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◢BAHAMUT BLAST◤ Mar 1, 2024 @ 3:10pm
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The game uses AI voices.
Was going to purchase the game, but turns out the devs have used AI voices instead of respecting fellow creators enough to hire voice actors or just using text. Do better.
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Crunchy[Daz] Mar 1, 2024 @ 3:32pm 
Love the huge amounts of evidence and proof you provided to back up your claim. Its a good thing you have evidence or people would just think you're making ♥♥♥♥ up about something you know nothing about really.

Oh wait...
DELTAGOD Mar 1, 2024 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:
Love the huge amounts of evidence and proof you provided to back up your claim. Its a good thing you have evidence or people would just think you're making ♥♥♥♥ up about something you know nothing about really.

Oh wait...

In the in game credits it says Ai Generation as a credit.
Given there are 6 other voice actors I would love if it actually said who voiced what.
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Herr Morlock Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
Can't wait until all the Hollywood stars will be redundant and will get thrown out of their places, becoming unemployed hobos... oh, their tears will be delicious...
Tim Apple Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:06pm 
So a single dev is supposed to fork up money they may not have for a game they are releasing? You sound incredibly priveleged.
lifetapstudios  [developer] Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:14pm 
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We can understand if not everyone is happy about the presence of AI voice actors. We included a voice slider for those not wanting to mute them. I should note there was a need for voiced lines because unvoiced text was hard to read at times whilst flying around, particularly in combat. We also had non-native English speakers being exhausted from the text overload, the voices help alleviate that. Last, our budget was tiny for this project which can be found by looking up our kickstarter. Thus we had to find cost effective methods using AI voices.
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Serket Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
I can see the point of trying to hire real voice actors to perform the dialog, but in the case of such a small team and such a niche game, I would prefer if as much of the budget went to mechanics and polish.

At the end of the day if the game was bad not even the best voice talent in the world would save it from that. So here's hoping the game does well enough so it allows the devs to hire voice actors and patch it in the future.
DELTAGOD Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by lifetapstudios:
We can understand if not everyone is happy about the presence of AI voice actors. We included a voice slider for those not wanting to mute them. I should note there was a need for voiced lines because unvoiced text was hard to read at times whilst flying around, particularly in combat. We also had non-native English speakers being exhausted from the text overload, the voices help alleviate that. Last, our budget was tiny for this project which can be found by looking up our kickstarter. Thus we had to find cost effective methods using AI voices.

Thank you for taking the time to give a detailed explanation. I am enjoying the game and the loop so far.
lifetapstudios  [developer] Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:29pm 
Glad to hear it. And absolutely we would hire real voice actors if we had the budget. Although AI voice actors are cheap... they're really hard to make sound semi convincing and emote correctly. It's really tedious work that I don't wish upon anyone and I sorta doubt we would do again of this scale.
xSagira_Stonedx Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by lifetapstudios:
We can understand if not everyone is happy about the presence of AI voice actors. We included a voice slider for those not wanting to mute them. I should note there was a need for voiced lines because unvoiced text was hard to read at times whilst flying around, particularly in combat. We also had non-native English speakers being exhausted from the text overload, the voices help alleviate that. Last, our budget was tiny for this project which can be found by looking up our kickstarter. Thus we had to find cost effective methods using AI voices.

Yeah I'm not terribly happy about the presence of AI generation anywhere in my media but at least you were honest about using it.

And you didn't use it to *avoid* hiring anyone for fair pay. Y'all just didn't have the budget, which is understandable.
M1lh0u53 Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:38pm 
I just completed the tutorial, You can tell it's either AI or non-English speaking Voice actors.
There's a pause mid sentence that shouldn't be there, well the silence hung around longer then it should have been before then next word was said.
Iskandar Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:57pm 
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Nah, the statement "we couldn't afford to not steal artwork" doesn't justify stealing the content. That's what ai is 1:1.

If you couldn't afford it, then you scale it down to make a product that would work, even if you made it purely text or you yourself had to do some badly read lines.

You don't get to steal art because "uwu, I'm just a poor boy, uwu"

If you didn't have the budget to make the product without it, then you didn't have the budget to make the product and you scale accordingly.
drache444444 Mar 1, 2024 @ 5:40pm 
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Originally posted by Iskandar:
Nah, the statement "we couldn't afford to not steal artwork" doesn't justify stealing the content. That's what ai is 1:1.

i guess someone doesnt know how ai generation works. especially how ai voice generation works
Fae Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:10pm 
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imagine being so butthurt about ai voices for a indie dev team. i honestly appreciate it not everyone has the budget to get voice actors.
moonlightavenger Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:11pm 
I might care if it was a giant producer. In this game, I don't care.
Fae Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Iskandar:
Nah, the statement "we couldn't afford to not steal artwork" doesn't justify stealing the content. That's what ai is 1:1.

If you couldn't afford it, then you scale it down to make a product that would work, even if you made it purely text or you yourself had to do some badly read lines.

You don't get to steal art because "uwu, I'm just a poor boy, uwu"

If you didn't have the budget to make the product without it, then you didn't have the budget to make the product and you scale accordingly.
ai doesn't steal anything unless you mean steal as in getting inspiration and from other art pieces like a human does to make original art then yes. But what ai art actually does is just figures out what things make a style just like a human does, then makes something similiar which isn't stealing and nobody thinks a genre of art is stealing.
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