Thymesia vs Steel rising vs Lies of P

[Mecharion]

All three are souls likes with similar settings and i plan to play one of them.

Since I only have time to play ONE of them for now - which one you would recommed?

Which one is the most fun to play in your opinion / which one is worth the time the most?

Thx :)

[Something]

引用自 soiberi1：

Not even close. Lies of P is way better than Thymesia and Steel rising

If I would rate, steel rising def the bottom. Way too unpolished, borin gameplay and repetitive

Thymesia also suffers same problem. Lies of P is the only one worth playing

Lies of P likes to throw random super high difficulty spikes at you with no warning though, so gotta take that into consideration.

Given this game was done by the people who made Bless Online/Bless Unleashed, if you find an issue with this game, don't expect it to ever get resolved.

[Phantom Limb]

This game is the best of them, no real competition to be seen. It's obviously not the level of Fromsoft but as close as we can get now.

[MundM]

引用自 soiberi1：

引用自 MundM：

I would say all three are pretty mediocre and don't even come close to feel as good as a Fromsoftware game.
From all three, though, Lies of Pie seems to be the most polished one.
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Found the software fanboy. They think their goldy studio are good. Fromsoftware games are not perfect nor "amazing". Elden ring is an overrated empty open world + copy paste, this is just typical Ubisoft game with the flavors of Fromsoftware studio to make it looks good. The map is big but not much to do and you fight the same bosses, the same catacomb bosses etc.

Darksould is good dont get me wrong, but there is still vastly improvement needed on the series. Sekiro gameplay is great, however that game literally you vs mini bosses and bosses. There isn't much new thing to say, the game also get incredibly easy once you get good with parry. The amount of customization in these game are mediocre

Lies of P has great customization, well polished on pair with Fromsoftware. The gameplay loop doesn't bore you, it has good dungeon design, clean tutorial and UI for players to understand the game and to look at. This game is on pair if not better than games from software.

Does that mean the game is perfect? OFC Nope, there is still always things to improve. One of example is the durable system which doesn't do much for the game except adding annoying task for player to spam. Delay attack on bosses are terrible, this is DS mechanic and IT IS TERRIBLE. It doesnt help you growth as player, it only helps you get better VS CERTAIN BOSSES which Asmongold pointed out and it is a great point. This example is the same with Wolong dynasty and sekiro as certain both literally spamming AOE attack and you can't parry. That mean the game tell you to not use mechanic available in the game and just get good rng

You clearly have a chip on your shoulder.

If you honestly believe any of these 3 games hold up to Elden Ring, then you are lying or delusional.
You probably are comparing current released games, with Dark Souls, lol, yeah, that's fair. Compare a newly made game where devs profit from experiencing souls games by Fromsoft for over a decade... Dark Souls 1 is better than Thymesia and Steelrising in terms of amount of content, lore, the music, the build variety and much more, and might only lack in bossfights, for there are only a few that still hold up in DS 1.
There is no point in playing Thymesia, when you could be playing Sekiro, unless you've already spend your time in Sekiro, but if you haven't played Sekiro and have to decide, you honestly would tell me you'd rather buy Thymesia?

[soiberi1]

引用自 Lies of Poornocio Xbox Enjoyer：

i played thymesia and finished it. its very short game and has few
bosses . parrying is fun has small window than sekiro

the enemy variety in thymesia is not memorable and they all feel the same and reused but the bosses are tough , well designed , challenging and fun.

avoid steel rising its meh
do me a favor go see steelrising ending and spoil yourself how ridiculous cringy and how unrealistic it was made. the plot armor is real and funny. its combat is clunky and not fun and boss fight are ridiculous easy you dont get punished spamming dodge. the attack tracking of boss is meh and predictable.

i would rather play wulong than steel rising even its weakest souls alike from team ninja...

You totally nailed it, I think this probably the general feeling to anyone who've been playing games and understood the game to give criticism.

I am surprised you mention Wulong there as this game is also not polished but i guess anything is better than Steel rising at this point. The downfall of that game is the Flash system, equipment weight in a high action game, camera and lock system is trash.

