Buy DualSense Gamepad just for Returnal?

[Darkreaver1980]

Hi there,

i decided to buy returnal and i wonder if i should get the DualSense Gamepad just for it. I heard great stuff but im not sure, its around 75€ for one.

Does returnal have great haptic feedback?

[Sygmaelle]

Originally posted by JackGamer:

Dual Sense is a fantastic controller to use on PC/Steam.

I have the Edge and the standard Dual Sense, and a PS5, so I know if there are any difference between the PC and PS5 versions of the haptive feedback and adaptive triggers. And I have two Xbox Elite controllers.

PC games I have played where Dual Senses haptive feedback and/or adaptive triggers are supported:

A) COD compaign (trigger pull on weapons)
B) A Plauge Tale
C) F1 2022
D) Valhalla (When using bow)
E) Spiderman remaster and Miles Morales
F) Uncharted 4
G) Witcher 3 (only some of the PS5s features are supported)
H) Forspoken

Even in games that just have general haptive feedback (not specifically designed for Dual Sense), the quality of the haptive feedback i often much better than on other controllers. I feel this in Forza Horizon 5 and Hogwarts.

Returnal I have played for over 100 hours on my PS5. The game uses the Dual Sense features very good. But we have to see if it will get the same support on PC. I expect it will.

Can add Deathloop and Metro Exodus to the list. Granted Deathloop probably has the best implementation so far, well until tomorrow that is

[Sticky White Stuff]

Returnal has one of the best DualSense Haptics/Triggers on the PS5.

I wouldn't buy a DualSense for just one game. And i don't know how well other controllers will work with it, because it's trigger based (Half-Press/Full-Press) for weapons.

But there are a lot more games that support DualSense native. So if you get a chance to play those other games, it might be worth it.

When people go and say something is "Next-Gen" DualSense and 3D Audio is the first things that come to my mind. When it comes to controllers, it's the best thing ever, on a PS5 that is because audio is converted to haptics.

It's hard to explain, but everything you touch, everything you hear, is directly transfered to the DualSense if the game uses it. For example, you can feel the touch of rain and dropplets on your controller. Same with Sand, Thunder, Wind. It's not regular vibration, it's all over the controller. It's very immersive. But i can only speak for the PS5.

[toughy]

Originally posted by Valadhiel0820:

Originally posted by Darkreaver1980:

Hi there,

i decided to buy returnal and i wonder if i should get the DualSense Gamepad just for it. I heard great stuff but im not sure, its around 75€ for one.

Does returnal have great haptic feedback?

I bought the Dualsense since the day PS5 launched, never regret it for using on PC, PlayStation controller always the best controller for game using on PC, used PS3-PS4-PS5, too bad I out of budget to buy Dualsense Edge and my current Dualsense still usable and like new

Don't buy an Edge now, especially not for PC Games, I have one, for PC it's nothing more than a brick currently, nothing works...

[Jex]

Originally posted by D2Synua:

don't bother, the dualsense is not worth the asking price.

It's 50 on a sale

[Jex]

Originally posted by Samael:

I havent tried Returnal but, I did try other games with the dualasense, and i'd say - absolutely not.

Yes, returnal has haptics, but if it's like all the other games I tried, it's a neat gimmick for about 30 min and that's about it. On the other hand this is a third person shooter bullethell so aiming and better camera control will be far more useful than anything the gamepad offers.

But, if you were looking to buy a controller aniway (if you dont have one), dualsense is pretty good.

Playing Genshin Impact on a ps5 vs PC makes a difference. It's nice having the menu sounds close to you. But anyway steam input exists. Gyro aiming is a thing:
https://youtu.be/PJIqEX93vL8

[toughy]

Originally posted by toughy:

Originally posted by Valadhiel0820:

I bought the Dualsense since the day PS5 launched, never regret it for using on PC, PlayStation controller always the best controller for game using on PC, used PS3-PS4-PS5, too bad I out of budget to buy Dualsense Edge and my current Dualsense still usable and like new

Don't buy an Edge now, especially not for PC Games, I have one, for PC it's nothing more than a brick currently, nothing works...

