that

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Demiurge:

wait, you actually WANT the paradox way of dlc bloat? I can count on one hand the number of people who actually like that

Constant stream of DLC means that the devs continue to support the game and make improvements over the years, instead of shoving it out the door ignoring it after a couple years.

I'll admit, not ALL of their DLC's are worth the investment. But many of them are, having introduced various QoL improvements to their games, as well as new content to enjoy.

Plus the DLC's they've already listed in the pass all sound awesome. If they keep up that level of quality, then I would be very satisfied with the 'DLC bloat.'

[Sifer2]

Originally posted by The Doctor:

Originally posted by Jack Greedy:

Its a Paradox game, expect tons of dlc. :(

It's a TRIUMPH game. Don't expect lots of DLC. What you see in the expansion pack is likely all we're going to get. TBH, that's slightly more than we got for AoW3 and AoW Planetfall. Some think this is a good thing and others think it's a bad thing. It is what it is.

That was before Paradox bought them out. Paradox model is to keep producing DLC for a game as long as it sells well. If we buy it Paradox will tell them to make more until we don't. Considering the customization is basically fantasy Stellaris the Paradox influence is already all over the game.

[~ Fabulous ~]

Originally posted by Sifer2:

Originally posted by The Doctor:

It's a TRIUMPH game. Don't expect lots of DLC. What you see in the expansion pack is likely all we're going to get. TBH, that's slightly more than we got for AoW3 and AoW Planetfall. Some think this is a good thing and others think it's a bad thing. It is what it is.

That was before Paradox bought them out. Paradox model is to keep producing DLC for a game as long as it sells well. If we buy it Paradox will tell them to make more until we don't. Considering the customization is basically fantasy Stellaris the Paradox influence is already all over the game.

will they dont do that with palnetfall now do they?

[Sifer2]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

Originally posted by Sifer2:

That was before Paradox bought them out. Paradox model is to keep producing DLC for a game as long as it sells well. If we buy it Paradox will tell them to make more until we don't. Considering the customization is basically fantasy Stellaris the Paradox influence is already all over the game.

will they dont do that with palnetfall now do they?

Planetfall was nearly done before Paradox bought them out. Like I said with AOW4 it's more obvious Paradox told them to make it in a way that supports adding years worth of DLC packs. We will see how it goes. If it doesn't sell then yeah they will move on.