[Tourette's Guy]

引用自 .VM8RA：

The surge 2 was cool as well TBH, probably the next best one, and then Code Vein.

I suppose it's a matter of taste but... I think The Surge 2 is somewhat better than this game. The combat feels smoother and it feels more polished and well rounded.

Lies of P is an AA indie videogame and you can notice that when you play it.

[soiberi1]

引用自 Tourette's Guy：

引用自 .VM8RA：

The surge 2 was cool as well TBH, probably the next best one, and then Code Vein.

I suppose it's a matter of taste but... I think The Surge 2 is somewhat better than this game. The combat feels smoother and it feels more polished and well rounded.

Lies of P is an AA indie videogame and you can notice that when you play it.

Surge 2 "combat smooth" . This is why you know fanboy when you see one

And 2nd is uninformed, Lies of P is not "indie" AA , even their studio are. Their product is AAA because it sold for 70$. This is AAA price, and saying Surge 2 is more polished than Lies of P definitely require a big mental gymnastic you have

[Rufus]

Lies of P is by far the best of the three. It looks great, feels great to play and runs very well with very few technical issues.

Steel Rising is decent but has some serious technical issues and optimisation problems.

Thymesia is a budget title and it shows. The animations are sloppy, the combat doesn't have much feeling of impact and it is very short. It has some interesting ideas but sadly the implementation of those ideas is lacking.

[soiberi1]

引用自 Chub-Zero：

Oh god no wonder you're such a spergy cringelord. You're a Dota main. Gross. And you keep calling me an incel yet the only game that you reviewed positively was one with a female protagonist and you're in a Japanese Dota 2 community group despite being in the US. Not only are you an incel that likes to project onto others, NOT ONLY are you super friggin' cringe, but you're also a weeb. Lol you hit the loneliness trifecta. I'm done talking to you. I don't want your lameness infecting me. Good day, cringelord.

Oh no, Incel plays gacha game and spending money on E-girl calling other "cringy" lord. Oh no, what should I do. The incel have spoken while living in his mom basement. Review possitive on good game- Nah, Only possitive on a trash game fit my japanese weeb trash bias- Chunk zero

"Also a weeb" said the person who look at Dota2 and called a weeb. This is classic of brain rotten NPC who cant looking past their own mirror outside of their bubble, same as biden voter. And this guy is 99% thinks dinosaur are real if their CNN told them so, just like the incentivize behavior to cash in to E girls.

Good lord, weeb projecting on others just like their harem anime along with the guy who spent 1k hours on From from Software trash games a JAPANESE COMPANY

[Aria Athena]

引用自 Tourette's Guy：

引用自 .VM8RA：

The surge 2 was cool as well TBH, probably the next best one, and then Code Vein.

I suppose it's a matter of taste but... I think The Surge 2 is somewhat better than this game. The combat feels smoother and it feels more polished and well rounded.

Lies of P is an AA indie videogame and you can notice that when you play it.

There was lack of fluidity when I played the demo. It felt like the controls were getting in your way.

Surge 2 has a faster pace, closer to Thymesia than what they are going for in Lies of P, and your character handles better. Have to wait for the full release though.

[MundM]

引用自 soiberi1：

引用自 MundM：

If you honestly believe any of these 3 games hold up to Elden Ring, then you are lying or delusional.
You probably are comparing current released games, with Dark Souls, lol, yeah, that's fair. Compare a newly made game where devs profit from experiencing souls games by Fromsoft for over a decade... Dark Souls 1 is better than Thymesia and Steelrising in terms of amount of content, lore, the music, the build variety and much more, and might only lack in bossfights, for there are only a few that still hold up in DS 1.
There is no point in playing Thymesia, when you could be playing Sekiro, unless you've already spend your time in Sekiro, but if you haven't played Sekiro and have to decide, you honestly would tell me you'd rather buy Thymesia?.

Found the software FANBOY X2. They think their TRASH ELDEIN RING IS BETTER THAN Lies of P LMFAO. Get off your fking high horse fanboy, your game is nothing but copy paste trash. Copy paste bosses, mobs and ♥♥♥♥, no wonder your brain is trash at your games .

