Not a Suikoden successor in the slightest.

[prototype81]

The marketing for this game and journalists are ingenuine.

I was excited for this but after watching the videos and listening to the voice overs this is nothing like the masterpieces that suikoden I and II were.

It's silly, childish, the VA is annoying, it's much more light hearted and seems like it was made for children. The Suikoden franchise dabbled a little bit in quirky humor here and there but 90% of the time it took itself seriously and got into some dark topics especially for the time peroiod. The music was also fantastic.

Ive also been seeing word about the english translation and how its been altered to suit western politics/agendas similar to AAA titles, disney, netflix, Industry pop music, etc. which is literally disgusting. Suikoden was a piece of art. This is an altered childrens story under the guise of a successor.

I had hopes as Suikoden 1 and 2 were 2 of my favorite rpgs growing up.

[hydlided]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Neonivek:

I love that people's defence that this game's combat is better is that "Suikoden's combat was simple"

I just had to go through the complete thread here. And no one used those exact wording.

[Quickpawmaud]

The golem gender thing just proves these are snowflake people trying to get offended. It was not a political correctness thing. It was a joke where she was implying the golem was an "it" not trying to correct the pronouns. That was your first example and it already shows your intentions.

[prototype81]

I mean, its a matter of opinion. The fact you guys need to attack a human being to protect a material object is bonkers to me and shows the divide between generations. When I grew up we accepted peoples differences even if we didnt agree. We didnt act immaturely and insult eachother as a cultural norm. Yet some of you are calling me woke and a cultural warrior, which is delusional.

Should really reexamine yourselves. Maybe im wrong about the game, I have not played it as I mentioned but everything ive seen so far didnt scream suikoden to me at all. And thats ok if it doesnt for me but does for you.

Maybe spend less time on the internet and more time with actual people and step up those life skills instead of RPG skills. It will make you happier and less angry, I promise. :)

Good luck.

[Valar Morghulis]

I bet when Suikoden 1 and 2 has a VA you would say the same negative comments. Can you just enjoy what they make here?

Here is my suggestion:
1. Find a good job so spending 50$ doesn't feel like its too pricey.
2. Play in Japanese VA. Clearly this is Japanese game.

I found the game to be amazing so far, not sure what brings you down. Just go back to play Suiko in emulator maybe?

[SimranZenov]

Welcome to the gaming industry. Even Suikoden's story was altered in English to suit western audiences.

[tankanidis]

Diposting pertama kali oleh SinsOfHistory:

Diposting pertama kali oleh prototype81:

I mean, its a matter of opinion. The fact you guys need to attack a human being to protect a material object is bonkers to me and shows the divide between generations. When I grew up we accepted peoples differences even if we didnt agree. We didnt act immaturely and insult eachother as a cultural norm. Yet some of you are calling me woke and a cultural warrior, which is delusional.

Should really reexamine yourselves. Maybe im wrong about the game, I have not played it as I mentioned but everything ive seen so far didnt scream suikoden to me at all. And thats ok if it doesnt for me but does for you.

Maybe spend less time on the internet and more time with actual people and step up those life skills instead of RPG skills. It will make you happier and less angry, I promise. :)

Good luck.

Wait, so you admit you never actually played this game? You just parroted an opinion based on what someone else told you to say?

Really does feel like a Smear Campaign.

You havn't played the game either so it's rich to target others that way, at least they are posting on their real accounts to make their comments, not some alt account that doesn't even bother to have a PFP

[Raelic]

If you haven't played the game and didn't back the game, why are you here? You have no expertise to argue with. People have already said your piece. Just post your "I won't buy til fixed." and go.

[Melodia]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tegridy Farms:

This game is about as much of a Suikoden game as Persona is a SMT game.

Persona is literally an SMT game. It says so right in the title.

[CLG]

Eiyuden gets the Suikoden feel down but it doesn't really compare at all to the stories or writing of the characters from Suikoden. Every Suikoden game except 3 starts with a pretty gripping hook to give the main character a driving motivator to continue, Nowa just feels like he's there for the ride. Eiyuden draws a lot of its inspiration from nostalgia but a lot of it just falls flat on its face. The game isn't terrible but the writing and characters are nowhere near Suikoden. Eiyuden takes the most inspiration from 3 and it shows.

[Raelic]

Diposting pertama kali oleh CLG:

Eiyuden gets the Suikoden feel down but it doesn't really compare at all to the stories or writing of the characters from Suikoden. Every Suikoden game except 3 starts with a pretty gripping hook to give the main character a driving motivator to continue, Nowa just feels like he's there for the ride Eiyuden draws a lot of its inspiration from nostalgia but a lot of it just falls flat on its face. The game isn't terrible but the writing and characters are nowhere near Suikoden. Eiyuden takes the most inspiration from 3 and it shows.

