The new races

[Dwarfurious]

wow those really came out of no where, i wonder if the story will explain, the fact that we get both ratmen and molemen make me think something underground happened... as if they were driven closer to the surface by something? Return of the shadow demons perhaps?

[(TRC)Reaper]

we have 9 races from what we can see... most likely some more coming through DLC but im more interested with the customization of your race... seems theres alot to look through and now the game will have "paragon" system which progresses your characters/races and unlocks other things, most likely like planetfall

[Goemoe]

Humans, orcs, elfs, tigrans, goblins, rodents, frogs, halflings, dwarfs, moles, underground disciples can be seen in the paradox video. Probably some frostlings and draconians will be there as well. Would be great if they would be covered by campaigns.

[Central]

Originally posted by Goemoe:

Humans, orcs, elfs, tigrans, goblins, rodents, frogs, halflings, dwarfs, moles, underground disciples can be seen in the paradox video. Probalby some frostlings and draconians will be there as well. Would be great if they would be covered by campaigns.

i am not entirely certain that the underground disciples are an entirely seperate race, they dont show up in the list of races when they are making their own race.
in the pre made race list we do see a fiendish rodent but if you look at the icon than it is clearly a rat

[Goemoe]

rodents... rat... frogs... toads... it all the... oh wait, Sikbok mentioned, toads are no frogs. I apologize ;) So rats might not be mere rodents as well.

The underground disciples have a strange different picture so perhaps they are a race. We will see. :) (can't wait...)

[Central]

Originally posted by Goemoe:

The underground disciples have a strange different picture so perhaps they are a race. We will see. :) (can't wait...)

i think it is mostly a helmet that makes them look weird. they look like a normal humanoid race. if you look at Zaethyl Silverleaf than it looks like a similar face, if you take away her hair than it even looks like they have a similar thin neck. so personally i think those underground disciples are just elves.
i would also find it pretty strange that they would have hidden a single race from the race selection screen.

but like you said, we will see :)

Originally posted by Goemoe:

Humans, orcs, elfs, tigrans, goblins, rodents, frogs, halflings, dwarfs, moles, underground disciples can be seen in the paradox video. Probably some frostlings and draconians will be there as well. Would be great if they would be covered by campaigns.

i forgot to mention this, but frostlings are no longer a race in old terms it seems, they are now a transformation.
at 36:02 in the gameplay reveal we see that they have given the berserker a frostling transformation. its at the bottom of the list of effects.

[Goemoe]

You are right. So only homemade frostlings this time, but some leaflings, flamelings or waterlings as well ;-)

[Roderick]

Originally posted by Dwarfurious:

wow those really came out of no where, i wonder if the story will explain, the fact that we get both ratmen and molemen make me think something underground happened... as if they were driven closer to the surface by something? Return of the shadow demons perhaps?

After the age of magic vanished with the wizzard kings to the void, technology became the dominating force. But people stayed the same. Huge wars broke out and left the world contaminated and radiated. After first new settlings formed around champions who fight the new mutated threat from below the ground, the wizzard kings make their return...

[Iguana-on-a-stick]

Originally posted by Dwarfurious:

wow those really came out of no where, i wonder if the story will explain, the fact that we get both ratmen and molemen make me think something underground happened... as if they were driven closer to the surface by something? Return of the shadow demons perhaps?

I'm guessing they're from different worlds.

The reveal video disusses how the title screen represents the "Mage Haven" which is the place between worlds where the wizards plan their invasions of various worlds.

So with the Shadow Realm and portals unlocked, we're getting cross-dimensional travel and wars. And some of those other worlds will have toad and rat people in them. This explains why race creation is now a feature: with an infinite (or just huge) amount of worlds to explore, you'll find all kinds of weirdness.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Goemoe:

Humans, orcs, elfs, tigrans, goblins, rodents, frogs, halflings, dwarfs, moles, underground disciples can be seen in the paradox video. Probably some frostlings and draconians will be there as well. Would be great if they would be covered by campaigns.

Frostlings will not be an independent race, but a possible evolution you can go down.

They state on their paradox website that they have "racial transformation" spells which will permanently alter your people and dictate how they evolve over the course of the story.

We see in their gameplay demo that the orcs they were using have been affected by the Frostling Transformation, which turns their skin blue and gives them some arctic themed advantages.

Among the possible transformations, we have confirmed that Frostlings, Angels, Demons and Undead are going to be possible. There may be others that have not been revealed yet, however.

[Fistimus Maximus]

eh hope archons are back instead of the undead we got from aow3 didnt enjoy the direction they went with that game. Also wish elves were split again with darkelves and light.

[Central]

Originally posted by Fistimus Maximus:

eh hope archons are back instead of the undead we got from aow3 didnt enjoy the direction they went with that game. Also wish elves were split again with darkelves and light.

undead are a transformation from shadow tomes now, not a separate race. there are various forms of undead.
source [forum.paradoxplaza.com]

[Dwarfurious]

Originally posted by Fistimus Maximus:

eh hope archons are back instead of the undead we got from aow3 didnt enjoy the direction they went with that game. Also wish elves were split again with darkelves and light.

holy ♥♥♥♥ no, no game needs more than one kind of elf in it. You can make your own dark elves in AoW4 thats kind of the point of the system. I think AoW is the only fantasy series in history that looked at its roster and thought "eh, two elves is too many" and actually recombined them. And now we have FROG PEOPLE!

[sandman25dcsss]

Originally posted by Dwarfurious:

I think AoW is the only fantasy series in history that looked at its roster and thought "eh, two elves is too many" and actually recombined them.

DCSS had 4 kinds of elves (Deep, High, Grey and Sledge), now there is only one left.

[Dwarfurious]

Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:

Originally posted by Dwarfurious:

I think AoW is the only fantasy series in history that looked at its roster and thought "eh, two elves is too many" and actually recombined them.

DCSS had 4 kinds of elves (Deep, High, Grey and Sledge), now there is only one left.

What is DCSS ? what the heck is a sledge elf? I've seen deep gnomes and deep dwarves but deep elves too? Truly they are a plague
oh wait you mean dungeon crawl stone soup; ok but thats an easy fix especially in a game with dozens of whacky races (still no excuse to put a hat on an elf and call it a new race of Hat Elves). AoW didnt just cut them it was part of the story to re-combine them after the events of #1

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Dwarfurious:

Originally posted by Fistimus Maximus:

eh hope archons are back instead of the undead we got from aow3 didnt enjoy the direction they went with that game. Also wish elves were split again with darkelves and light.

holy ♥♥♥♥ no, no game needs more than one kind of elf in it. You can make your own dark elves in AoW4 thats kind of the point of the system. I think AoW is the only fantasy series in history that looked at its roster and thought "eh, two elves is too many" and actually recombined them. And now we have FROG PEOPLE!

Baring in mind that the elves only split, because they were divided on their opinion of how to react to the humans massacring their people and seizing their land.

The wood elves wanted to overcome their trauma and move on, while the dark elves were consumed with their desire to seek vengeance. After they reconciled with each other, the race united once more and became the High Elves again.