Gonna cry? As expected from braindead software fanboy who spent 1k hours on nothing but ♥♥♥♥ game. Gonna try something in game with your maidenless r34? Gonna jerking it off?

Yes I finished all of software games and your trash has nothing on me except the NPC braindead who can't even recognize anything beyond their bubble. Stick to your mom basement

Who hurt you? Given that I mainly play souls like games, I feel I am perfectly capable of judging others games of the genre. I can imagine that someone who doesn't enjoy souls like games as much as I do, judges these 3rd party games differently, but I can tell you, these games don't hold up the comparison, and the lack of 4th wall content created about it, will be objective proof. I feel The Surge 1&2 are still top 3rd party games in the souls like genre, and far above most, but these 2 aren't close to as good over all in comparison to any single game Fromsoft has made, including DS2.

[JSage]

I would say DS 1 or 3 , Elden Ring, Sekiro, Bloodborne are all good options

[Something]

引用自 Rock hard：

I would say DS 1 or 3 , Elden Ring, Sekiro, Bloodborne are all good options

Dark Souls 2 is a good option too. I don't know why so many people have a hate boner for that game. Like do you have legitimate issues with it, or you just hate it because it's cool to hate it? I think aside from Adaptability and over-reliance on Knight-type enemies, Dark Souls 2 is a very fun game.

[Army of Optimists]

引用自 .VM8RA：

So you're doing fine without them?

I'm going off what I have been told by others, TBH mate. I haven't played very much of the game myself, and I didn't feel like it felt clunky or had stuff missing.

the info is from people who've put in lots of time and are considered to be "top" in the community (YT guys, etc)

Yep. I still don't use the dodge THAT much. Certain moves that I gave up on parrying due to camera wonkiness, I use the dodge. The double dodge isn't even required to get away from most things; the i-frames on a basic dodge are better than they were in the demo.

They also are at the beginning of the skill tree. The double-dodge is in the first node of upgrades and the ground dodge is in the second. Ground dodge is even less required because there are extremely few enemies that knock you flat and set up on you while you're down.

Making them required would be a bit annoying because some of the other early upgrades are things like additional heal uses on your "Estus Flask" or extra slots for amulets. I found those far more useful than the dodge upgrades.

[Dregora]

引用自 soiberi1：

引用自 Tourette's Guy：

I suppose it's a matter of taste but... I think The Surge 2 is somewhat better than this game. The combat feels smoother and it feels more polished and well rounded.

Lies of P is an AA indie videogame and you can notice that when you play it.

Surge 2 "combat smooth" . This is why you know fanboy when you see one

And 2nd is uninformed, Lies of P is not "indie" AA , even their studio are. Their product is AAA because it sold for 70$. This is AAA price, and saying Surge 2 is more polished than Lies of P definitely require a big mental gymnastic you have

That's not what makes a company an indie company you baboon. You do realize that Larian Studios is an indie company too by definition, right? You clearly think indie means they release it at a certain price point. That is not even close to what indie means. The price of it being sold does not decide whether or not something is indie. Please educate yourself on this.


Aside from that, I think I enjoyed The Surge 1 more. Surge 2 was good, but the combat felt too floaty. I know i'm in a minority ,but I love how weighty and heavy it felt in 1.

引用自 Chub-Zero：

引用自 Rock hard：

I would say DS 1 or 3 , Elden Ring, Sekiro, Bloodborne are all good options

Dark Souls 2 is a good option too. I don't know why so many people have a hate boner for that game. Like do you have legitimate issues with it, or you just hate it because it's cool to hate it? I think aside from Adaptability and over-reliance on Knight-type enemies, Dark Souls 2 is a very fun game.

Probably because it went for the quantity over quality in a lot of scenarios. Overreliance on sticking as many mobs in a certain area as they can, constant ambushes, aside from a few the bosses are pretty uninspiring and ''meh''.

The DLC is probably the best of Souls, though. I think the combat is good too aside from the odd hitboxes and as you said, adaptability.. felt like it was added for the sake of it being added.

Power stance was superb. Build variety too.


Dark Souls 2 excels in some things and the opposite in others. It barely has a middle ground lmao