Necromancy is a Tome, Undeath is a Transformation!

[GrandMajora]

Okay, seriously! There are a lot of people who seem to be asking the same question over and over. Wondering if an 'undead race' will be made available, or if you can be a necromancer faction.

Undead do not exist as their own separate race. They are a racial transformation spell that you unlock through researching Shadow Affinity Tomes. You do not start out as undead, as that would be too overpowered. But you can eventually become undead later in the game.

[GrandMajora]

The same thing also goes for Frostlings and (eventually) Draconians. They are not their own standalone races anymore, but instead have been changed to racial transformations your base faction is able to transform into through magic.

[~ Fabulous ~]

wait you can become a dragon?

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

wait you can become a dragon?

Not right now. It's set for one of the DLC's (Dragon's Dawn). In addition to including the Reptilian racial form, and the ability to transform your people into half dragon hybrids, it's also going to include a new Dragon leader type.

[~ Fabulous ~]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

wait you can become a dragon?

Not right now. It's set for one of the DLC's (Dragon's Dawn). In addition to including the Reptilian racial form, and the ability to transform your people into half dragon hybrids, it's also going to include a new Dragon leader type.

now I am hyped

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

now I am hyped

As am I.

For too long have we been denied the return of our beloved Lizardfolk to the setting!

[khargal]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

The same thing also goes for Frostlings and (eventually) Draconians. They are not their own standalone races anymore, but instead have been changed to racial transformations your base faction is able to transform into through magic.

There are Gnarled Frostlings ruled by Arctica though. Goblins with frost adaptation I assume

[puppypawsie]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Okay, seriously! There are a lot of people who seem to be asking the same question over and over. Wondering if an 'undead race' will be made available, or if you can be a necromancer faction.

Undead do not exist as their own separate race. They are a racial transformation spell that you unlock through researching Shadow Affinity Tomes. You do not start out as undead, as that would be too overpowered. But you can eventually become undead later in the game.

would be to overpowered? look at age of wonders 3 you can start as undead there too and its fully balanced with negative and positive effects boths.

[khargal]

Originally posted by plushypiggy:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Okay, seriously! There are a lot of people who seem to be asking the same question over and over. Wondering if an 'undead race' will be made available, or if you can be a necromancer faction.

Undead do not exist as their own separate race. They are a racial transformation spell that you unlock through researching Shadow Affinity Tomes. You do not start out as undead, as that would be too overpowered. But you can eventually become undead later in the game.

would be to overpowered? look at age of wonders 3 you can start as undead there too and its fully balanced with negative and positive effects boths.

Ok, its simple. Lorewise there is no such thing as undead civilization

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by plushypiggy:

would be to overpowered? look at age of wonders 3 you can start as undead there too and its fully balanced with negative and positive effects boths.

Because undead in this game get a ton of resistances and immunities. For example, they're immune to bleeding and poison, which makes racial traits such as Resilient and Resolute kind of redundant, if not totally obsolete. You could then assign other powerful traits in their place and have incredibly tanky units right out of the gate.

[ghostrider]

cool im just a random guy

[Kain]

Originally posted by khargal:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

The same thing also goes for Frostlings and (eventually) Draconians. They are not their own standalone races anymore, but instead have been changed to racial transformations your base faction is able to transform into through magic.

There are Gnarled Frostlings ruled by Arctica though. Goblins with frost adaptation I assume

Wrong. Her race are humans.

[khargal]

Originally posted by Kain:

Originally posted by khargal:

There are Gnarled Frostlings ruled by Arctica though. Goblins with frost adaptation I assume

Wrong. Her race are humans.

Weird, I mean original frostlings were goblins, but checked it, they are barbaric humans with fast recuperation and frost adaptation. Also ruthless raiders and powerful evokers. Should I mention her having tome of cryomancy?

[Kain]

Triumps removed their goblonoid physics in Eternal Lords, and it seems they are going to stick with it.

Altough they definitaly will explain this retcon away by merely saying the frostlings in 1 & 2 were of the gobloinid physique, and there were always the humanoid ones somewhere.

[Lordofriva]

The real question is, as we have only seen skeleton spearman afaik, are undead only seperate units or is there a skeletal transformation, the ghoul stuff in 3 was pretty bland but I wonder if they are able to make skeletal models for all races, like rats and toads.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Lordofriva:

The real question is, as we have only seen skeleton spearman afaik, are undead only seperate units or is there a skeletal transformation, the ghoul stuff in 3 was pretty bland but I wonder if they are able to make skeletal models for all races, like rats and toads.

They are a transformation. We even see one of the enemy units in game who has the 'Wightborn' racial transformation. Unfortunately, it's stacked with the Steelskin transformation too, so it's hard to tell what they actually look like.

But yes, the developers have already confirmed that you can make your people undead. Just like you can make them Angels and Demons.


Some races from past games, such as Frostlings, Undead and Draconians are still going to appear in game, but not their own separate races. Instead, they are racial transformations that your people can evolve into through tomes.

((I included Draconians in that list, because it seems pretty obvious that the Dragon's Dawn DLC is going to include a Draconian transformation.))