Wow, just tested Returnal, the first title which runs out of the box with the Edge! I'm blown away right now! I hope it is just getting better from here on out.

[Francis_Mallman]

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

Originally posted by Francis_Mallman:

Ugh.

The game wasn’t designed for it.

Why not?

Because it wasn’t.

The game was designed for PlayStation gamers, and therefore for players using a controller.

If we accept as true the claim that a mouse and keyboard makes aiming easier, then we have to accept that using a mouse and keyboard makes the game itself easier, and is therefore a cheat.

Gameplay balance is a massive part of any game’s design, and any inherent difficulties associated with using a controller would be factored into that balance by the game’s designers. You’re literally messing with the balance by using controls that make the game easier to play. Okay, if you’re happy with that then it’s your choice.

I prefer to play the game as it was meant to be played.

[Dabcity]

Originally posted by Francis_Mallman:

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

Why not?

Because it wasn’t.

The game was designed for PlayStation gamers, and therefore for players using a controller.

If we accept as true the claim that a mouse and keyboard makes aiming easier, then we have to accept that using a mouse and keyboard makes the game itself easier, and is therefore a cheat.

Gameplay balance is a massive part of any game’s design, and any inherent difficulties associated with using a controller would be factored into that balance by the game’s designers. You’re literally messing with balance by using controls that make the game easier to play.

🤣

[Sunsetter]

Originally posted by Francis_Mallman:

Because it wasn’t.

The game was designed for PlayStation gamers, and therefore for players using a controller.

If we accept as true the claim that a mouse and keyboard makes aiming easier, then we have to accept that using a mouse and keyboard makes the game itself easier, and is therefore a cheat.

Gameplay balance is a massive part of any game’s design, and any inherent difficulties associated with using a controller would be factored into that balance by the game’s designers. You’re literally messing with the balance by using controls that make the game easier to play. Okay, if you’re happy with that then it’s your choice.

I prefer to play the game as it was meant to be played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

[toughy]

Originally posted by Francis_Mallman:

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

Why not?

Because it wasn’t.

The game was designed for PlayStation gamers, and therefore for players using a controller.

If we accept as true the claim that a mouse and keyboard makes aiming easier, then we have to accept that using a mouse and keyboard makes the game itself easier, and is therefore a cheat.

Gameplay balance is a massive part of any game’s design, and any inherent difficulties associated with using a controller would be factored into that balance by the game’s designers. You’re literally messing with the balance by using controls that make the game easier to play. Okay, if you’re happy with that then it’s your choice.

I prefer to play the game as it was meant to be played.

I agree. People are dumb if they don't acknowledge M+K superior in general, don't listen to them...

[Darkreaver1980]

So, after trying the game with dualsense and M&K there isnt realy any competation. The DualSense is WAY superior. The feeling it gives is realy stunning. Aiming with M&K isnt realy needed cos the autoaim with gamepad is kinda high, so you can just focus on evading and on the great DualSense feeling :)

[TotesBreakfast]

For me it's a relief not having the dual sense functionality. To me it has always felt gimmicky and distracting. Some people love it, though, so YMMV.

[KillerKomodoOhNo]

Originally posted by dozilla:

Originally posted by Darkreaver1980:

Hi there,

i decided to buy returnal and i wonder if i should get the DualSense Gamepad just for it. I heard great stuff but im not sure, its around 75€ for one.

Does returnal have great haptic feedback?

Yeah but then we have to aim with sticks...no thanks. That's like spreading peanut butter with a fork.

Just use gyro via Steam Input (or in game if it offers it) when aiming/focusing. It's really not that bad.

[Jex]

Originally posted by TotesBreakfast:

For me it's a relief not having the dual sense functionality. To me it has always felt gimmicky and distracting. Some people love it, though, so YMMV.

Did you ever have a Wii?

[RdRStar]

it's worth checking out if you got a little money to burn or plan on buying more ps titles. they did a good job with it here.

i bought the dualsense just for this game, and i dont regret it. i may switch to mk at some point when the game becomes more difficult, but i'm enjoying it with the controller so far.