Was Suikoden made with inspiration from Shinning force?

[Mr Fantastic]

Tons of PCs, big more or less open world, upgradeable town base, non human PCs, etc

[DeadlyKitten]

I'd love a remaster or remake of Shining Force EXA honestly.
Or Rogue Galaxy ,_, .

[Mr Fantastic]

Originally posted by Seya:

I'd love a remaster or remake of Shining Force EXA honestly.
Or Rogue Galaxy ,_, .

Shining souls and ex are not really shining force, they are spin offs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU7LoM4DHW8

[DeadlyKitten]

I saw, but only EXA stuck with me when i played it back on PS2.
I just loved the gameplay and the story.

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

I don't know if it was ever directly mentioned as an inspiration. I think it's at least within the realm of plausibility that it was an indirect one, in some respects. Though it's hard to say without explicit references.

The number of characters was directly due to the story being inspired by The Water Margin and its 108 outlaws. And the presence of the town being built up gradually was apparently at least in large part due to the desire to avoid having nothing but combat characters, hence having lots of services and vendors, etc. and they needed a reason and place to exist in, hence the town.

So it may just be an example of convergent evolution happening independently, resulting in similar game design elements for completely different reasons.

There are some more explicit and direct game influences mentioned in this article, Dragon Quest V and others among them: https://arcadology.net/the-development-of-suikoden/

And here's a video version of it for those who prefer that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGkjXoMZNCA

[N-X]

I am getting the best kind of Breath of Fire flashbacks.

[Mr Fantastic]

Originally posted by N-X:

I am getting the best kind of Breath of Fire flashbacks.

Yes BoF was also one of the first JRPJs to give us a couple non human characters although always less than 10 characters. Shining force 1 and 2 have 30 characters each.

You can have a party of 3 or 4 in BoF games, In shining force it's 12. But shining force combat resembles more Xcom and Fire emblem than it does a traditional JRPG. While BoF is a complete JRPG with the cool mechanic of various methods to travel over the world map.

[Trip Fisk]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

Tons of PCs, big more or less open world, upgradeable town base, non human PCs, etc

what? no! the two games are completely different! For starters, one is.... wait. hold on, why did you misspell "shining"?

you know what? forget it....