Spot on.

[tankanidis]

Diposting pertama kali oleh SinsOfHistory:

Diposting pertama kali oleh tankanidis:

You havn't played the game either so it's rich to target others that way, at least they are posting on their real accounts to make their comments, not some alt account that doesn't even bother to have a PFP

I have played i just finished redthroat ridge..
recruiting the first batch.
...you have no evidence to claim otherwise.
you're just making a false accusation
the other user admitted they didnt play at all

You've relentlessly hounded people into proving they purchased the game via screenshots of their kickstarter backing information

Meanwhile everything you say is 100% truth without ever posting a linked reference to support to your position with proof

Rules for thee but not for me

[Tegridy Farms]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raelic:

Diposting pertama kali oleh CLG:

Eiyuden gets the Suikoden feel down but it doesn't really compare at all to the stories or writing of the characters from Suikoden. Every Suikoden game except 3 starts with a pretty gripping hook to give the main character a driving motivator to continue, Nowa just feels like he's there for the ride Eiyuden draws a lot of its inspiration from nostalgia but a lot of it just falls flat on its face. The game isn't terrible but the writing and characters are nowhere near Suikoden. Eiyuden takes the most inspiration from 3 and it shows.

Spot on.

That was basicly my first impression from the first 6 hours. Every other suikoden game i have played (2 and 5) already had multiple compelling hooks by then Eiyuden didn't by then and it appears some people think it never really does throughout the entire story.

[Drusain]

Diposting pertama kali oleh prototype81:

I mean, its a matter of opinion. The fact you guys need to attack a human being to protect a material object is bonkers to me and shows the divide between generations. When I grew up we accepted peoples differences even if we didnt agree. We didnt act immaturely and insult eachother as a cultural norm. Yet some of you are calling me woke and a cultural warrior, which is delusional.

Should really reexamine yourselves. Maybe im wrong about the game, I have not played it as I mentioned but everything ive seen so far didnt scream suikoden to me at all. And thats ok if it doesnt for me but does for you.

Maybe spend less time on the internet and more time with actual people and step up those life skills instead of RPG skills. It will make you happier and less angry, I promise. :)

Good luck.

I think this is pathetic.

Here's the thing about Suikoden and why the people clutching their pearls about Eiyuden who are pretending to have played Suikoden don't get why we're still happy with it and give a lot of leeway on Eiyuden:

Suikoden is mid. And I love my mid series.

It's not a masterpiece series. Suikoden 2 has some masterpiece moments, but are some small parts of the whole. All of Suikoden games have incredibly good moments, but for most of the game it's mid. Most of all of the series is mid. They look good, they have some really good animations.

Suikoden 3 characters look like they have a stick up their butts when they walked which even then was pretty ugly. But it also had a compelling mystery theme, had a lot of story hooks resolved that I think were well received by the fanbase, and I liked the way the did the POV story campaigns.

Suikoden 5 has in my opinion the best story premise of the series. But the game also has like 15 seconds of loading time for a battle to start. The game takes as long as a Persona game takes to get the actual gameplay (I like the slow burn in Suikoden 5, but many complain about it). It also has in my favorite war battle and dual systems.

I don't like Suikoden 4 at all, but I also respect why some people do.

But they're all mid. All of them are. A small niche of it just happen to have enjoyed it along with the the Final Fantasy games and the Tales Of games and the Star Ocean games at the time. Maybe with Xenogears or Shadow Hearts or whatever.

And when Konami dropped the series, and 20 years later R&B do a decent job of carrying the torch and plan to continue the series, this was a good thing.

So when you come here as part of a smear campaign on a series you know nothing about, think about a series you liked but is gone now, and you wish the type of game is gone, but in your heart of hearts, you know it won't. If a Kickstarter campaign tries to revive it, think of us. Maybe we'll help support it instead of hating on something we don't know about.

[Tegridy Farms]

You know i was in the middle of typing out a well thought out response to the post above me but then i realized it would be a waste of my time to even bother with someone who thinks that people giving their opinion on a product is a "smear campaign". I'll just say this. Even if i did agree with your argument that the Suikoden games i have played which are just 2 and 5 are mid (which i don't think they are for their time) they still do have those masterpiece moments, you admitted it yourself, and they generally have 1 that happens early in the game as a "hook". Have yet to see any such moment in Eiyuden Chornicle in my first 6 hours some claim there isn't one at all.

[Drusain]

I'm going to take my comment back. I read it as someone who hadn't played the games, but the original post did say you had played them. I thought you had not when I wrote my post.